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	<title>Comments on: Is LimeWire closing down?</title>
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		<title>By: haZ</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-347740</link>
		<author>haZ</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-347740</guid>
		<description>hmm wait a min, this was originally posted 3 years ago, and i just started using limewire 3 months ago, i guess that answers if its being shut down</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm wait a min, this was originally posted 3 years ago, and i just started using limewire 3 months ago, i guess that answers if its being shut down</p>
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		<title>By: haZ</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-347734</link>
		<author>haZ</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-347734</guid>
		<description>if theres no money going into the music industry then less and less music will be created, eventually people will work out theres no point in paying for cds and the music industry will die out..... but hey! thats not gona stop me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if theres no money going into the music industry then less and less music will be created, eventually people will work out theres no point in paying for cds and the music industry will die out&#8230;.. but hey! thats not gona stop me.</p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-158258</link>
		<author>alan</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 19:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-158258</guid>
		<description>limewire sucks it's full of virus's and anyway i much prefer buying cd's having the artwork etc. limewire messes up computers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>limewire sucks it&#8217;s full of virus&#8217;s and anyway i much prefer buying cd&#8217;s having the artwork etc. limewire messes up computers</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-28539</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-28539</guid>
		<description>Very True...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very True&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-28538</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-28538</guid>
		<description>That doesnt count previous versions. LimeWire updated their software more recently then Morpheus...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That doesnt count previous versions. LimeWire updated their software more recently then Morpheus&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-28536</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-28536</guid>
		<description>Your an idiot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your an idiot</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-25462</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 05:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-25462</guid>
		<description>Limewire can't be shut down. no matter what the courts decide there will always be another p2p program. it is like tring to stop the water from draining from a bucket while more and more holes appear in he buckets side using only one finger. there is only one court. they can shut down limewire. then people will get xfactor. they shut that down get morphious. P2P CANNOT BE STOPED. no matter how many they shut down. more will come. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Limewire can&#8217;t be shut down. no matter what the courts decide there will always be another p2p program. it is like tring to stop the water from draining from a bucket while more and more holes appear in he buckets side using only one finger. there is only one court. they can shut down limewire. then people will get xfactor. they shut that down get morphious. P2P CANNOT BE STOPED. no matter how many they shut down. more will come.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-21855</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2005 01:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-21855</guid>
		<description>"the Lime Group, a brokerage firm that makes LimeWire, a file-sharing alternative to Grokster"

"LimeWire coo points out that Lime Group LLC is not a brokerage firm and doesn't make LimeWire. That's Lime Wire LLC's job."

Wait. . . so Lime Group is a brokerage firm that makes LimeWire, yet somehow they're not a brokerage firm and they don't make LimeWire?

That makes no sense.  Can someone please clarify?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the Lime Group, a brokerage firm that makes LimeWire, a file-sharing alternative to Grokster&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;LimeWire coo points out that Lime Group LLC is not a brokerage firm and doesn&#8217;t make LimeWire. That&#8217;s Lime Wire LLC&#8217;s job.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wait. . . so Lime Group is a brokerage firm that makes LimeWire, yet somehow they&#8217;re not a brokerage firm and they don&#8217;t make LimeWire?</p>
<p>That makes no sense.  Can someone please clarify?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-19342</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-19342</guid>
		<description>Site is down for me...and the new versions this month have been full of problems

any news on if they are closing for sure ???

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Site is down for me&#8230;and the new versions this month have been full of problems</p>
<p>any news on if they are closing for sure ???</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-17696</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2005 21:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-17696</guid>
		<description>obviously not becuase there still putting out betas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>obviously not becuase there still putting out betas!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-17684</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-17684</guid>
		<description>If I read download.com correctly, as of today, July 29, LimeWire 4.9 has 63,056,159 downloads and Morpheus 5.0 beta has 136,279,671. How does that make LimeWire "most downloaded"? 

Check out poisoned if you have OSX 10.2 or higher. Sweet interface. http://gottsilla.net/poisoned.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I read download.com correctly, as of today, July 29, LimeWire 4.9 has 63,056,159 downloads and Morpheus 5.0 beta has 136,279,671. How does that make LimeWire &#8220;most downloaded&#8221;? </p>
<p>Check out poisoned if you have OSX 10.2 or higher. Sweet interface. <a href="http://gottsilla.net/poisoned.php" rel="nofollow">http://gottsilla.net/poisoned.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-17681</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-17681</guid>
		<description>Actually money and profits has nothing to do with it. What the court said was that inducement to infringe created a responsibility for (vicarious) infringement. Meaning that If you manufacture and sell blank cd's for profit and these are used to copy music without the music pwner permission, you are not responsible for infringing. However if you write on the product box "great for copying copyrighted music and software without the owners's permission" then you are in trouble and the music/software owners could sue you sucessfully. 

So why can't Limewire just put a disclaimer in its program warning about copywright infrengement?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually money and profits has nothing to do with it. What the court said was that inducement to infringe created a responsibility for (vicarious) infringement. Meaning that If you manufacture and sell blank cd&#8217;s for profit and these are used to copy music without the music pwner permission, you are not responsible for infringing. However if you write on the product box &#8220;great for copying copyrighted music and software without the owners&#8217;s permission&#8221; then you are in trouble and the music/software owners could sue you sucessfully. </p>
<p>So why can&#8217;t Limewire just put a disclaimer in its program warning about copywright infrengement?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-17629</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 16:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-17629</guid>
		<description>When will the RIAA / MPAA learn?!  They CAN NOT stop the Internet, they CAN NOT stop the digital revolution...  All they are doing with the lawsuits is HURT old grammas/grampas and little girls/boys --- while at the same time alienating their BIGGEST customers (see previous article how downloaders spend 4 1/2 TIMES as much on purchased material!!!!)

Ha ha ha

Stupid fucks (MPAA / RIAA of course)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When will the RIAA / MPAA learn?!  They CAN NOT stop the Internet, they CAN NOT stop the digital revolution&#8230;  All they are doing with the lawsuits is HURT old grammas/grampas and little girls/boys &#8212; while at the same time alienating their BIGGEST customers (see previous article how downloaders spend 4 1/2 TIMES as much on purchased material!!!!)</p>
<p>Ha ha ha</p>
<p>Stupid fucks (MPAA / RIAA of course)</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-17594</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-17594</guid>
		<description>If a person would want to know the truth , who cares ?

I personally don't involve myself with downloading because limewire has a limited number of mp3s that have  an ethernet download rating that are very rapid in their download speed and the the rest of the downloads take an average of 15 minutes to 3 hours download time and the software program would be in the middle of a download and all of a sudden the file being downloaded would crash and just stop.

 BIG WASTE OF MONEY.

And besides getting sued for an average $4000 by the RIAA is not worth it for a bunch of sometimes poopy sounding compressed mp3 files.

but this does not befront me.

The technology is relatively new and still has a lot of bugs in it. 

As far as movie downloading is concerned forget it.......... 

Maybe the industry will have all of the bugs out of it 5 years from now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a person would want to know the truth , who cares ?</p>
<p>I personally don&#8217;t involve myself with downloading because limewire has a limited number of mp3s that have  an ethernet download rating that are very rapid in their download speed and the the rest of the downloads take an average of 15 minutes to 3 hours download time and the software program would be in the middle of a download and all of a sudden the file being downloaded would crash and just stop.</p>
<p> BIG WASTE OF MONEY.</p>
<p>And besides getting sued for an average $4000 by the RIAA is not worth it for a bunch of sometimes poopy sounding compressed mp3 files.</p>
<p>but this does not befront me.</p>
<p>The technology is relatively new and still has a lot of bugs in it. </p>
<p>As far as movie downloading is concerned forget it&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. </p>
<p>Maybe the industry will have all of the bugs out of it 5 years from now.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-17586</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-17586</guid>
		<description>i haven't used limewire in a few years because...well, because it sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i haven&#8217;t used limewire in a few years because&#8230;well, because it sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-17585</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 01:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-17585</guid>
		<description>That sounds awesome!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds awesome!!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-17568</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-17568</guid>
		<description>"A company that offers an open source, no ads, no spyware type client may be a tougher opponent to tackle. Those in it for the money are going to have a short life span." 

Actually money and profits has nothing to do with it. What the court said was that inducement to infringe created a responsibility for (vicarious) infringement. Meaning that If you manufacture and sell blank cd's for profit and these are used to copy music without the music pwner permission, you are not responsible for infringing. However if you write on the product box "great for copying copyrighted music and software without the owners's permission" then you are in trouble and the music/software owners could sue you sucessfully.

If, on the other hand the statement on the box is "great for copying music", then it will be presumed (by the court) that whatever copying will be done will be with the music owners permission and all will be ok, as far as the manufacturer of the blank cd's are concerned. Mind you, this is not legal advise and courts are unpredictable.

Sure, 99 percent or so of the blank cd's will be used to copy cd's without the owners permission, just like cassettes have always been used. Sure, some of the cd manufacturer themselves are big music owners that know that their products will be used almost exclusively for copying music without the owners permission. But the sale of blank CD are legal because they are not advertised a being great for copying without the music owners permission. Of course they are great for copying and everyone knows it, so that fact does not require mentioning and that keeps the inevitable copiers happy and the cartels disarmed. This is the meaning of Grokster.

Rafael Venegas
http://www.gvenegas.com

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A company that offers an open source, no ads, no spyware type client may be a tougher opponent to tackle. Those in it for the money are going to have a short life span.&#8221; </p>
<p>Actually money and profits has nothing to do with it. What the court said was that inducement to infringe created a responsibility for (vicarious) infringement. Meaning that If you manufacture and sell blank cd&#8217;s for profit and these are used to copy music without the music pwner permission, you are not responsible for infringing. However if you write on the product box &#8220;great for copying copyrighted music and software without the owners&#8217;s permission&#8221; then you are in trouble and the music/software owners could sue you sucessfully.</p>
<p>If, on the other hand the statement on the box is &#8220;great for copying music&#8221;, then it will be presumed (by the court) that whatever copying will be done will be with the music owners permission and all will be ok, as far as the manufacturer of the blank cd&#8217;s are concerned. Mind you, this is not legal advise and courts are unpredictable.</p>
<p>Sure, 99 percent or so of the blank cd&#8217;s will be used to copy cd&#8217;s without the owners permission, just like cassettes have always been used. Sure, some of the cd manufacturer themselves are big music owners that know that their products will be used almost exclusively for copying music without the owners permission. But the sale of blank CD are legal because they are not advertised a being great for copying without the music owners permission. Of course they are great for copying and everyone knows it, so that fact does not require mentioning and that keeps the inevitable copiers happy and the cartels disarmed. This is the meaning of Grokster.</p>
<p>Rafael Venegas<br />
<a href="http://www.gvenegas.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.gvenegas.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-17566</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-17566</guid>
		<description>"A company that offers an open source, no ads, no spyware type client may be a tougher opponent to tackle. Those in it for the money are going to have a short life span."

That's the idea we had in the Shareaza camp. Since no money is being made, and the program has always had notices about infringement, no changes are being made following the court decision.

I think those other vendors that don't make any money from their software are going to be far better protected that those that do. However, I suppose we shall have to see about that.

The case also has the added benefit of meaning that the scam companies that are selling cloned software are probably going to be in a spot of trouble. One example is Etomi where they are selling cloned versions of LimeWire and Shareaza.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A company that offers an open source, no ads, no spyware type client may be a tougher opponent to tackle. Those in it for the money are going to have a short life span.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the idea we had in the Shareaza camp. Since no money is being made, and the program has always had notices about infringement, no changes are being made following the court decision.</p>
<p>I think those other vendors that don&#8217;t make any money from their software are going to be far better protected that those that do. However, I suppose we shall have to see about that.</p>
<p>The case also has the added benefit of meaning that the scam companies that are selling cloned software are probably going to be in a spot of trouble. One example is Etomi where they are selling cloned versions of LimeWire and Shareaza.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-17553</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 07:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-17553</guid>
		<description>Yeap, not going to be any money it from ads. If it is financed by ads then they are certainly responcible for enducing people to use p2p so they can get paid. Instead it looks like, "Mums the word" in what our intentions are. No public announcements as to what direction, no public acknowledgement to changes and what they mean to the downloading public. 

There is one good thing out of all this. A company that offers an open source, no ads, no spyware type client may be a tougher opponent to tackle. Those in it for the money are going to have a short life span. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeap, not going to be any money it from ads. If it is financed by ads then they are certainly responcible for enducing people to use p2p so they can get paid. Instead it looks like, &#8220;Mums the word&#8221; in what our intentions are. No public announcements as to what direction, no public acknowledgement to changes and what they mean to the downloading public. </p>
<p>There is one good thing out of all this. A company that offers an open source, no ads, no spyware type client may be a tougher opponent to tackle. Those in it for the money are going to have a short life span.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-17539</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 00:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5721#comment-17539</guid>
		<description>What this means is that information can be carried from cell and distributed within each individual cell (local network).  The information can be transported via an Internet connection, a laptop computer that is used by a person who travels between two cells, or a CD or DVD ROM.  As far as using laptop computers is concerned, I have considered writing programs that would facilitate drive by downloads and uploads that would work much like traditional p2p networks.  All one would have to do is type in the name of a file and the file will be downloaded if that person passess through a freewan cell that has the file.  

Imagine the **AA's going after filesharers on FreeWan cells.  I know that there would be big trouble if suspicious vehicles were driving through my neighborhood in order to triangulate my Wireless hub.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What this means is that information can be carried from cell and distributed within each individual cell (local network).  The information can be transported via an Internet connection, a laptop computer that is used by a person who travels between two cells, or a CD or DVD ROM.  As far as using laptop computers is concerned, I have considered writing programs that would facilitate drive by downloads and uploads that would work much like traditional p2p networks.  All one would have to do is type in the name of a file and the file will be downloaded if that person passess through a freewan cell that has the file.  </p>
<p>Imagine the **AA&#8217;s going after filesharers on FreeWan cells.  I know that there would be big trouble if suspicious vehicles were driving through my neighborhood in order to triangulate my Wireless hub.</p>
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