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	<title>Comments on: Xbox modders to be charged</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5126#comment-14907</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2005 01:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that this is not exactly on topic, but it demostrates the arrogance of government authorities in the P.S.A.  The government in the area where this occured is widely believed to be in leageu with developers trying to push out local people.  While This is not necessarily about music, it is about the powerful cartels trying to take what belongs to the people.

This is how business is conducted by the Panama City Florida City commission.  It is done by threatening elderly people with a 9mm pistol.
Here are some actual soundbites from the May 25,2005 City Commission Meeting.

Mayor DeGeorge nominating her choice for the airport board followed by silence and laughing.

http://www.theattackmachine.com/laughing.mp3

Commissioner Hanline giving her reason for wanting Mayor Clemmons on the airport board.

http://www.theattackmachine.com/Commonsense.mp3

The vote followed by booing and then a ridiculous exchange by Hanline and Commissioner Pilcher, implying the booos were for DeGeorge and not them. Followed by audience explaining the boos were not for DeGeorge.

http://www.theattackmachine.com/respect.mp3

First, Pilcher explains how things are done.   Then he explains how the decorum will be kept in the Commission.

http://www.theattackmachine.com/Pilcher-goodolboys.mp3

The next link is where the threat actually takes place.  This is the typical attitude that is predominate with the Panama City and Bay county government in Florida.
http://www.theattackmachine.com/PilcherGun.mp3

This is just one example of an arrogant government gone awry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that this is not exactly on topic, but it demostrates the arrogance of government authorities in the P.S.A.  The government in the area where this occured is widely believed to be in leageu with developers trying to push out local people.  While This is not necessarily about music, it is about the powerful cartels trying to take what belongs to the people.</p>
<p>This is how business is conducted by the Panama City Florida City commission.  It is done by threatening elderly people with a 9mm pistol.<br />
Here are some actual soundbites from the May 25,2005 City Commission Meeting.</p>
<p>Mayor DeGeorge nominating her choice for the airport board followed by silence and laughing.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theattackmachine.com/laughing.mp3" rel="nofollow">http://www.theattackmachine.com/laughing.mp3</a></p>
<p>Commissioner Hanline giving her reason for wanting Mayor Clemmons on the airport board.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theattackmachine.com/Commonsense.mp3" rel="nofollow">http://www.theattackmachine.com/Commonsense.mp3</a></p>
<p>The vote followed by booing and then a ridiculous exchange by Hanline and Commissioner Pilcher, implying the booos were for DeGeorge and not them. Followed by audience explaining the boos were not for DeGeorge.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theattackmachine.com/respect.mp3" rel="nofollow">http://www.theattackmachine.com/respect.mp3</a></p>
<p>First, Pilcher explains how things are done.   Then he explains how the decorum will be kept in the Commission.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theattackmachine.com/Pilcher-goodolboys.mp3" rel="nofollow">http://www.theattackmachine.com/Pilcher-goodolboys.mp3</a></p>
<p>The next link is where the threat actually takes place.  This is the typical attitude that is predominate with the Panama City and Bay county government in Florida.<br />
<a href="http://www.theattackmachine.com/PilcherGun.mp3" rel="nofollow">http://www.theattackmachine.com/PilcherGun.mp3</a></p>
<p>This is just one example of an arrogant government gone awry.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5126#comment-14868</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2005 14:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5126#comment-14868</guid>
		<description>The DMCA has created a whole new class of criminals: people who improve a product using aftermarket upgrades. 

It's been a tradition since the days of the Model T that car enthusiasts would modify their vehicles for better performance. In fact, most of the components in a modern automobile, from disk brakes to shock absorbers to radios, originated not from the Ford or GM factories, but from the consumer aftermarket.

But no one ever went to jail for selling a device that might make a car fail federal pollution standards or bumper height requirements or exhaust noise levels, or any of the many laws regulating cars. 

I have to wonder how much the technological evolution of the automobile in the last hundred years would have been hampered if there were as many lawyers a century ago as there are today? Perhaps instead of "owning" your car outright, you would instead be forcefully bound to a "end user license agreement" that would not even let you upgrade the sterio without buying the official licensed one from the manufacturer - and a 'car audio' police to enforce it.

With more and more laws being passed that serve only to benefit the elite special interests, it's no wonder that the USA now has the world's biggest prison population. And a prison system increasingly run by corporations, with a growing class of prisoners who simply refused to bend to the will of corporate interests and their bought politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DMCA has created a whole new class of criminals: people who improve a product using aftermarket upgrades. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s been a tradition since the days of the Model T that car enthusiasts would modify their vehicles for better performance. In fact, most of the components in a modern automobile, from disk brakes to shock absorbers to radios, originated not from the Ford or GM factories, but from the consumer aftermarket.</p>
<p>But no one ever went to jail for selling a device that might make a car fail federal pollution standards or bumper height requirements or exhaust noise levels, or any of the many laws regulating cars. </p>
<p>I have to wonder how much the technological evolution of the automobile in the last hundred years would have been hampered if there were as many lawyers a century ago as there are today? Perhaps instead of &#8220;owning&#8221; your car outright, you would instead be forcefully bound to a &#8220;end user license agreement&#8221; that would not even let you upgrade the sterio without buying the official licensed one from the manufacturer - and a &#8216;car audio&#8217; police to enforce it.</p>
<p>With more and more laws being passed that serve only to benefit the elite special interests, it&#8217;s no wonder that the USA now has the world&#8217;s biggest prison population. And a prison system increasingly run by corporations, with a growing class of prisoners who simply refused to bend to the will of corporate interests and their bought politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5126#comment-14846</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2005 05:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5126#comment-14846</guid>
		<description>Ok now how many of us have those modded consoles? Is it illigal to posess one? I think that the modded consoles are way better than the origionals. Think of it like this. I buy a pc and then decide to put some other add ons to it. How is this wrong? The only problem I really see here is that they sold the "xbox and games at substantial discounts". Its kind of like buying a computer and filling it with pirated software then selling it with it on it. 

But then again, did the sellers advertise "modded console full of pirated games or even modified console with lots of games cheaper than the new ones in retail?

Those modded consoles can also have emulators that play other games. The one that I have in my living room plays nintendo, snes, sega cd, sega genesis, has lots of xbox games on the disk with the other games, and even has room for tv shows. Now if that is not pretty efficient, what is? Just to buy the Xbox to play the games and have to change them and whatnot is kind of a waste isn't it? Maybe MicroShaft needs to sell the consoles already modded with the other capabilities intact? Then again, not always the best model wins as we have seen on many occasions. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok now how many of us have those modded consoles? Is it illigal to posess one? I think that the modded consoles are way better than the origionals. Think of it like this. I buy a pc and then decide to put some other add ons to it. How is this wrong? The only problem I really see here is that they sold the &#8220;xbox and games at substantial discounts&#8221;. Its kind of like buying a computer and filling it with pirated software then selling it with it on it. </p>
<p>But then again, did the sellers advertise &#8220;modded console full of pirated games or even modified console with lots of games cheaper than the new ones in retail?</p>
<p>Those modded consoles can also have emulators that play other games. The one that I have in my living room plays nintendo, snes, sega cd, sega genesis, has lots of xbox games on the disk with the other games, and even has room for tv shows. Now if that is not pretty efficient, what is? Just to buy the Xbox to play the games and have to change them and whatnot is kind of a waste isn&#8217;t it? Maybe MicroShaft needs to sell the consoles already modded with the other capabilities intact? Then again, not always the best model wins as we have seen on many occasions.</p>
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