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p2pnet.net News:- Those of you who hit p2pnet on a regular basis may recall a post we did on Peer Impact.
At the time, we said it was, “one of the first to bill itself as a ‘legal p2p network‘ without explaining where or what the ‘illegal’ ones were.” In fact, Peer Impact is a hard-core sales site dedicated to peddling the same limited selection of Big Four record label cartel downloads that are available at the same exorbitant prices elsewhere.
But, we pointed out, there was a difference between it and other ‘legal’ p2p sites, namely, “it wants users to work for something it calls Peer Cash”. Clever, the way it works it name into the ‘product’. And it also wants to plant report-back software in their computers.
As p2pnet reader Scratches Head commented, “Let me get this right, I pay for my internet connection, electricity, and for the music. I leave the computer on and hooked up and load my drives with music. IF I am lucky enough that someone uses my bandwidth to get the song, I get what? This isn’t even real money. I doubt that my utilities would accept this (what was it again?) Peer Cash, as payment for their services. No matter what I do in this process it is always going to cost, no matter how many songs people chose to d/l from me. The theoritical is rarely going to be met. This is closer to pymarid selling than an opportunity with just another scheme to slice away from you the user money and in this case your bandwidth also. Must be nice to get such ardent supporters to defend it as well.”
Does all this give you the impression we were, well, perhaps just a trifle dubious about Peer Impact?
It does? Well, one of the things we were wondering about was the above-mentioned Peer Cash which features a �unique technology� through which users get paid dummy money for acting as “redistributors” of content bought from Peer Impact.
Or as Drake Zamanov down yonder in Tarana (Toronto) puts it, �Earn money for sharing your music, spamming strangers, and peddling our uber crap.�
There’s more, much more, in his hilarious Peer Impact piss-take. (NOTE: There’s a flash intro so if you don’t have it installed, just go here)
Under user raves, “My friend sent me a link to Peer Impact yesterday and I signed up immediately! I had never heard of this great service before and didn’t believe that I could become rich over night. It’s not a get rich overnight sceheme but guess what? I’m now filthy rich beyond belief! In just 6 short hours, I made $6.5 million and all I had to do was upload music I purchased for 6 hours and post a few hotlinks on high trafficked Websites. I’ll probably be a billionaire by next week and it’s all because of Peer Impact ~Ralph from Boston�
He also has a section slugged Peer Impact interviews Staff from the Office. Here�s part of it. (WARNING: Make sure you’re sitting down and if you have a tendency to snort liquids up your nose when you laugh, don’t drink anything while you’re reading this)
Part 1
AussieMatt: First of all, thank you for taking part in this study. I hope you have all enjoyed using Peer Impact. I’d like to start off by getting some feedback. What did you all think of Peer Impact?
Gareth: It’s rubbish.
AussieMatt: Oh…can you tell me why you didn’t like it?
Gareth: I couldn’t find anything. It’s not user friendly at all.
AussieMatt: That’s strange because most of our users have expressed that it is user friendly.
Gareth: Well it’s not.
AussieMatt: What were you looking for?
Gareth: I…well, something in particular.
AussieMatt: I see. Is it possible that you were looking for music from a group that’s on a label which hasn’t signed up with us…
Tim: What were you searching for, Gareth?
Gareth: Lesbians…sisters.
Chris: Christ!
AussieMatt: Well, that’s why. You can only download audio files on Peer Impact, we don’t have video files yet.
Chris: Sure you do. My mates download all sorts of videos from these P2P programs.
AussieMatt: Yes but not on ours.
Chris: Oh yea on yours too. Step aside, I’ll find you something.
[Chris searches for “Beastiality”]
Gareth: See, 0 results. It’s rubbish
AussieMatt: No, you can’t find video files on Peer Impact.
Gareth: Let me try again.
[Gareth searches for lesbians + sisters]
Gareth: Still nothing.
David Brent: Your search was too refined, this isn’t google. Remove the + sign.
AussieMatt: No, you can’t…
[Gareth searches for “lesbian sisters”
Chris: Still no results. Are you sure this thing works?
AussieMatt: I can’t believe you tried this for a week and still don’t know how it works! You can’t download ANY video files!
Gareth: Well how should you know? You told us you don’t even work for Peer Impact.
Chris: I’ve never even heard of your company.
AussieMatt: It’s part of wurldmedia. Here look…
[AussieMatt brings up the wurldmedia Website]
Gareth: The company logo has a typo…and so does the URL.
Chris: Christ these kids can’t even spell and they’re running a company. No wonder it doesn’t work.
AussieMatt: No, it’s purposely spelled that way. That IS the correct spelling of the company.
David Brent: Oh…big mistake. You should advise them to change that.
AussieMatt: You don’t understand…
David Brent: That company won’t get far by portraying ignorance.
AussieMatt: …
Chris: Hmmm, try spelling lesbians with a U instead of an E. Maybe you have to spell things wrong in order to get results.
[Gareth searches for “lusbians”]
Gareth: Still 0 results.
AussieMatt: No…what are you…
Tim: Try it with the letter O, Gareth
[Gareth types in “Losbians”]
Gareth: Nope…nothing.
David Brent: Yeah, it looks like there’s a lot of work to be done on this program before it’s ready.
Something you think we should know? tips[at]p2pnet.net
See:-
legal p2p network - Peer Impact and Peer Cash, p2pnet, July 20, 2005
August 16th, 2005 at 11:22 pm
not one song result with lesbian in it?
must not have signed Avril yet
::hears a drum tap.. far far…. far away::
August 16th, 2005 at 11:37 pm
“one of the things we were wondering about was the above-mentioned Peer Cash which features a “unique technology” through which users get paid dummy money for acting as “redistributors” of content bought from Peer Impact.”
Paid for redistributing content bought from Peer Impact?? does that mean that users are licenseed to distribute the product and can fire up Kazza and upload all they want?? interesting.
August 17th, 2005 at 12:56 am
If you head to any of the P2P forums…. The moment someone post a negative comment about Peer Impact, Aussie Matt and his band of omnipotent (or was that oblivious) cronies show up to defend “the greatest software on the planet”.
It reminds me of the old “Earthstation 5″ trolls that contantly scoured the internet in an attempt to defend their reputation.
Zathras
August 17th, 2005 at 1:21 am
Nooooooo !!!! Say it ain’t SO (in bold itals)
Aussie Matt a shill? I WON’T HAVE IT !!!!
heh
Cheers!
August 17th, 2005 at 2:02 am
It is irresponsible of P2Pnet.net to write this story, basically lambasting a member of the P2P community (AussieMatt.) Whether or not you agree with his stance is no grounds to print this as an actual story and try to embarrass him.
So is this the result of those who do not agree with the philosophy of P2Pnet.net? Now, save your breaths with your predictable counter-arguments, I do not work for PeerImpact. But I don’t agree with persecuting someone based on their beliefs.
August 17th, 2005 at 2:06 am
I really have no feelings either way about Peer Impact, but this article just demonstrates how bad the articles are getting on this site. You wouldn’t see an article like this on slyck or some of the other p2p blog sites.
August 17th, 2005 at 2:09 am
I totally agree. I just posted a similar reply. This is in extremely poor taste and really represents the type of people that run this site.
August 17th, 2005 at 2:33 am
First of all, “AussieMatt” only appeared in the office interview section and if you actually read it you would have noticed that I wasn’t attacking him. His name was used because he’s the most vocal supporter of Peer Impact. Notice how there’s a little joke in the script regarding how he actually doesn’t work for the company.
Furthermore, attacking p2pnet’s credibility for posting a parody is laughable. Pretty much every p2p news site has posted at least one or two parodies. Respected sites such as The Register also post parodies once in a while.
If you don’t think it’s funny or think it flat out sucks that’s one thing, but getting all upset because a news site posted a parody is ridiculous.
August 17th, 2005 at 2:40 am
“I do not work for PeerImpact”
Uh huh. Right.
LOL
“We at PeerImpact have no sense of humor that we’re aware of “
August 17th, 2005 at 3:07 am
you’re right,
and while we’re at it It’s irresponsible to criticized President Bush because he holds the same office as Lincoln and Roosevelt…
and it’s irresponsible to criticize the RIAA as they are an entity representing their clients intrest like the AARP or the NAACP…
and it’s irresponsible to criticize the congress because they are part of a great democracy….
and the list goes on……
August 17th, 2005 at 3:17 am
Hey I think Drakes Parody is Funny and we joked about it over at Slyck after I fell over .
And cant p2pnet cant attibute an author to the “news” story or is it author too embaraased to reveal themselves .Maybe you should run a Alex Malik Story again I like his articles .
I dont think P2Pnet who has advertisers like Blubster which is Pablo Santo and Wayne Russo the developers of Mashboxx , who are also direct competiors to Peer Impact hold any creedence running FUD stories about Peer Impact when one of thier advertisers is also involved with setting up a simmilar pay p2p network that will also distribute thier Snocapped files onto the Fastrack and Gnuttella Networks ,if they ever get a client out for beta testing .
Wayne Russo has publicly admited his disdain for Peer Impact .
What about Drake’s Mashboxx Paraody
http://drake51.bravehost.com/mash.html
Mashboxx is Not Vaporware ,Due for release in 2031
Actually most of P2Pnets advertisers have announced payp2p platforms including Warezp2p. Bearshare and Streamcast .the developers of Morpheus. annonouced thier Peer Response Platform that will supposedly be distributing Halo 2 if you read thier press release .Peer responce will also be distributing Weed Files a pyramid marketing music file distriution DRM container .
P2Pnets Article on Peer Response Streamcasts pay P2P Plpatform.
http://p2pnet.net/story/5875
As I said stop the FUD and less puff pieces on Russo and your advertisers
Report some real news .You usually do a good job at that .
August 17th, 2005 at 3:24 am
Matt, I noticed that you and a few others over at Peer Impact like to compare what you’re doing with what Streamcast is doing. What you conveniently fail to note is that the Morpheus client will continue to be free and people can share whatever they like with each other.
On the other hand, users can’t share files on Peer Impact, they have to purchase them. It’s strictly a pay service, unlike Morpheus.
I’m glad you liked the parody. I would have done more with Mashboxx if their site had more content.
August 17th, 2005 at 3:30 am
Drake will they be selling the xiso’s of Halo2 ?
Ill chat to you later about Peer Impacts plans for consumer ingestion as I dont want to be seen promoting it ; )
August 17th, 2005 at 3:38 am
you are so transparent Aussie Matt
August 17th, 2005 at 3:53 am
Why wont you people Log in .
August 17th, 2005 at 4:20 am
I’ve tried but it won’t let me in for some reason. so I sign my name.
Rick
August 17th, 2005 at 4:34 am
Who cares about the people at this site all 5 of them
August 17th, 2005 at 4:40 am
I bet their downloads go up everytime a moron does this….
August 17th, 2005 at 5:20 am
Hee Hee …
” Harrison Bergeron ” here we come
August 17th, 2005 at 7:26 am
One reader asks why some don’t log in. Personally, I rarely do. Do I have a log in? Yes I do. I would prefer that the text that is typed stands on its own. It is either recognised as having a point or put down as not. It has nothing to do with who I am but rather the thoughts presented.
I was suprised to see an old post used as an example in this story; still the feeling holds the same for me. Virtual cash has no value. You can’t spend it elsewhere. With the theme of the Peer Impact there is no way you are going to get off without paying. In that sense it is not true p2p, nor do I care for the fakery involved with trying to pass itself off as such to those unsuspecting victims as a true p2p. You can still find sites on the net that want payment for simply downloading a p2p client, the majority of them scam sites and nothing more.
I had seen the site that Drake put up while he was in the process of making the parody. It is where the warning came from that if you don’t have flashplayer that there is another link to access the site without having to go through it. When he reads this he will know me as the poster in another place, that made the flash intro point.
August 17th, 2005 at 9:39 am
Slyck has a tendency of posting inaccurate, badly researched and altogether very unprofessional articles. This article was so funny it really deserves to be posted.
August 17th, 2005 at 10:11 am
I Rest my case…….. Zathras
August 17th, 2005 at 10:12 am
roflmao….cheers fer that
August 17th, 2005 at 10:26 am
“I don’t agree with persecuting someone based on their beliefs.”
ok, ok, I know I shouldn’t reply to trolls but I mean c’mon. If you don’t agree with it then STFU, give Jon the same respect to print whatever he feels like. It’s his damn website after all is said and done
Now back below thy bridge, foul troll, bother us no more.
August 17th, 2005 at 12:58 pm
Nice work P2Pnet we in the press have been trying to show the world that P2P is legitimate technology not a rouge community. Here we are at what is supposed to be a legitimate news site with a complete lapse in judgment. This kind of lapse in judgment sends a message to the content community that we make bad decisions and are irresponsible. It only takes one thing like this to confirm the actions and beliefs of the RIAA and the MPAA as we who are trying to make a difference push the bolder up hill.
What a disappointment and is there anybody more than 12 years old in this community anymore? This community just continues to be a problem not a solution and this has changed my mind and many other people’s minds that really matter. I’m not sure anybody here has any significance other than a talentless newsgroup has given you a voice in the same vein as a monkey with a shotgun. New name for this site www.Planetoftheapes.net
August 17th, 2005 at 1:07 pm
Why is everybody afraid of Peer Impact?
August 17th, 2005 at 1:13 pm
You’re right both times.
Morg
August 17th, 2005 at 10:05 pm
P2P IS a legitmate technology. It is also changing the face of the music industry for the better. Yes, there are plenty of people in the recording industry that are getting hurt because of this. They are seeing the consequences of putting overpriced, crappy product on the market and dominating the media with their advertising. Peer to peer networking does the exact same thing as a radio and tv station, only it broadcasts content over a network instead of radio waves. Before peer to peer, people could either buy the media from a store, hear it on tv, radio, or from a recording. Now, they have a new choice, they can hear or record it from the Internet. Peer to peer is not piracy, it is broadcasting. It is the entertainment cartels that are the rougues because their crap is poisoning our culture.
Smaller labels and artists cannot get the same sweetheart deals that the big players get when it comes to advertising, so they do not receive any where near the public exposure. Now, the smaller labels can broadcast their music just like the big ones. I believe that this is what really irks the cartels. If the cartels want to compete, then they ought to start turning out decent music and stop bullying
people. As long as they continue to poison cultures with the crap that they currently produce, then they do not deserve and copyright protections (copyrights are supposed to be for works that benefit society). When they stop their bulying and start producing good product, then and only then will I start going back to the record and video stores.
By the way I am 37 years old, not 12 or under like you try to prtray the p2p community. I am also a computer programmer who makes a good living writing open source software. I am glad that Jon runs this site, because it is refreshing to get news that is not pumped out by big business and big government. Yes, it is slanted in many cases, but so is the “news” that comes from the lamestream media.
August 17th, 2005 at 10:11 pm
Maybe it was just me…. But P@Pnet was ofline for a while…. Maybe an hour or more….. SEE what happens when you mess with those Peer Impact Guys!!!!
LET ME MAKE YOU A PEER OFFER YOU CAN’T REFUSE!!!!!
Zathras
August 17th, 2005 at 10:12 pm
I do not believe that people are afraid of Peer Impact, as of more being not understanding of it. Such as the article discussing how Peer Impact is a pyramid scheme when it obviously is not. An intelligent person would know that a pyramid scheme has levels with one person above another. So this person recruits this person, who then trys to recruit people underneath them. In no place does this exist. Peer Impact offers a great new system of trying to reward its users to share. Which is also optional, as you can purchase songs without ever sharing them. But the rewards for sharing are not based on any sort of level, it is just if someone purchases a song and that person recieves a piece if not all. Thats the end, the person does not gain benefit if the person who just bought the song shares it to someone else.
So when posting a story, paraody or not, attempt to get the facts right. At least to maintain your creditibilty. I mean there are even more than this one point that is misleading in the article.
I have a great idea, try being apart of the solution not the problem, I for one would like this debacle of illegal filesharing to reach some sort of peace ant stability. Heres a great chance for peer 2 peer technology to be utilized and have a purpose to use it. Would people be more happy if you just bought a song over the network and shared it to others without some reward. I doubt it.
August 17th, 2005 at 10:25 pm
p2pnet was down for a brief period. We’d reached capacity and had to move the server into a new box : )
Cheers!
August 17th, 2005 at 10:32 pm
This is HYSTERICAL.
Just as predicted, the trolling “faithful” have come out in droves.
It’s as if someone insulted a MAC.
IT was a JOKE … but,
Whenever I see so many mindlessly champion something
( PeerImpact ) to the point that ANY criticism needs to be
squashed, I start to feel like something is very wrong
with it.
This bashing of the posting of a parody has pushed MY
mind away from PeerImpact, comepletely.
Not the article, the article was funny.
The postings of the rabid faithful is what drove my decision, one I will spread, paranoid bastidge that I am.
August 17th, 2005 at 10:52 pm
Could it be that people who post might just post for the fact they read something and aren’t peer impact “faithfuls”. Who is one minded to think that *gasp* others might have a different opinion who read the articles. Yet if you post in favor or disagree to the criticism, than by god you must be one of the faithfuls. So who is paranoid?
August 17th, 2005 at 11:24 pm
How is the fundraiser going? Did you receive my money order yet? cyberscan.
August 17th, 2005 at 11:41 pm
Drakes Parody was funny get it right
Unfortunally for p2pnet in my opinion their advertisers interests seem to have clouded their opinion on Peer Impact, do you see similar rants regarding Mashboxx(Blubster) or Peer Response(Morpheus) that will distribute Weed files along side freely traded materials and I’m sure the the search results for paid content on Morpheus will be given preference and be right at the top of the list just like Altnets Gold Files on Kazza .
August 17th, 2005 at 11:42 pm
Hi:
I’m going to give it a couple of days before I post the ‘final’ result, but I’m really happy with the fact that a lot of people think enough of the site to have actually contributed $ towards keeping it going : )
I haven’t received your MO yet, but I’ll let everyone who snail-mailed donations know when they arrive. It can take a while for mail to cross the border between the US and Canada : )
Cheers!
August 18th, 2005 at 12:11 am
Parodies are funny and some of this is funny, but alot of it is incorrect and not really funny. SNL makes fun of the president and a host of other people and sometimes it’s funny and sometimes it isn’t.
I think it’s great that someone took the time and effort to poke fun at Peer Impact.
August 18th, 2005 at 12:46 am
what were we talking about again
August 18th, 2005 at 12:51 am
just don’t cash it till 2052
jk. i plan to donate in a couple days though sorry but it won’t be a million ;/ maybe a million cents divided by 500
August 18th, 2005 at 12:52 am
Yup I know exactly who you are. Thanks for the heads up and I’ll make a splash page that will let people watch or skip the flash intro.
August 18th, 2005 at 1:44 am
You continue to prove my point.
Thanks
August 18th, 2005 at 2:25 am
You Must work for Mashboxx
August 18th, 2005 at 3:54 am
I hope that you have raised so much money that there is plenty left over. This site has earned it
August 18th, 2005 at 4:29 am
Anybody that roams the net posting as the group defending Peer Impact does, gives it a bad name simply by the process of constantly hounding and using every oppurtunity to do so. Any one that has to advertise for such a product leaves one with the idea that there is something wrong with the product. Since these Peer Impact trolls seem to be at all major p2p sites, it leaves me with a stronger impression by what is not said and by what is dodged in responces that there is yet again something fishy with the program.
By the responces I have seen at many sites, this is one that won’t get my money. There is too much clamour about it from the internet trolls to make it a truely good program. Good programs don’t need to be advertised so hard. Those that are good speak for themselves. The bad ones need folks to go pump it up and this is what we are seeing with the Peer Impact. It is also why Peer Impact advocates are running into so much static on the internet when they troll the virtues of the program.
I seriously doubt that they will be able to leave this post alone. It flies contary to what they wish to present and as such will leave challenge in their face to be responded to. Mysteriously all proport not to recieve any sort of compensation, so why are they trying so hard to convince those that have already gotten bitten by other schemes?
Again truely good products don’t need advertising.
August 18th, 2005 at 5:27 am
“In that sense it is not true p2p, nor do I care for the fakery involved with trying to pass itself off as such to those unsuspecting victims as a true p2p.”
Why is Peer Impact not a true p2p?
August 18th, 2005 at 5:44 am
Ive just been checking round this site and theres a lot of good stuff. All kinds and this article is just one. You have to admit some of these posts are funny as hell.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:22 pm
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