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	<title>Comments on: Apple versus everyone else</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6063#comment-19247</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is also bad considering that, eventually, all their product will be old &#038; make less money per download &#038; the new artist pool'll dry up because they push so much substandard "product." More than likely, down the road, back catalog sales will be the main source of income. This is a poor pricing model. The worst I've ever seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is also bad considering that, eventually, all their product will be old &#038; make less money per download &#038; the new artist pool&#8217;ll dry up because they push so much substandard &#8220;product.&#8221; More than likely, down the road, back catalog sales will be the main source of income. This is a poor pricing model. The worst I&#8217;ve ever seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6063#comment-19246</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6063#comment-19246</guid>
		<description>THAT stance by the recording industries is awfully hypocritical considering that in record stores CDs are not priced lower when they are older. They are all priced high. Then again, why would anyone expect their position to be logical, sane, good business judgment, ... What a dumb group of old white men!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THAT stance by the recording industries is awfully hypocritical considering that in record stores CDs are not priced lower when they are older. They are all priced high. Then again, why would anyone expect their position to be logical, sane, good business judgment, &#8230; What a dumb group of old white men!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6063#comment-19245</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 00:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6063#comment-19245</guid>
		<description>The IPOD is not a general purpose computing device.  It is designed with an integrated hardware based decoder chip which is HARD WIRED for certain formats.  This does not equal DRM.  It is simply a cost based limitation on the hardware, and a reasonable one at that if you actually research the history of the ipod.  
As such, ipod does not qualify as a general purpose computing device.  It is not "artifically constrained" in the same way the PSP is, and as such this is NOT drm.

General purpose computers serve as a means of making devices/formats interoperable.  It is not the job of apple to make their preferred music player WMA compatible.. to do so would mean apple would willingly and knowingly make their ipod sales and support subject to the whims of their main competitor, microsoft.  Would you put your product line under the control and influence of your competitors?   
The majority of the even mildly computer literate know this, and do not object.  The only reason this "objection" exists at all is because the cartels are pervaying it in press releases.

Did it ever occur to you that apple may be making a point (to the detriment even of their own sales!) that DRM inhibits fair use activities?  Apple is not the bad guy here.. in fact they are helping "our side" of the issues by making joe sixpack realize those files on so called copy protected disks are packed with this unreasonable restriction he's not heard about called "DRM".

apple should be lauded, not derided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The IPOD is not a general purpose computing device.  It is designed with an integrated hardware based decoder chip which is HARD WIRED for certain formats.  This does not equal DRM.  It is simply a cost based limitation on the hardware, and a reasonable one at that if you actually research the history of the ipod.<br />
As such, ipod does not qualify as a general purpose computing device.  It is not &#8220;artifically constrained&#8221; in the same way the PSP is, and as such this is NOT drm.</p>
<p>General purpose computers serve as a means of making devices/formats interoperable.  It is not the job of apple to make their preferred music player WMA compatible.. to do so would mean apple would willingly and knowingly make their ipod sales and support subject to the whims of their main competitor, microsoft.  Would you put your product line under the control and influence of your competitors?<br />
The majority of the even mildly computer literate know this, and do not object.  The only reason this &#8220;objection&#8221; exists at all is because the cartels are pervaying it in press releases.</p>
<p>Did it ever occur to you that apple may be making a point (to the detriment even of their own sales!) that DRM inhibits fair use activities?  Apple is not the bad guy here.. in fact they are helping &#8220;our side&#8221; of the issues by making joe sixpack realize those files on so called copy protected disks are packed with this unreasonable restriction he&#8217;s not heard about called &#8220;DRM&#8221;.</p>
<p>apple should be lauded, not derided.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6063#comment-19244</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 00:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6063#comment-19244</guid>
		<description>"“Mr. Jobs has so far refused to make the iTunes software compatible with music players from other manufacturers, and he has prevented the iPod from accepting music sold from competing services that use a Microsoft-designed music format.”"

Bull***, he didn't design his player with WMA audio decoders.  He uses aac format for his files, and has support for other more open formats like mp3 and wav, but WMA has been by it's nature proprietary.

The simple truth is the ipod's processors can't decode the format, just like a DVD player can't decode ogg or h.264.  It has nothing to do with DRM.

--Microsoft has refused to open the standard to allow proper legal support for it on non-windows platforms, and insists you install a very buggy mac version of windows media player to play them (windows media player has a nasty tendency to take over mac browsers like a virus, and cause kernel panics because of terrible api support)   
--Because of above fact, the support of windows media on it's competitor's platform would be a sell out by apple, allowing microsoft to use format hegemony to extort from any company trying to include media encoding software.  I for one would rather have format wars than see a terrible format like WMA under the control of an international monopoly become a truly accepted standard.
--Any mp3 player which supports wma is probably doing so thanks to hefty format license fees and contract terms.
--WMA format itself is a JOKE to those who actually know computing.  It is designed for interenet streaming, and is not properly optimized to perform at higher bitrates required for downloadable files.  This is part of the reason why mp3 is still ubiquitous.

“Mr. Jobs has so far refused to make the iTunes software compatible with music players from other manufacturers, and he has prevented the iPod from accepting music sold from competing services that use a Microsoft-designed music format.”

Oh.. so apple is evil because they didn't design their ipod with the ability to play windows media, a codec basically forced on people by monopolists at microsoft, but it's not evil for the REST of the industry from supporting aac audio, which they are probably refusing to do because of microsoft's notorious "incentive programs" by which they give their software out for pennies on the dollar if you promise not to use their competitor's formats.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“Mr. Jobs has so far refused to make the iTunes software compatible with music players from other manufacturers, and he has prevented the iPod from accepting music sold from competing services that use a Microsoft-designed music format.”&#8221;</p>
<p>Bull***, he didn&#8217;t design his player with WMA audio decoders.  He uses aac format for his files, and has support for other more open formats like mp3 and wav, but WMA has been by it&#8217;s nature proprietary.</p>
<p>The simple truth is the ipod&#8217;s processors can&#8217;t decode the format, just like a DVD player can&#8217;t decode ogg or h.264.  It has nothing to do with DRM.</p>
<p>&#8211;Microsoft has refused to open the standard to allow proper legal support for it on non-windows platforms, and insists you install a very buggy mac version of windows media player to play them (windows media player has a nasty tendency to take over mac browsers like a virus, and cause kernel panics because of terrible api support)<br />
&#8211;Because of above fact, the support of windows media on it&#8217;s competitor&#8217;s platform would be a sell out by apple, allowing microsoft to use format hegemony to extort from any company trying to include media encoding software.  I for one would rather have format wars than see a terrible format like WMA under the control of an international monopoly become a truly accepted standard.<br />
&#8211;Any mp3 player which supports wma is probably doing so thanks to hefty format license fees and contract terms.<br />
&#8211;WMA format itself is a JOKE to those who actually know computing.  It is designed for interenet streaming, and is not properly optimized to perform at higher bitrates required for downloadable files.  This is part of the reason why mp3 is still ubiquitous.</p>
<p>“Mr. Jobs has so far refused to make the iTunes software compatible with music players from other manufacturers, and he has prevented the iPod from accepting music sold from competing services that use a Microsoft-designed music format.”</p>
<p>Oh.. so apple is evil because they didn&#8217;t design their ipod with the ability to play windows media, a codec basically forced on people by monopolists at microsoft, but it&#8217;s not evil for the REST of the industry from supporting aac audio, which they are probably refusing to do because of microsoft&#8217;s notorious &#8220;incentive programs&#8221; by which they give their software out for pennies on the dollar if you promise not to use their competitor&#8217;s formats.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6063#comment-19243</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 00:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6063#comment-19243</guid>
		<description>An informative and interesting article.  Kudos to P2PNET for writing up such a wonderful piece.  I too am eager to see how this all plays out... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An informative and interesting article.  Kudos to P2PNET for writing up such a wonderful piece.  I too am eager to see how this all plays out&#8230; <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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