….and i rest my case.

LOL, actually, it’s more like if you were to buy some lemonade, then steal their lemonade recipe, then give free copys to everyone on the street. You aren’t actaully depriving them of anything, just copying.

“Without big profits, big movies that are awesome won’t be funded as much. No more Pirates of the Carribean, no more Lord of the Rings, no more Samurai. Haha, perhaps we’ll get rid of movies like The Phantom Menace, which would be great, but the loss of other movies wouldn’t be worth it. ”

and $52 billion isn’t a big profit??? Big movies make big money, regardless. The industry isn’t in any big hurt. Besides, I heard somewhere that this country CARED about its majority voice….we are after all, a democracy….oh wait, make that republican democracy? We have a vote….it just doesn’t seem to mean much…

“The reason 80% of people are making others rich is usually because they aren’t thinking smart about money. Twenty year olds right now are thousands of dollars in credit card debt just because they wanted the newest shiney thing or the greatest toy.”

Or weren’t lucky enough to be born to a family with shitloads of money and have to work their way though college. I personally owe $2000 to credit card debt because I like things like food, water and electricity…but if I see one more 12 yr old with a cell phone when I can barely afford a land line i swear i’m gonna…

“If they end up slaving away for the rest of their lives to make others rich and pay off that debt, serves them right for being so stupid, I say. Stupidity is always punished, and no matter how many laws and regulations are passed to try and change it, that’s the way it will always be.”

Well, can’t argue with that. ‘Cept not all of us are here because of stupidity, just consequence. Don’t be so quick to judge my freind.

Unless total quantum computing comes along, I believe that all forms of content will ultimately be freely available. Wait till hardware-designs start getting exchanged for yet to come nanotechnological replicators.

As a sidebar, note that P2P is setting the tone for an anarchist society. The future of the term “control” itself is being challenged.

Say there’s a lemonade stand. You buy a cup for a dollar, and you like it. Later that day, you go back and steal a whole jugful. By your logic, you’ve done nothing wrong because you already gave the business operators a dollar.

I guess because you gave them something, it’s ok, even though the stolen lemonade makes it harder for them to make more of the lemonade you like when it comes to buying lemons, sugar, etc.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the movie industry makes most of its profits from rental and VCR/DVD sales. You can justify your thievery all you want with lame excuses like, “I already gave them something,” but you’re still a thief. Pirates should just get over it and admit it, instead of making lame excuses. I do. That’s all I was saying.

Without big profits, big movies that are awesome won’t be funded as much. No more Pirates of the Carribean, no more Lord of the Rings, no more Samurai. Haha, perhaps we’ll get rid of movies like The Phantom Menace, which would be great, but the loss of other movies wouldn’t be worth it.

It’s not so much the internet as what the internet allows when it comes to piracy. The piracy in Asia is insane. It gives movie makers a serious heart palpitation, simply because there’s not much from stopping something like that happening elsewhere. When people can buy movies before they’re even out in cinemas, the industry is losing money in Asia. I don’t see how anyone could disagree. I personally saw X-men II in high quality format after a kid I knew downloaded it and burned it to CD. I never bothered with the cinema, yet probably would have if piracy weren’t possible. Most software pirates could probably give at least one similar example.

Communism sounds great on paper, but it just doesn’t work. The USSR demonstrated this. China knows it, and they’re already working towards a more capitalist and free society. Communism is a failed idea of the past, incompatible with human nature (primarily, greed, lust for power, etc etc). The less free a society, the shittier it is. Capitalism is great because everyone has an opportunity, provided she’s willing to pull her head out of her ass and start thinking smart about money.

The reason 80% of people are making others rich is usually because they aren’t thinking smart about money. Twenty year olds right now are thousands of dollars in credit card debt just because they wanted the newest shiney thing or the greatest toy. If they end up slaving away for the rest of their lives to make others rich and pay off that debt, serves them right for being so stupid, I say. Stupidity is always punished, and no matter how many laws and regulations are passed to try and change it, that’s the way it will always be.

anyway If the moviebuisiness thinks that everyone who is downloading movies, would actually by them (at the offical, really overpriced, price) if the internet didn’t exist… they are wrong and just not beeing realistic.
The industry just wants to make even higher profits… Wich is okay by me, but if they just stop beeing greedy themselfs, and spilt their profits more honnestly, instead of a couple few overpaid “big chiefs” (like some verry bad and overpaid actors…), I think the buisiness would gain even more 3.5 biljon dollars, since they don’t have to invest anymore in this stupid game!

but hey human kind won’t learn from their collective misstakes…
Won’t we all want more security.. money ect. so why is 80 % of people working to make some else rich? (I think Karl Marx was right!)

Really, it isnt theft. Theft is when you take something and as a result, the owner no longer has it. this is copyright infringement not theft. If the chairman of Warner Bros doesnt know the distinction between the two then perhaps he should go back to counting the $52b he has in his kitty – maybe even spend some of it on a dictionary. If he’s too hard up to buy one, might I suggest http://www.dictionary.com

‘The act of stealing; specifically, the felonious taking and removing of personal property, with an intent to deprive the rightful owner of the same; larceny.

Note: To constitute theft there must be a taking without the owner’s consent, and it must be unlawful or felonious; every part of the property stolen must be removed, however slightly, from its former position; and it must be, at least momentarily, in the complete possession of the thief. See Larceny, and the Note under Robbery.’