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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5386/comment-page-1#comment-16099</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When corporations buy useless, low quality or overpriced products, my firsts suspect is kickbacks to someone in the firm.

There is so much money made by the cartels that a few mispent millions will not be noticed. If in the end an explanation has to be given to the shareholders, that is no problem, since in addition to being greedy and vulnerable suckers, the shareholders are ignorant of the businesses they own as shareholders. 

As long as businesses are run by unprincipled and ignorant executives and are owned by suckers, all sorts of useless DRM technologies will be paid for, finally by the customer.

The rules is simple:
1. Computers only follow programmed instructions. These instructions (DMR) can always be changed or cancelled by other instructions.
2. As a last resort, any electrical signal that is sent to a speaker or a television cannot be encrypted, so it can be captured and copied. 

Rafael Venegas
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When corporations buy useless, low quality or overpriced products, my firsts suspect is kickbacks to someone in the firm.</p>
<p>There is so much money made by the cartels that a few mispent millions will not be noticed. If in the end an explanation has to be given to the shareholders, that is no problem, since in addition to being greedy and vulnerable suckers, the shareholders are ignorant of the businesses they own as shareholders. </p>
<p>As long as businesses are run by unprincipled and ignorant executives and are owned by suckers, all sorts of useless DRM technologies will be paid for, finally by the customer.</p>
<p>The rules is simple:<br />
1. Computers only follow programmed instructions. These instructions (DMR) can always be changed or cancelled by other instructions.<br />
2. As a last resort, any electrical signal that is sent to a speaker or a television cannot be encrypted, so it can be captured and copied. </p>
<p>Rafael Venegas<br />
<a href="http://www.gvenegas.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.gvenegas.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5386/comment-page-1#comment-16094</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2005 14:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try (as an example) to get a dvd of 1968 &quot;charge of the light brigade&quot;,
Made in britain with British actors, in Britain. You have to get a region 1 from the US. Then buy a region 1 dvd player to watch it. My point: Illegally convert it to region 2, Breaking all these pathetic rules, or, if you live in Bitain, dont get it. Its a British film fer gods sake...
Where do the big businesses lose out if you cant buy it here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try (as an example) to get a dvd of 1968 &#8220;charge of the light brigade&#8221;,<br />
Made in britain with British actors, in Britain. You have to get a region 1 from the US. Then buy a region 1 dvd player to watch it. My point: Illegally convert it to region 2, Breaking all these pathetic rules, or, if you live in Bitain, dont get it. Its a British film fer gods sake&#8230;<br />
Where do the big businesses lose out if you cant buy it here?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5386/comment-page-1#comment-15998</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you should learn how to crack the cd drm. apparently someone has because you downloaded it. so it can&#039;t be to difficult to find out and do it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you should learn how to crack the cd drm. apparently someone has because you downloaded it. so it can&#8217;t be to difficult to find out and do it. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5386/comment-page-1#comment-15984</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>before cd&#039;s were introduced in australia, there was this guy on a tv show talking about how tough cd&#039;s were and how there wouldn&#039;t be any problems with cd&#039;s breaking unlike records.

at one point he even stood on one and showed how it hadn&#039;t even cracked. 

Can you buy these indestructable cd&#039;s? of course not, fragile storage mediums are great for repeat business as far as the music industry is concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>before cd&#8217;s were introduced in australia, there was this guy on a tv show talking about how tough cd&#8217;s were and how there wouldn&#8217;t be any problems with cd&#8217;s breaking unlike records.</p>
<p>at one point he even stood on one and showed how it hadn&#8217;t even cracked. </p>
<p>Can you buy these indestructable cd&#8217;s? of course not, fragile storage mediums are great for repeat business as far as the music industry is concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5386/comment-page-1#comment-15981</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is why i barely buy anything anymore
the last cd i bought was the new System of a down cd; mezmerize, and i can only listen to it in my cd player, i had to download it off BT to get it on my pc, and the only reason i baught the cd was beacuse their my favorite band and i feel compelled to support them (even if little to none of my purchase price actualy goes to the band)

so go ahead u DRM assholes, keep diggin urselvs deeper into the hole and il keep laughing :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is why i barely buy anything anymore<br />
the last cd i bought was the new System of a down cd; mezmerize, and i can only listen to it in my cd player, i had to download it off BT to get it on my pc, and the only reason i baught the cd was beacuse their my favorite band and i feel compelled to support them (even if little to none of my purchase price actualy goes to the band)</p>
<p>so go ahead u DRM assholes, keep diggin urselvs deeper into the hole and il keep laughing <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5386/comment-page-1#comment-15933</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention at a reasonable price. 

When DVD&#039;s came out the price of movies should have gone down as they could now make 1000&#039;s (or more) a second as opposed to transfering to tapes, so there would have been lots of savings. Did the customer see any of this, nope they raised the price (your getting a better product so pay more). I agree a better product is good, but since then the price has barley gone down (if it has at all). The Catels see any attempt to move the prices down as a loss (probably counted in the piracy figurs of course), instead of seeing it as a market drive to lower the prices. A free market place is not free if those controlling the product are working together to keep the prices high as opposed to competing for customers (not consumers... customers). 
As for the loss of jobs... try cutting pay/bonuses to those at the top to pay those at the bottom instead of cutting those at the bottom to pay those at the top....wait a minute it those at the top that get to make that decision... So I guess you&#039;ll just keep killing yourselves off, eh.
And yes, you would expect there would be some loss of jobs in the distribution side... it&#039;s happening in a lot of industries. (another savings that did not get passed on to the consumer, instead when the packaging and distribution costs was removed from the product (ie. mp3) and the quality went down (dvd to mp3) the price went up). 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention at a reasonable price. </p>
<p>When DVD&#8217;s came out the price of movies should have gone down as they could now make 1000&#8217;s (or more) a second as opposed to transfering to tapes, so there would have been lots of savings. Did the customer see any of this, nope they raised the price (your getting a better product so pay more). I agree a better product is good, but since then the price has barley gone down (if it has at all). The Catels see any attempt to move the prices down as a loss (probably counted in the piracy figurs of course), instead of seeing it as a market drive to lower the prices. A free market place is not free if those controlling the product are working together to keep the prices high as opposed to competing for customers (not consumers&#8230; customers).<br />
As for the loss of jobs&#8230; try cutting pay/bonuses to those at the top to pay those at the bottom instead of cutting those at the bottom to pay those at the top&#8230;.wait a minute it those at the top that get to make that decision&#8230; So I guess you&#8217;ll just keep killing yourselves off, eh.<br />
And yes, you would expect there would be some loss of jobs in the distribution side&#8230; it&#8217;s happening in a lot of industries. (another savings that did not get passed on to the consumer, instead when the packaging and distribution costs was removed from the product (ie. mp3) and the quality went down (dvd to mp3) the price went up).</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5386/comment-page-1#comment-15930</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll stop copying my DVDâs when the cartels give me a truly indestructible storage method... maybe I&#039;m a little cynical about the indestructibility of any media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll stop copying my DVDâs when the cartels give me a truly indestructible storage method&#8230; maybe I&#8217;m a little cynical about the indestructibility of any media.</p>
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