Dutch ISPs defy BREIN
p2pnet.net News:- UPC (UGC), Wanadoo (France Telecom) Tiscali, KPN and Essent Kabelcom have effectively told the entertainment cartels’ Dutch mouthpiece to get stuffed.
BREIN was demanding that the five ISPs hand over confidential client information, as Rik Lambers points out.
But the ISPs refused, saying that caving in to the demands would be a breach of privacy.
“Brein says it has managed to track down a number of surfers who club together to download large quantities of music and films on the internet,” says Agence Presse France, going on:
“However, it has only managed to identify their address – IP – which is linked to the computer of one of the subscribers.”
It also says, “Nine of the pirates who have been identified reached an amicable agreement with Brein, paying a 2,100-euro fine, the Dutch news agency ANP said.”
Now BREIN wants Holland’s judicial authorities to force the five to provide their customers’ IDs.
A date hasn’t yet been set for the hearing.
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See:-
points out – Warner blackmails Dutch ISPs, p2pnet, June 17, 2005
Agence Presse France – Dutch watchdog seeks court action to track down internet pirates, June 16, 2005





June 17th, 2005 at 3:50 pm
A local apartment building community which has some people’s computers networked together has linked together with a similar community over the Internet. This link is over a broadband encrypted connection and is used to trade files between the two networks. Now, a movie on one network is shared with the other. Internet monitoring is now going to become much, much more difficult
June 17th, 2005 at 7:28 pm
More and more as the content industries work to destory public access to unfavorable and out of reason copyright lengths, people will find a way around such. Coming soon is the decision as a result of the RIAA bringing a case to the Supreme Court in the US.
The main thing they are now bitching about is that the courts have ruled previously on where responcibility lies. Since they didn’t get their cake and get to eat it too, they are raising up a legal storm over it. The very thing they are bitching about is a result of their previous legal actions. They are now complaining about that result. No one can blame anyone but the organizations that are locking up the content for that.
The courts ruled in the past what was legal and what was not legal. Further p2p developments abided by that and developed software that was not illegal, which satisfied the courts previous rulings. Now the content corporations want the rulings changed yet again. Do they not see when those are changed that yet another change will appear with p2p to satisfy that ruling also? Duh.
My compliments to the local solutions that allow users to mask within a larger IP framework. It is just such that I speak of when I make mention that other means will develop to solve or make more difficult this steady pursuit of the average citizen that isn’t taking or making money on anything.
June 17th, 2005 at 11:28 pm
“âBrein says it has managed to track down a number of surfers who club together to download large quantities of music and films on the internet,â says Agence Presse France, going on:
âHowever, it has only managed to identify their address – IP – which is linked to the computer of one of the subscribers.â
How do they know these people club together if they can only identify them buy their IP address. Something’s not right here.