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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4562#comment-12480</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I do mine entirely different. I won't go into what I do but let us just say it works well. I use a combination of tools and it is effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I do mine entirely different. I won&#8217;t go into what I do but let us just say it works well. I use a combination of tools and it is effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4562#comment-12467</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2005 05:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4562#comment-12467</guid>
		<description>Ok, well since you appear to be the only interested party here's what i've done. Note that you could possibly do this with other browsers, it's just that when i first started looking into this, firefox and mozilla hadn't been released yet.

Get Opera, and buy it. If you just download the free version you'll get it's own banner ads as well as everything else, which kind of defeats the purpose a little ;o). It does cost somewhere around US$40 or so, so maybe checking out whether your current browser has similar settings to what i'll mention below might save you some money.

In Opera, go to the Tools menu, select Preferences and Windows. Under Window Handling choose "prefer pages inside window" I'm pretty sure this stops pop-ups appearing in their own little window, ensuring they show up in the tabbed browsing bar in Opera. You can then right-click "close" any extra windows that start to appear if they get past everything else i mention here.

Also under Windows, Pop-ups select Block unwanted pop-ups. This option lets you click on things that will produce a pop-up like a thumbnail that then loads a larger image, but still blocks pop-ups you didn't actually click on. It also seems to work for pop-unders as well. I've never actually seen one of them so i'm not 100% certain ;o)

Still in Preferences go to Multimedia, change the Images option to "show cached images only". This will make websites a bit more boring without all the graphics, but banner ads are graphics too. It will also speed up browsing a fair bit when you don't have to wait for all the ads to load. Has much more impact if you're on dial up than cable tho. 

Also be aware that if you've been seeing the ads on websites and change this setting, you'll either need to wait for the cache to clear itself, or empty it manually yourself to get rid of them immediately. Some banner ads still do show up, but it's like 1% of normal which is still an improvement ;o)

Still in Multimedia, untick the "enable sounds in web pages" and "enable plugins" otions. Ok there are some websites out there that use these, but i've found a total of about 5 in over 13 yrs on the net, so i'm not really worried. 

If a website you really want to visit (or keep visiting) uses a plugin such as flash, you can "enable plugins" while you visit the site, then disable them again before going anywhere else. Just hope that the flash enabled website doesn't have any flash enabled ads as well ;o)

I'm pretty sure that's all there is to it. As i said see if you can do the same things with your current browser so you don't have to try exporting and importing all your bookmarks and email etc. Though i'm sure the options won't be called exactly the same things. Opera's actually changed the names of them all in the last few versions or so as well.

Hope this helps make the net less annoying for you. 

Oh yeah, i haven't solved the spam problem yet, so don't ask me about that one ;o) All i can suggest is never click on the unsubscribe links, unless you're in australia and you feel like trying to get the aussie govt to apply it's laws relating to opt-out options for spam to spammers in foreign countries ;o)  Of course most spam doesn't come from Oz so it's kinda pointless having these laws but i guess it lets them claim to "have done something about spam".

If this doesn't seem to work, let me know, there's other options i've set for my own preferences, especially regards cookies and stuff, one of them might also impact on the more intrusive ads too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, well since you appear to be the only interested party here&#8217;s what i&#8217;ve done. Note that you could possibly do this with other browsers, it&#8217;s just that when i first started looking into this, firefox and mozilla hadn&#8217;t been released yet.</p>
<p>Get Opera, and buy it. If you just download the free version you&#8217;ll get it&#8217;s own banner ads as well as everything else, which kind of defeats the purpose a little ;o). It does cost somewhere around US$40 or so, so maybe checking out whether your current browser has similar settings to what i&#8217;ll mention below might save you some money.</p>
<p>In Opera, go to the Tools menu, select Preferences and Windows. Under Window Handling choose &#8220;prefer pages inside window&#8221; I&#8217;m pretty sure this stops pop-ups appearing in their own little window, ensuring they show up in the tabbed browsing bar in Opera. You can then right-click &#8220;close&#8221; any extra windows that start to appear if they get past everything else i mention here.</p>
<p>Also under Windows, Pop-ups select Block unwanted pop-ups. This option lets you click on things that will produce a pop-up like a thumbnail that then loads a larger image, but still blocks pop-ups you didn&#8217;t actually click on. It also seems to work for pop-unders as well. I&#8217;ve never actually seen one of them so i&#8217;m not 100% certain ;o)</p>
<p>Still in Preferences go to Multimedia, change the Images option to &#8220;show cached images only&#8221;. This will make websites a bit more boring without all the graphics, but banner ads are graphics too. It will also speed up browsing a fair bit when you don&#8217;t have to wait for all the ads to load. Has much more impact if you&#8217;re on dial up than cable tho. </p>
<p>Also be aware that if you&#8217;ve been seeing the ads on websites and change this setting, you&#8217;ll either need to wait for the cache to clear itself, or empty it manually yourself to get rid of them immediately. Some banner ads still do show up, but it&#8217;s like 1% of normal which is still an improvement ;o)</p>
<p>Still in Multimedia, untick the &#8220;enable sounds in web pages&#8221; and &#8220;enable plugins&#8221; otions. Ok there are some websites out there that use these, but i&#8217;ve found a total of about 5 in over 13 yrs on the net, so i&#8217;m not really worried. </p>
<p>If a website you really want to visit (or keep visiting) uses a plugin such as flash, you can &#8220;enable plugins&#8221; while you visit the site, then disable them again before going anywhere else. Just hope that the flash enabled website doesn&#8217;t have any flash enabled ads as well ;o)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that&#8217;s all there is to it. As i said see if you can do the same things with your current browser so you don&#8217;t have to try exporting and importing all your bookmarks and email etc. Though i&#8217;m sure the options won&#8217;t be called exactly the same things. Opera&#8217;s actually changed the names of them all in the last few versions or so as well.</p>
<p>Hope this helps make the net less annoying for you. </p>
<p>Oh yeah, i haven&#8217;t solved the spam problem yet, so don&#8217;t ask me about that one ;o) All i can suggest is never click on the unsubscribe links, unless you&#8217;re in australia and you feel like trying to get the aussie govt to apply it&#8217;s laws relating to opt-out options for spam to spammers in foreign countries ;o)  Of course most spam doesn&#8217;t come from Oz so it&#8217;s kinda pointless having these laws but i guess it lets them claim to &#8220;have done something about spam&#8221;.</p>
<p>If this doesn&#8217;t seem to work, let me know, there&#8217;s other options i&#8217;ve set for my own preferences, especially regards cookies and stuff, one of them might also impact on the more intrusive ads too.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4562#comment-12448</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4562#comment-12448</guid>
		<description>I agree with Tony on this point.

"On another topic what's wrong with the idea of tshirts?"

Check out the second shirt down on this page. Hilarious and true.
http://negativland.com/nmol/negmisc.html
I sent them cash-money for that one. 

I'd buy a P2PNET.net shirt and wear it proudly.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Tony on this point.</p>
<p>&#8220;On another topic what&#8217;s wrong with the idea of tshirts?&#8221;</p>
<p>Check out the second shirt down on this page. Hilarious and true.<br />
<a href="http://negativland.com/nmol/negmisc.html" rel="nofollow">http://negativland.com/nmol/negmisc.html</a><br />
I sent them cash-money for that one. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d buy a P2PNET.net shirt and wear it proudly.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4562#comment-12432</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4562#comment-12432</guid>
		<description>Tony. Yes please let us know,I think everyone is sick and tired of the intusive ads,likely even the people who make them. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony. Yes please let us know,I think everyone is sick and tired of the intusive ads,likely even the people who make them. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4562#comment-12430</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4562#comment-12430</guid>
		<description>When I'm in Linux, I aways click an ad banner or two that are on your page.

1.  It makes you money.

2.  It takes money away from the advertiser.

I do not mind some advertisements, but it seams that all I see nowdays on the web are ads for product that are dodgy.  I always try to click on ads that feature credit cards or low cost mortgages.  I like to drain some of their money every now and then.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I&#8217;m in Linux, I aways click an ad banner or two that are on your page.</p>
<p>1.  It makes you money.</p>
<p>2.  It takes money away from the advertiser.</p>
<p>I do not mind some advertisements, but it seams that all I see nowdays on the web are ads for product that are dodgy.  I always try to click on ads that feature credit cards or low cost mortgages.  I like to drain some of their money every now and then.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4562#comment-12424</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4562#comment-12424</guid>
		<description>Jon, Shmoo here (Boycott-Riaa Admin)

Gonna "snag" some of this from ya and yak about it over at the Boycott-Riaa.com site.  Hope you don't mind.  (I have had somewhat similar thoughts/concerns on the "advertisement" issues since I took the helm over there a couple months ago.)

We are both generally the same side of the fence in the war vs the content cartels, but until I read this "word from the publisher," I didn't grok how closely our situations as "blog-meisters/site admins" (or whatever the heck we call ourselves) really were.

Shmoo, aka independentmusician (Mike Steely) of [url=http://shmoo.dmusic.com]Electric Gypsy[/url]
and [url=http://boycott-riaa.com]Boycott-Riaa[/url]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, Shmoo here (Boycott-Riaa Admin)</p>
<p>Gonna &#8220;snag&#8221; some of this from ya and yak about it over at the Boycott-Riaa.com site.  Hope you don&#8217;t mind.  (I have had somewhat similar thoughts/concerns on the &#8220;advertisement&#8221; issues since I took the helm over there a couple months ago.)</p>
<p>We are both generally the same side of the fence in the war vs the content cartels, but until I read this &#8220;word from the publisher,&#8221; I didn&#8217;t grok how closely our situations as &#8220;blog-meisters/site admins&#8221; (or whatever the heck we call ourselves) really were.</p>
<p>Shmoo, aka independentmusician (Mike Steely) of [url=http://shmoo.dmusic.com]Electric Gypsy[/url]<br />
and [url=http://boycott-riaa.com]Boycott-Riaa[/url]</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4562#comment-12420</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4562#comment-12420</guid>
		<description>Jon, put all the ads you want on this site, every format, every kind. As long as your site will still load if one or more of the adservers doesn't answer, i wouldn't care if there were 30 billion ads on this site.

Why not? Well i'm sorry to the net ad industry, but i just don't see ads. I realised about 6 years ago that in over 7 years of being "on the net" i'd clicked on a grand total of 3 ads. Out of those 3, i didn't take up any of the offers. They were a long time ago now, but i think the offers were nothing to do with what the ads implied they were, or were only open to americans anyway, or both.

So after deciding that net based ads were just wasting my  time and download allowance, i decided to see what i could do to stop them. Eventually i stumbled across a browser, and some settings in it that i could change that would eliminate practically ALL ads. Oh there's 1% or so that slip past the net, but i've taught myself to ignore them anyway.

If anyones interested in what browser i use (no it's not firefox!) and what i've done to it, reply to this or drop me a msg (if you can, I only registered to write this post still not sure how it all works) and i'll write an article on it if there's enough interest.

It's not as if the advertisers would lose any money if i spill the beans. The kind of ppl who don't want to see any ads at all aren't likely to ever buy anything because of ads anyway...

On another topic what's wrong with the idea of tshirts? I'd love to hang around the RIAA offices wearing a t-shirt with "p2p" written on it! I'd buy their staff one each for xmas every year and have them delivered to their offices. I'd send them all cards on a particular date each year celebrating "p2p day". But then, i'm just evil that way ;o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, put all the ads you want on this site, every format, every kind. As long as your site will still load if one or more of the adservers doesn&#8217;t answer, i wouldn&#8217;t care if there were 30 billion ads on this site.</p>
<p>Why not? Well i&#8217;m sorry to the net ad industry, but i just don&#8217;t see ads. I realised about 6 years ago that in over 7 years of being &#8220;on the net&#8221; i&#8217;d clicked on a grand total of 3 ads. Out of those 3, i didn&#8217;t take up any of the offers. They were a long time ago now, but i think the offers were nothing to do with what the ads implied they were, or were only open to americans anyway, or both.</p>
<p>So after deciding that net based ads were just wasting my  time and download allowance, i decided to see what i could do to stop them. Eventually i stumbled across a browser, and some settings in it that i could change that would eliminate practically ALL ads. Oh there&#8217;s 1% or so that slip past the net, but i&#8217;ve taught myself to ignore them anyway.</p>
<p>If anyones interested in what browser i use (no it&#8217;s not firefox!) and what i&#8217;ve done to it, reply to this or drop me a msg (if you can, I only registered to write this post still not sure how it all works) and i&#8217;ll write an article on it if there&#8217;s enough interest.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not as if the advertisers would lose any money if i spill the beans. The kind of ppl who don&#8217;t want to see any ads at all aren&#8217;t likely to ever buy anything because of ads anyway&#8230;</p>
<p>On another topic what&#8217;s wrong with the idea of tshirts? I&#8217;d love to hang around the RIAA offices wearing a t-shirt with &#8220;p2p&#8221; written on it! I&#8217;d buy their staff one each for xmas every year and have them delivered to their offices. I&#8217;d send them all cards on a particular date each year celebrating &#8220;p2p day&#8221;. But then, i&#8217;m just evil that way ;o)</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4562#comment-12406</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2005 02:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4562#comment-12406</guid>
		<description>Hey folks: I didn't mean to imply p2pnet is going down the tubes. 

It isn't. As one door closes, another opens and as we speak, I'm trying to think of other ways to bring a few dollars in. (And please don't suggest donations or t-shirts. heh) This post was as much to explain what's happening (or, rather, what isn't happening) with Adsense. 

I dislike advertising as much as anyone. But having said that, I'll repeat - this site wouldn't be around without the support of the p2p app companies who I think rent space more to help us stay online than because they get tons of customer referrals.

And on Loband - go for it, if it suits you better. You'll still be reading p2pnet content which is, after all, what it's all about. And you'll still see the text part of the ads. On that, be sure advertisers will quickly adapt to text presentations if and when Loband-type sites catch on. 

As for Adsense and other similar companies, "they really should change the look of them periodically to overcome the desensitization that occurs," as TT points out.

Anyhow - onwards and upwards, as well as sideways and backwards : )

Cheers! And all the best to everyone ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey folks: I didn&#8217;t mean to imply p2pnet is going down the tubes. </p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. As one door closes, another opens and as we speak, I&#8217;m trying to think of other ways to bring a few dollars in. (And please don&#8217;t suggest donations or t-shirts. heh) This post was as much to explain what&#8217;s happening (or, rather, what isn&#8217;t happening) with Adsense. </p>
<p>I dislike advertising as much as anyone. But having said that, I&#8217;ll repeat - this site wouldn&#8217;t be around without the support of the p2p app companies who I think rent space more to help us stay online than because they get tons of customer referrals.</p>
<p>And on Loband - go for it, if it suits you better. You&#8217;ll still be reading p2pnet content which is, after all, what it&#8217;s all about. And you&#8217;ll still see the text part of the ads. On that, be sure advertisers will quickly adapt to text presentations if and when Loband-type sites catch on. </p>
<p>As for Adsense and other similar companies, &#8220;they really should change the look of them periodically to overcome the desensitization that occurs,&#8221; as TT points out.</p>
<p>Anyhow - onwards and upwards, as well as sideways and backwards : )</p>
<p>Cheers! And all the best to everyone &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4562#comment-12402</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2005 02:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4562#comment-12402</guid>
		<description>It's sort of a deal with the devil isn't it? With the ads come those things none of us want. Such as those you have regularly tried to remove from the choices. These ad companies are well aware of the feelings that web hosts have about some of them and with good reason. When they get sneaky and underhanded and reinstall themselves, you know they are up to no good. Many have spyware that remains, even when the ad itself is removed from a webhost and have known a few that had to threaten legal action in order to get it removed, even though the ads were terminated. 

Personally, I hate ads. I hate spyware. I do everything in my power to remove their presence from my sight. Nor will I encourage such behavior by purchasing their products if a choice remains. We, the public are bombarded with these intrusive items into our realm by tv, radio, newspaper, billboards, and the net at all times. To the point that it extremely distracting, to say the least. 

You run on a  shoestring budget as do many others. Something the ad companies are also well aware of and take advantage of. I commend you for your diligence and presentation and understand that without such support you could not remain a presence on the net. I would also at the time say that you are making a difference as many places link back to you when presenting articles of the nature that you run. Indeed it is how I found you. Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sort of a deal with the devil isn&#8217;t it? With the ads come those things none of us want. Such as those you have regularly tried to remove from the choices. These ad companies are well aware of the feelings that web hosts have about some of them and with good reason. When they get sneaky and underhanded and reinstall themselves, you know they are up to no good. Many have spyware that remains, even when the ad itself is removed from a webhost and have known a few that had to threaten legal action in order to get it removed, even though the ads were terminated. </p>
<p>Personally, I hate ads. I hate spyware. I do everything in my power to remove their presence from my sight. Nor will I encourage such behavior by purchasing their products if a choice remains. We, the public are bombarded with these intrusive items into our realm by tv, radio, newspaper, billboards, and the net at all times. To the point that it extremely distracting, to say the least. </p>
<p>You run on a  shoestring budget as do many others. Something the ad companies are also well aware of and take advantage of. I commend you for your diligence and presentation and understand that without such support you could not remain a presence on the net. I would also at the time say that you are making a difference as many places link back to you when presenting articles of the nature that you run. Indeed it is how I found you. Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4562#comment-12401</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2005 01:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4562#comment-12401</guid>
		<description>well I changed my mind. I will register later tonight but I will email Jon instead. Guys, lets keep this site well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well I changed my mind. I will register later tonight but I will email Jon instead. Guys, lets keep this site well.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4562#comment-12400</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2005 01:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4562#comment-12400</guid>
		<description>No worries Jon, I appreciate all you've done as do most others, I kind of tuned out google adwords a long time ago on every site that uses them, they really should change the look of them periodically to overcome the desensitization that occurs (but I digress) - keep up the good fight, unspin the spin and good work!

TT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries Jon, I appreciate all you&#8217;ve done as do most others, I kind of tuned out google adwords a long time ago on every site that uses them, they really should change the look of them periodically to overcome the desensitization that occurs (but I digress) - keep up the good fight, unspin the spin and good work!</p>
<p>TT</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4562#comment-12399</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2005 01:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4562#comment-12399</guid>
		<description>I love p2p.net. I don't want to harm the service so I will remove my loband link that you gave me as my home on my Firefox browser and I will add it to my Internet Explorer browser. Before this, firefox was on p2p.net as a home then after loband came out (pointed out by you) I added it as home. I have now changed my old ie home (it was http:// ) then the rest nothing (nothing was allowed to track strait from clicking on ie since nothing would show)

I want to help out p2p.net as much as possible. I love this site. I would love to talk to the site owner to see what (if anything) I can do to help. I will register and post my id next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love p2p.net. I don&#8217;t want to harm the service so I will remove my loband link that you gave me as my home on my Firefox browser and I will add it to my Internet Explorer browser. Before this, firefox was on p2p.net as a home then after loband came out (pointed out by you) I added it as home. I have now changed my old ie home (it was <a href="http://" rel="nofollow">http://</a> ) then the rest nothing (nothing was allowed to track strait from clicking on ie since nothing would show)</p>
<p>I want to help out p2p.net as much as possible. I love this site. I would love to talk to the site owner to see what (if anything) I can do to help. I will register and post my id next.</p>
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