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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4585/comment-page-1#comment-12547</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can get punished for selling Oregano if you pretend it&#039;s weed ...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can get punished for selling Oregano if you pretend it&#8217;s weed &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4585/comment-page-1#comment-12543</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rossi doesn&#039;t have to be an &quot;nice guy&quot; or to have been running a &quot;good&quot; business. He&#039;s still entitled to justice, just like everyone else is supposed to.

Perhaps some people are looking over the fact that he wasn&#039;t doing what the MPAA said he was, yet he still got hammered. The movie he was supposed to be making available didn&#039;t even exsist yet, but the multi-billion dollar industry was still able to sue him into the ground. Were the judges deaf? Drunk? Mentally retarded?

Like a previous poster said, Rossi is challenging a law, which by it&#039;s very nature, should be un-constitutional. It&#039;s not about his reputation, it&#039;s a principal that&#039;s being fought for, and a right that Amaricans are entitled to enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rossi doesn&#8217;t have to be an &#8220;nice guy&#8221; or to have been running a &#8220;good&#8221; business. He&#8217;s still entitled to justice, just like everyone else is supposed to.</p>
<p>Perhaps some people are looking over the fact that he wasn&#8217;t doing what the MPAA said he was, yet he still got hammered. The movie he was supposed to be making available didn&#8217;t even exsist yet, but the multi-billion dollar industry was still able to sue him into the ground. Were the judges deaf? Drunk? Mentally retarded?</p>
<p>Like a previous poster said, Rossi is challenging a law, which by it&#8217;s very nature, should be un-constitutional. It&#8217;s not about his reputation, it&#8217;s a principal that&#8217;s being fought for, and a right that Amaricans are entitled to enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4585/comment-page-1#comment-12540</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>License to Gill 

The entertainment media&#039;s practices are not unlike the controversial gill nets used by fisherman - the huge dragnets which often cause widespread injury and death to a great many animals which are not the actual target of the nets, often causing  immense environmental destruction for the small benefit of catching a few fish.

Similarly, the MPAA&#039;s scorched-earth campaign that ensnares a lot of innocent people is simply brushed off as the necessary evil of enforcing copyright, a type of  &#039;collateral damage&#039; - a common offensive euphemism mouthed by military leaders when they recklessly slaughter huge numbers of civilians in their pursuit of a small military target.

immunity and impunity

The DMCA specifically gives copyright holders blanket immunity from any and all damages caused by their own recklessness or negligence, no matter how extreme or blatant. This flies in the face of every principle of personal responsibility and common law. 

For a drunk driver to have a &quot;good faith belief&quot; that his driving ability was not impaired after downing a sixpack, and another &quot;good faith belief&quot; that the traffic light was green when plowing through a busy intersection - a rather rational argument, indeed - does not absolve him of responsibility for his own reckless actions.

Yet this is exactly the same sort of situation in which the record and movie industries are able to execute with impunity - after all, they practically wrote their own loopholes into the DMCA law, giving themselves blanket immunity.

-tm
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>License to Gill </p>
<p>The entertainment media&#8217;s practices are not unlike the controversial gill nets used by fisherman &#8211; the huge dragnets which often cause widespread injury and death to a great many animals which are not the actual target of the nets, often causing  immense environmental destruction for the small benefit of catching a few fish.</p>
<p>Similarly, the MPAA&#8217;s scorched-earth campaign that ensnares a lot of innocent people is simply brushed off as the necessary evil of enforcing copyright, a type of  &#8216;collateral damage&#8217; &#8211; a common offensive euphemism mouthed by military leaders when they recklessly slaughter huge numbers of civilians in their pursuit of a small military target.</p>
<p>immunity and impunity</p>
<p>The DMCA specifically gives copyright holders blanket immunity from any and all damages caused by their own recklessness or negligence, no matter how extreme or blatant. This flies in the face of every principle of personal responsibility and common law. </p>
<p>For a drunk driver to have a &#8220;good faith belief&#8221; that his driving ability was not impaired after downing a sixpack, and another &#8220;good faith belief&#8221; that the traffic light was green when plowing through a busy intersection &#8211; a rather rational argument, indeed &#8211; does not absolve him of responsibility for his own reckless actions.</p>
<p>Yet this is exactly the same sort of situation in which the record and movie industries are able to execute with impunity &#8211; after all, they practically wrote their own loopholes into the DMCA law, giving themselves blanket immunity.</p>
<p>-tm</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4585/comment-page-1#comment-12539</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeh !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeh !!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4585/comment-page-1#comment-12537</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He may be a scam artist, he may not.  that&#039;s not the point.  the point is that someone is challanging the DMCA and there is an oprotunity to further define it or have the supremes Nullify certin parts.  That is something we should all embrace reguardless who is doing it.

Rick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He may be a scam artist, he may not.  that&#8217;s not the point.  the point is that someone is challanging the DMCA and there is an oprotunity to further define it or have the supremes Nullify certin parts.  That is something we should all embrace reguardless who is doing it.</p>
<p>Rick</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4585/comment-page-1#comment-12534</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 06:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>way to go Rossi, take it to them, stand up where everyone else has crumbled or been settled out...

TT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>way to go Rossi, take it to them, stand up where everyone else has crumbled or been settled out&#8230;</p>
<p>TT</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4585/comment-page-1#comment-12527</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 05:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact I&#039;d argue that this whole SCOTUS filing is just another part of Rossi&#039;s scam. Go to his site and he&#039;ll tell you how you can fight the evil copyright cartel: By becoming a paying member of his scam website. Today P2Pnet, Zeropaid and Slyck gave him a whole lot of free advertising ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact I&#8217;d argue that this whole SCOTUS filing is just another part of Rossi&#8217;s scam. Go to his site and he&#8217;ll tell you how you can fight the evil copyright cartel: By becoming a paying member of his scam website. Today P2Pnet, Zeropaid and Slyck gave him a whole lot of free advertising &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4585/comment-page-1#comment-12526</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 05:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rossi is just a scammer who gets way more press than he deserves. His site promised things like &quot;Join to download full length movies online now! new movies every month. NOW DOWNLOADABLE ONLINE!&quot; ... and he even made it look like you could download a long list of specific titles from his website.

He charged people six bucks per month for becoming a member - only to show them basically worthless stuff about how they could get movies on P2P networks in the member section. The articles themselves - called &quot;special reports&quot; are much worse that what you would get on countless free P2P websites - e.g. they recommend using Earthstation 5. :) 

This is completely the same thing as Kazaagold and all those other scammer sites. The only difference: Rossi apparently fooled the wrong guys. Even the MPAA thought he&#039;d sell movie downloads. They sued him out of existence. Big deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rossi is just a scammer who gets way more press than he deserves. His site promised things like &#8220;Join to download full length movies online now! new movies every month. NOW DOWNLOADABLE ONLINE!&#8221; &#8230; and he even made it look like you could download a long list of specific titles from his website.</p>
<p>He charged people six bucks per month for becoming a member &#8211; only to show them basically worthless stuff about how they could get movies on P2P networks in the member section. The articles themselves &#8211; called &#8220;special reports&#8221; are much worse that what you would get on countless free P2P websites &#8211; e.g. they recommend using Earthstation 5. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>This is completely the same thing as Kazaagold and all those other scammer sites. The only difference: Rossi apparently fooled the wrong guys. Even the MPAA thought he&#8217;d sell movie downloads. They sued him out of existence. Big deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4585/comment-page-1#comment-12522</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 04:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is part of my problem with  DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act ). Against all legal precedent the law assumes that anyone accused of violating such is automatically guilty until proven innocent. When one does attempt to prove he is innocent he runs into such as Mr. Rossi has. A no appeal, no listen, approach to his claims. With this sort of law unchecked, any competion, any site, can be shut down simply by claim with no proof required other than &quot;we have reason to suspect&quot;. 

Worse if the operator of such a site refuses, opting to fight such a claim, then the ISP is held also responcible even though the ISP had nothing to do with it. So either way the site is such down, even without probable cause to be necessary to be proven. Just such a scenerio could shut this site down merely by the claim of &quot;we suspect&quot;. All of us here know that there isn&#039;t an infringing file to be found here. Bots don&#039;t distinglish, this is part of the problem. By mentioning a copyrighted name in commentary, even though legal for the purposes of discourse you could be set up as a host for an infringement and the invoking of the DMCA. While you are innocent of such charges the legal battle will break most cases into submission by the simply outspending beyond the capabilities of most citizens. 

So where does this leave average Joe when it comes to being upheld by the law? Out in the cold is where it leaves him...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is part of my problem with  DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act ). Against all legal precedent the law assumes that anyone accused of violating such is automatically guilty until proven innocent. When one does attempt to prove he is innocent he runs into such as Mr. Rossi has. A no appeal, no listen, approach to his claims. With this sort of law unchecked, any competion, any site, can be shut down simply by claim with no proof required other than &#8220;we have reason to suspect&#8221;. </p>
<p>Worse if the operator of such a site refuses, opting to fight such a claim, then the ISP is held also responcible even though the ISP had nothing to do with it. So either way the site is such down, even without probable cause to be necessary to be proven. Just such a scenerio could shut this site down merely by the claim of &#8220;we suspect&#8221;. All of us here know that there isn&#8217;t an infringing file to be found here. Bots don&#8217;t distinglish, this is part of the problem. By mentioning a copyrighted name in commentary, even though legal for the purposes of discourse you could be set up as a host for an infringement and the invoking of the DMCA. While you are innocent of such charges the legal battle will break most cases into submission by the simply outspending beyond the capabilities of most citizens. </p>
<p>So where does this leave average Joe when it comes to being upheld by the law? Out in the cold is where it leaves him&#8230;</p>
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