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	<title>Comments on: Bram Cohen goes to Hollywood</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-21005</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-21005</guid>
		<description>Bram Cohen's a hippy.

Pock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bram Cohen&#8217;s a hippy.</p>
<p>Pock.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-18011</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-18011</guid>
		<description>Who actually thinks the cartels getting hold of BitTorrent will be the end of it?

BitTorrent is already out there. Its not about to die by any means.

Look at Gnutella. When Justin Frankel released that AOL tried to take it down. Too late. The software was already out and has been improved by a (mostly) dedicated group of people ever since.

AFAIK Frankel doesn't contribute to Gnutella development anymore. I haven't seen him post on the_gdf, anyhow. Cohen giving in to the cartels (if that is even the outcome of this) isn't going to be an end to BT.

There is the point that once the cartels get hold of BT, if they do, they might say they have this new legal technology and 'unauthorised' P2P should be made illegal. They've tried that and it hasn't worked so far but it could end up as another weapon to present to the courts/lawmakers in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who actually thinks the cartels getting hold of BitTorrent will be the end of it?</p>
<p>BitTorrent is already out there. Its not about to die by any means.</p>
<p>Look at Gnutella. When Justin Frankel released that AOL tried to take it down. Too late. The software was already out and has been improved by a (mostly) dedicated group of people ever since.</p>
<p>AFAIK Frankel doesn&#8217;t contribute to Gnutella development anymore. I haven&#8217;t seen him post on the_gdf, anyhow. Cohen giving in to the cartels (if that is even the outcome of this) isn&#8217;t going to be an end to BT.</p>
<p>There is the point that once the cartels get hold of BT, if they do, they might say they have this new legal technology and &#8216;unauthorised&#8217; P2P should be made illegal. They&#8217;ve tried that and it hasn&#8217;t worked so far but it could end up as another weapon to present to the courts/lawmakers in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-18005</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 22:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-18005</guid>
		<description>This is another classic way of how Kazaa turned out to be. Though kazaa from the beginning was a horrible software to begin with, it still sold out and now with bittorrent there seems to be no end. 

here is a question why dont the cartels make their own network and try to distribute products at a sane price? just because you set yourself in a popular network doesnt mean people will flock to it. why are some dvds being sold for $50 each in walmart while jsut a few feet away there are DVDs for $2? This isnt because of the supply. 

The cartels are just trying in every way possible to get their products sold, without a reasonable way. knowing them they will buy off the network and start suing bitcomet and azueres for "copyright infirgement".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is another classic way of how Kazaa turned out to be. Though kazaa from the beginning was a horrible software to begin with, it still sold out and now with bittorrent there seems to be no end. </p>
<p>here is a question why dont the cartels make their own network and try to distribute products at a sane price? just because you set yourself in a popular network doesnt mean people will flock to it. why are some dvds being sold for $50 each in walmart while jsut a few feet away there are DVDs for $2? This isnt because of the supply. </p>
<p>The cartels are just trying in every way possible to get their products sold, without a reasonable way. knowing them they will buy off the network and start suing bitcomet and azueres for &#8220;copyright infirgement&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17859</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 12:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17859</guid>
		<description>You posted that as anonymous you idiot.</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17844</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 10:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17844</guid>
		<description>That is sound advice from your fellow man.  Bram, take care of yourself.  

I know you thought everything out, or at least tried.  We know that you published BT without have ANY intentions to conceal the user´s IP address --- but remember, the RIAA / MPAA are not about REASON, LOGIC, HUMANITY, SHARING, or any of those ¨trivialities¨.

Maximize your benefits from your hard work developing BT, but watch your back.  Keep in mind the RIAA / MPAA are NOT your friends, they do not care for you, and they are CURRENTLY devising any ¨cunning" plan to destroy you AND your hard work.

Not if, but when the time comes, when they stab you in the back... Bram, give a shout out to the rest of the Internet community.  We brothers and sisters of the global community WILL find ways to help you out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is sound advice from your fellow man.  Bram, take care of yourself.  </p>
<p>I know you thought everything out, or at least tried.  We know that you published BT without have ANY intentions to conceal the user´s IP address &#8212; but remember, the RIAA / MPAA are not about REASON, LOGIC, HUMANITY, SHARING, or any of those ¨trivialities¨.</p>
<p>Maximize your benefits from your hard work developing BT, but watch your back.  Keep in mind the RIAA / MPAA are NOT your friends, they do not care for you, and they are CURRENTLY devising any ¨cunning&#8221; plan to destroy you AND your hard work.</p>
<p>Not if, but when the time comes, when they stab you in the back&#8230; Bram, give a shout out to the rest of the Internet community.  We brothers and sisters of the global community WILL find ways to help you out.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17843</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 10:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17843</guid>
		<description>¨By way of deception, we shall do war¨

Keep this in mind.  Know who you are dealing with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>¨By way of deception, we shall do war¨</p>
<p>Keep this in mind.  Know who you are dealing with.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17842</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 10:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17842</guid>
		<description>All in all, I remembered when Bram Cohen first published BT.  I´ve been using it since, and I still remember it would occassionally redirect to his webpage asking for Paypal.  And I thought then, and I still think now, I want to help him out.  I don´t have paypal, and I´m also unemployed.

But I recognize his hard work, and many others like him.  And I still want to help him out.  So when I´m employed, I´ve made the firm commitment that I will help him out and others like him, both financially and in spreading the word.

Free Software is a great social cause.  It has helped so many people and companies.  Even mega-corporations incorporate FS (GPL) including IBM, and Microsoft (yes, Microsoft), and even the notorious SCO has included it in their recent version of OpenServer.

It is a great idea, GPL, since developers and users use widgets and code from each other.  But, it would be really nice for those who benefited (and can afford) to help these guys out.  They need to feed their families.  But, if you are like me at the moment, unable to financially help, always keep this thought in mind.  So when the time comes, help out your fellow GPL programmer who has given his time to help us --- If you like help out with the programs you like and found useful.  But I would suggest, also help out the lesser known programs since they definitely need exposure and help.

Well that´s all I have to say.  I´m working hard looking for a job.  I´ve always thought about setting up a ¨Free Software Charity Foundation¨ whose aim is to assist those who contribute to the world by developing Free Software.

It´s harder than some people think.  But, I also know that writing good code is hard work, so that is why I am so determined to create this FS Charity Foundation.  For those who know me (and that is many), I always had ´lofty´ ideals --- but, they also know that I´m an EXTREMELY dedicated person.  They have learned from experience to never doubt my dedication and commitment to helping others.  I am a man of my words!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All in all, I remembered when Bram Cohen first published BT.  I´ve been using it since, and I still remember it would occassionally redirect to his webpage asking for Paypal.  And I thought then, and I still think now, I want to help him out.  I don´t have paypal, and I´m also unemployed.</p>
<p>But I recognize his hard work, and many others like him.  And I still want to help him out.  So when I´m employed, I´ve made the firm commitment that I will help him out and others like him, both financially and in spreading the word.</p>
<p>Free Software is a great social cause.  It has helped so many people and companies.  Even mega-corporations incorporate FS (GPL) including IBM, and Microsoft (yes, Microsoft), and even the notorious SCO has included it in their recent version of OpenServer.</p>
<p>It is a great idea, GPL, since developers and users use widgets and code from each other.  But, it would be really nice for those who benefited (and can afford) to help these guys out.  They need to feed their families.  But, if you are like me at the moment, unable to financially help, always keep this thought in mind.  So when the time comes, help out your fellow GPL programmer who has given his time to help us &#8212; If you like help out with the programs you like and found useful.  But I would suggest, also help out the lesser known programs since they definitely need exposure and help.</p>
<p>Well that´s all I have to say.  I´m working hard looking for a job.  I´ve always thought about setting up a ¨Free Software Charity Foundation¨ whose aim is to assist those who contribute to the world by developing Free Software.</p>
<p>It´s harder than some people think.  But, I also know that writing good code is hard work, so that is why I am so determined to create this FS Charity Foundation.  For those who know me (and that is many), I always had ´lofty´ ideals &#8212; but, they also know that I´m an EXTREMELY dedicated person.  They have learned from experience to never doubt my dedication and commitment to helping others.  I am a man of my words!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17839</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 09:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17839</guid>
		<description>Nope Catflap, can't flame you either. Read too many of your past comments on things and pretty much know how you stand. You present a well reasoned and thought out post; no matter what we wish all in life isn't flowers and candy. 

I can't blame Bram either. He has a chance to finally make his creation pay and pay in a big way. 

I doubt it will be a bittorret but it will be configured along the same basis with the cartel in sole control. Businesses can indeed commission someone to create for them and I suspect this is what is going on. After all, bittorrent would be the idea way of distribution, just as it is for the p2p'ers. The cartels won't rest until the p2p competition is gone. Doesn't matter if they offer an equivalent or not but it looks better to the politican they have to work with if there is something legal out there to point to. If you think about it, that is exactly how the p2p sueing started. Only after there was a legal alternative. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope Catflap, can&#8217;t flame you either. Read too many of your past comments on things and pretty much know how you stand. You present a well reasoned and thought out post; no matter what we wish all in life isn&#8217;t flowers and candy. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t blame Bram either. He has a chance to finally make his creation pay and pay in a big way. </p>
<p>I doubt it will be a bittorret but it will be configured along the same basis with the cartel in sole control. Businesses can indeed commission someone to create for them and I suspect this is what is going on. After all, bittorrent would be the idea way of distribution, just as it is for the p2p&#8217;ers. The cartels won&#8217;t rest until the p2p competition is gone. Doesn&#8217;t matter if they offer an equivalent or not but it looks better to the politican they have to work with if there is something legal out there to point to. If you think about it, that is exactly how the p2p sueing started. Only after there was a legal alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17836</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 08:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17836</guid>
		<description>hey bram! have you memorized the party line yet? well, here it is for your convenience:

"P2P is Piracy. P2P is Thievery."

make sure you have it ready for your first press conference where you announce the sale of BitTorrent to the illegal cartels who waved millions of dollars under your nose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey bram! have you memorized the party line yet? well, here it is for your convenience:</p>
<p>&#8220;P2P is Piracy. P2P is Thievery.&#8221;</p>
<p>make sure you have it ready for your first press conference where you announce the sale of BitTorrent to the illegal cartels who waved millions of dollars under your nose.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17834</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 08:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17834</guid>
		<description>this news really sucks. first napster gets screwed. then kazaa gets wrecked  by crap and spyware. now the fucking freedom fighter is in talks with the friggin enemy. say it aint so. someone say it aint so. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this news really sucks. first napster gets screwed. then kazaa gets wrecked  by crap and spyware. now the fucking freedom fighter is in talks with the friggin enemy. say it aint so. someone say it aint so.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17833</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 08:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17833</guid>
		<description>No flames here bro. It looks like Bram Cohen is positioning himself to Sell Us all out like those corporate scumbags at Kazaa/Sharman networks. As soon as Sharman got a hold of the big "K" they totally stuffed it with all their "commercialising" and control of it. It's got me amazed how it's still alive. Its dying though, because it sold everybody a malware/spyware/adware riddled con. Now it looks like similar is happening with Bittorrent with these Cartel negotiations. The millions involved must be very tempting to Cohen. I dont think any commercial/cartel cotrolled P2P will wash with the freesharing community. Simply because why it is loved so much is because it's FREE. Now the cartels can't trump that, no matter what application they acquire control of. Look out for the next better than bittorent P2P. Bittorent aint an end it's a beginning, as long as the Cartel bribed Gov'ts of the world don't pass new laws to control us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No flames here bro. It looks like Bram Cohen is positioning himself to Sell Us all out like those corporate scumbags at Kazaa/Sharman networks. As soon as Sharman got a hold of the big &#8220;K&#8221; they totally stuffed it with all their &#8220;commercialising&#8221; and control of it. It&#8217;s got me amazed how it&#8217;s still alive. Its dying though, because it sold everybody a malware/spyware/adware riddled con. Now it looks like similar is happening with Bittorrent with these Cartel negotiations. The millions involved must be very tempting to Cohen. I dont think any commercial/cartel cotrolled P2P will wash with the freesharing community. Simply because why it is loved so much is because it&#8217;s FREE. Now the cartels can&#8217;t trump that, no matter what application they acquire control of. Look out for the next better than bittorent P2P. Bittorent aint an end it&#8217;s a beginning, as long as the Cartel bribed Gov&#8217;ts of the world don&#8217;t pass new laws to control us.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17832</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 08:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17832</guid>
		<description>Bittorent the company can make custom protocols for commericial enterprise and it can be proprtietary .Many open source developers release somthing as GPL to get thier name out there .

Bram worked for Valve Software on thier Steam project and He can do what he damn well likes .

If the movie industry are getting ready to set up generation of distribution and set up a online libary like Netflix whats the problem I dont mind paying $20 a month for 'unlimited' videos that I currently rip and burn to DVD .
If I had I had a online video  libary that I could acess 24/7/365 and download to stream to my TV I wouldnt need to rip a dvd the shrink and burn it .Technology like Bittorent and  LXSystems can make this a reality .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bittorent the company can make custom protocols for commericial enterprise and it can be proprtietary .Many open source developers release somthing as GPL to get thier name out there .</p>
<p>Bram worked for Valve Software on thier Steam project and He can do what he damn well likes .</p>
<p>If the movie industry are getting ready to set up generation of distribution and set up a online libary like Netflix whats the problem I dont mind paying $20 a month for &#8216;unlimited&#8217; videos that I currently rip and burn to DVD .<br />
If I had I had a online video  libary that I could acess 24/7/365 and download to stream to my TV I wouldnt need to rip a dvd the shrink and burn it .Technology like Bittorent and  LXSystems can make this a reality .</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17831</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 07:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17831</guid>
		<description>i could be wrong but once a product is released under a open liense i don't think you can change the rules legally in middle of the game.   Bram could relase a very simlair product to bt that the  riaa and mpaa  can control but that us whole another issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i could be wrong but once a product is released under a open liense i don&#8217;t think you can change the rules legally in middle of the game.   Bram could relase a very simlair product to bt that the  riaa and mpaa  can control but that us whole another issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17829</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 05:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17829</guid>
		<description>There is no need for "flaming".   The article is dead one.  Your analysis is a likely possibility, since being GPL, BT can be used by the MPAA / RIAA for commercial use WITHOUT ANY restrictions on the user.  That's what's so great about the GPL ---- it guarantees FREEDOM for the USER &#038; DEVELOPERS.  But, like you said, the RIAA / MPAA do not play fair, they do not follow the rules, and by any and all means they like to pervert and manipulate the law --- not only here in America, but the rest of the world as well.  

And this is what we are witnessing.  It is not a "possibility", it's a REALITY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no need for &#8220;flaming&#8221;.   The article is dead one.  Your analysis is a likely possibility, since being GPL, BT can be used by the MPAA / RIAA for commercial use WITHOUT ANY restrictions on the user.  That&#8217;s what&#8217;s so great about the GPL &#8212;- it guarantees FREEDOM for the USER &#038; DEVELOPERS.  But, like you said, the RIAA / MPAA do not play fair, they do not follow the rules, and by any and all means they like to pervert and manipulate the law &#8212; not only here in America, but the rest of the world as well.  </p>
<p>And this is what we are witnessing.  It is not a &#8220;possibility&#8221;, it&#8217;s a REALITY.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17827</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 05:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17827</guid>
		<description>I say that this could smell bad news to all of us given the situations that you presented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say that this could smell bad news to all of us given the situations that you presented.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17825</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 04:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/5773#comment-17825</guid>
		<description>i know, i know...everyone is gonna hate me as soon as they read the subject line and then start flaming me. ok, bring it on. i don't care and i don't reply to trolls. but at least read and think about what i'm writing:

yes, bram is a genius. obviously. he did what no-one else could do. besides creating the best-ever p2p program, he made it free and open source.

ok, he also says he never intended it to be used for so-called "illegal filesharing" and states that he has never used it in that manner himself.

that's fine, too. i admire him for what he's done for millions of people, as well as being available online to help and answer questions, never charging a cent for his services.

i also know that he'd been unemployed for some time and had been looking for work in the software industry.

but now it looks as if he's getting all cozy with the cartels and the big players, and has got at least a foot in bed with them. and it looks like pretty soon one of them will be pulling the blanket up above their heads.

BitTorrent was created as open source for anyone to use. the cartels don't have to ask bram's permission to use it, as far as i know. i might be wrong if it's for commercial use, but i might be right, too.

so, what happens when BT is in bed with the cartels? lots of heavy petting, groping, and finally...the average p2per gets screwed when the cartels buy the company "BitTorrent" and have the so-called "legal right" to close down every tracker, and arrest and sue as many innocent people as they wish.

at that point - and it looks like it might be much sooner than later - free BT will cease to exist and the cartels (btw, cartels are illegal by any definition) will control any and all trackers and development of BitTorrent. and then it will probably be limited to crappy wmv/wma files and loaded with drm and who know's what else. plus, you'll have to pay for it.

it'll either be that, or do it the old-fashioned way: wait years - or forever - for your local tv stations, theatres, and video shops to have what you want.

ok, yes! i know! bram is free to do what he likes. he has the freedom to choose any type of employment he wants. and he deserves a good life after all the crap he's probably had to put up with the past few years.

but doesn't this smell fishy to anyone else? doesn't the possible demise of free BitTorrent outrage anyone else?

doesn't this look like a Loki-style scam? it looks that way to me.

ok, let the flaming begin! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know, i know&#8230;everyone is gonna hate me as soon as they read the subject line and then start flaming me. ok, bring it on. i don&#8217;t care and i don&#8217;t reply to trolls. but at least read and think about what i&#8217;m writing:</p>
<p>yes, bram is a genius. obviously. he did what no-one else could do. besides creating the best-ever p2p program, he made it free and open source.</p>
<p>ok, he also says he never intended it to be used for so-called &#8220;illegal filesharing&#8221; and states that he has never used it in that manner himself.</p>
<p>that&#8217;s fine, too. i admire him for what he&#8217;s done for millions of people, as well as being available online to help and answer questions, never charging a cent for his services.</p>
<p>i also know that he&#8217;d been unemployed for some time and had been looking for work in the software industry.</p>
<p>but now it looks as if he&#8217;s getting all cozy with the cartels and the big players, and has got at least a foot in bed with them. and it looks like pretty soon one of them will be pulling the blanket up above their heads.</p>
<p>BitTorrent was created as open source for anyone to use. the cartels don&#8217;t have to ask bram&#8217;s permission to use it, as far as i know. i might be wrong if it&#8217;s for commercial use, but i might be right, too.</p>
<p>so, what happens when BT is in bed with the cartels? lots of heavy petting, groping, and finally&#8230;the average p2per gets screwed when the cartels buy the company &#8220;BitTorrent&#8221; and have the so-called &#8220;legal right&#8221; to close down every tracker, and arrest and sue as many innocent people as they wish.</p>
<p>at that point - and it looks like it might be much sooner than later - free BT will cease to exist and the cartels (btw, cartels are illegal by any definition) will control any and all trackers and development of BitTorrent. and then it will probably be limited to crappy wmv/wma files and loaded with drm and who know&#8217;s what else. plus, you&#8217;ll have to pay for it.</p>
<p>it&#8217;ll either be that, or do it the old-fashioned way: wait years - or forever - for your local tv stations, theatres, and video shops to have what you want.</p>
<p>ok, yes! i know! bram is free to do what he likes. he has the freedom to choose any type of employment he wants. and he deserves a good life after all the crap he&#8217;s probably had to put up with the past few years.</p>
<p>but doesn&#8217;t this smell fishy to anyone else? doesn&#8217;t the possible demise of free BitTorrent outrage anyone else?</p>
<p>doesn&#8217;t this look like a Loki-style scam? it looks that way to me.</p>
<p>ok, let the flaming begin! <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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