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	<title>Comments on: RIAA victim talks to p2pnet</title>
	<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134</link>
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		<title>By: Master Killer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-203954</link>
		<author>Master Killer</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-203954</guid>
		<description>My IP is 70.82.217.80

I'm Waiting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My IP is 70.82.217.80</p>
<p>I&#8217;m Waiting</p>
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		<title>By: Master Killer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-203952</link>
		<author>Master Killer</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-203952</guid>
		<description>I Dare any Company to Fuck with me

I'll fuckin XPLODE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Dare any Company to Fuck with me</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll fuckin XPLODE</p>
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		<title>By: Master Killer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-203947</link>
		<author>Master Killer</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-203947</guid>
		<description>Fuck Them All.....................even METALLICA Cocksuckers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck Them All&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;even METALLICA Cocksuckers</p>
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		<title>By: Master Killer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-203946</link>
		<author>Master Killer</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-203946</guid>
		<description>How did the RIAA know that Patricia Santangelo had downloaded these songs?

Snooping around ....Could it be a violation of PRIVACY!  


Case Closed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did the RIAA know that Patricia Santangelo had downloaded these songs?</p>
<p>Snooping around &#8230;.Could it be a violation of PRIVACY!  </p>
<p>Case Closed</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-135199</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-135199</guid>
		<description>whats so good abbout no limewire? gov is yuk e... blah blah blah  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whats so good abbout no limewire? gov is yuk e&#8230; blah blah blah  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-135198</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-135198</guid>
		<description>WTF COPYRIGHT IS SO GaY. i hate it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF COPYRIGHT IS SO GaY. i hate it</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-135157</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-135157</guid>
		<description>ole ole ole ole ole ole ole coryright is the worst. ole..... leo leo leo leo fu(k it.... i want limewire '^' wahhhhhhhh!!!!
*tears everywhere*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ole ole ole ole ole ole ole coryright is the worst. ole&#8230;.. leo leo leo leo fu(k it&#8230;. i want limewire &#8216;^&#8217; wahhhhhhhh!!!!<br />
*tears everywhere*</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-135156</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-135156</guid>
		<description>Jingle bells copyright sucks every1 knows that.... lah lah lah not listening to copyright cuz they mean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jingle bells copyright sucks every1 knows that&#8230;. lah lah lah not listening to copyright cuz they mean</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-130262</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-130262</guid>
		<description>From: Howard Dully
Date: 11/11/2006 11:55:23 AM
To: webform@paypal.com
Subject: Re: Protections/Privacy/Security (Routing Code:C840-L001-Q999-T4835-S111) QID129 (KMM31662429V17443L0KM) :kd2
      
Look, the last claim was filed because I couldn't get in touch with the seller and then contact was made and I was told my product didn't ship because it took 4 to 6 weeks to ship it from the drop shipper in Virginia.
 
That was 3 weeks ago or more. It has now been WELL past the 4 to 6 weeks and still nothing and no reply from the seller either.
 
Now your telling me that it's ok for them to rip me off for $1,200.00 because of some stupid policy that some idiot sat down and figured out one day when he had nothing better to do ?????
 
Watch how THIS will make you loose business I put this crap on every blog from here to eternity. Ebay and paypal wow what a bunch of crooks....  
 
I can also copy and paste this letter in my email and send it to all 200+ contacts in my address book.
 
" 
Thank you for taking the time to contact us with your concerns. I am happy
To assist you further."
 
ok I am waiting for you to assist me further.
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: webform@paypal.com
Date: 11/10/06 18:59:48
To: Barbara Dully
Subject: Re: Protections/Privacy/Security (Routing Code:C840-L001-Q999-T4835-S111) QID129 (KMM31662429V17443L0KM) :kd2
 
Dear Barbara Dully,
 
 
PayPal understands your concern and desire to resolve the dispute in
question. However, once a claim has been canceled, it is considered
resolved and cannot be reopened.
 
Should you have the need to file another claim in the future, we suggest
that you do not cancel the claim until you have received the merchandise or
a refund.
 
We encourage you to continue to work with the seller for a mutual
resolution. You can seek other avenues of resolution such as an auction
website if one was used to conduct this transaction. We value your business
and regret that you have had this experience. To avoid similar experiences
in the future, we recommend that you read our dispute resolution policy by
clicking on https://www.paypal.com/bcp You may also copy and paste the
entire link into the address bar.
 
If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us again.
 
Sincerely,
Andrew
Protection Services Department
PayPal, an eBay Company
  
   
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From: Howard Dully<br />
Date: 11/11/2006 11:55:23 AM<br />
To: <a href="mailto:webform@paypal.com">webform@paypal.com</a><br />
Subject: Re: Protections/Privacy/Security (Routing Code:C840-L001-Q999-T4835-S111) QID129 (KMM31662429V17443L0KM) :kd2</p>
<p>Look, the last claim was filed because I couldn&#8217;t get in touch with the seller and then contact was made and I was told my product didn&#8217;t ship because it took 4 to 6 weeks to ship it from the drop shipper in Virginia.</p>
<p>That was 3 weeks ago or more. It has now been WELL past the 4 to 6 weeks and still nothing and no reply from the seller either.</p>
<p>Now your telling me that it&#8217;s ok for them to rip me off for $1,200.00 because of some stupid policy that some idiot sat down and figured out one day when he had nothing better to do ?????</p>
<p>Watch how THIS will make you loose business I put this crap on every blog from here to eternity. Ebay and paypal wow what a bunch of crooks&#8230;.  </p>
<p>I can also copy and paste this letter in my email and send it to all 200+ contacts in my address book.</p>
<p>&#8221;<br />
Thank you for taking the time to contact us with your concerns. I am happy<br />
To assist you further.&#8221;</p>
<p>ok I am waiting for you to assist me further.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;-Original Message&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>From: <a href="mailto:webform@paypal.com">webform@paypal.com</a><br />
Date: 11/10/06 18:59:48<br />
To: Barbara Dully<br />
Subject: Re: Protections/Privacy/Security (Routing Code:C840-L001-Q999-T4835-S111) QID129 (KMM31662429V17443L0KM) :kd2</p>
<p>Dear Barbara Dully,</p>
<p>PayPal understands your concern and desire to resolve the dispute in<br />
question. However, once a claim has been canceled, it is considered<br />
resolved and cannot be reopened.</p>
<p>Should you have the need to file another claim in the future, we suggest<br />
that you do not cancel the claim until you have received the merchandise or<br />
a refund.</p>
<p>We encourage you to continue to work with the seller for a mutual<br />
resolution. You can seek other avenues of resolution such as an auction<br />
website if one was used to conduct this transaction. We value your business<br />
and regret that you have had this experience. To avoid similar experiences<br />
in the future, we recommend that you read our dispute resolution policy by<br />
clicking on <a href="https://www.paypal.com/bcp" rel="nofollow">https://www.paypal.com/bcp</a> You may also copy and paste the<br />
entire link into the address bar.</p>
<p>If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us again.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Andrew<br />
Protection Services Department<br />
PayPal, an eBay Company</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-129694</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 01:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-129694</guid>
		<description>Im sure these millionare companys have already purchased the judge and the prosicuter, So all i can say is she better have a team of top notch lawers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im sure these millionare companys have already purchased the judge and the prosicuter, So all i can say is she better have a team of top notch lawers.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-39344</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 05:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-39344</guid>
		<description>Can someone start a group to hire lobbiest.  Because most the US congessmen are already in the RIAA/MPAA's pockets</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone start a group to hire lobbiest.  Because most the US congessmen are already in the RIAA/MPAA&#8217;s pockets</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-27261</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 20:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-27261</guid>
		<description>1. Why cannot Mrs Santangelo press charges against the RIAA for illegally accessing her computer under various laws protecting against computer hacking?
2. If the RIAA simply used KAZAA to look at her computer to see what files are available then how do they know they were real music files and not just names of records? unless theyactually downloaded the files in which case would they not be violating the P2P user policy of downloading copyrighted material?
3. What evidence would they actualy have, if they took these files from her computer without her access they the evidence should not be allowed as it was illegally obtained, and again back to #1, would they not be in violation of the laws by accessing a computer without permission.
4. What about subpoening all the technology they use to infiltrate the computers, in this P2P her computer would be the server and they would have to track it by IP and MAC Address. 
5. Was there any specially developed software that goes into the suspected computer to search for files? again Illegal to do this without permission.

I am sure there are many other questions but why can't she take the fight to them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Why cannot Mrs Santangelo press charges against the RIAA for illegally accessing her computer under various laws protecting against computer hacking?<br />
2. If the RIAA simply used KAZAA to look at her computer to see what files are available then how do they know they were real music files and not just names of records? unless theyactually downloaded the files in which case would they not be violating the P2P user policy of downloading copyrighted material?<br />
3. What evidence would they actualy have, if they took these files from her computer without her access they the evidence should not be allowed as it was illegally obtained, and again back to #1, would they not be in violation of the laws by accessing a computer without permission.<br />
4. What about subpoening all the technology they use to infiltrate the computers, in this P2P her computer would be the server and they would have to track it by IP and MAC Address.<br />
5. Was there any specially developed software that goes into the suspected computer to search for files? again Illegal to do this without permission.</p>
<p>I am sure there are many other questions but why can&#8217;t she take the fight to them?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-27247</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-27247</guid>
		<description>How to donate to this woman?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to donate to this woman?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-27173</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 02:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-27173</guid>
		<description>Dear Mrs. Santangelo,

PLEASE let us know where to donate to your legal fund.  It is outrageous that a corporation of hooligans (the RIAA) would try to put the squeeze on you.  You have my deepest sympathy and support.

Best Regards,

C.D.
Menlo Park, CA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mrs. Santangelo,</p>
<p>PLEASE let us know where to donate to your legal fund.  It is outrageous that a corporation of hooligans (the RIAA) would try to put the squeeze on you.  You have my deepest sympathy and support.</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
<p>C.D.<br />
Menlo Park, CA</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-25906</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 22:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-25906</guid>
		<description>It strikes me that the bully-boy protection racket tactics employed by Organised Media might be used against them... 

They demand that those they randomly choose pay several thousand pounds/dollars etc. for something which they assume that the individul has breached copyright over [without proof] and then threaten to 'wreck their lives' if they don't. This is indeed tantamount to blackmail or demanding money with menaces. 

Ok, so the gloves are off. Time for a bit of quid pro quo methinks! 

If they are going to use gangster-style intimidation tactics to wreck peoples lives, perhaps we should adopt the same approach with some of the xxAA's staff/lawyers/management?  It's surely not that difficult to find out where they live, and would be fairly simple to apply a little bit of "personal" pressure to get them to lay off.  If they carry on, maybe somebody ought to threaten to send the boys round to have a word with their kneecaps........They would be able to avoid the issue if they would withdraw their spurious and heavy-handed suits. In the meantime, perhaps they may wish to get used to the idea of hospital food.......administered through a straw.

They might currently be hiding behind their big pal, the american judicial system, [is that an oxymoron?] but there are more of us than there are of them and one day, they will metaphorically get caught without their big mate!

I'd like to see them try to type some of those writs with broken fingers..... ;) 

Greedy bastards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It strikes me that the bully-boy protection racket tactics employed by Organised Media might be used against them&#8230; </p>
<p>They demand that those they randomly choose pay several thousand pounds/dollars etc. for something which they assume that the individul has breached copyright over [without proof] and then threaten to &#8216;wreck their lives&#8217; if they don&#8217;t. This is indeed tantamount to blackmail or demanding money with menaces. </p>
<p>Ok, so the gloves are off. Time for a bit of quid pro quo methinks! </p>
<p>If they are going to use gangster-style intimidation tactics to wreck peoples lives, perhaps we should adopt the same approach with some of the xxAA&#8217;s staff/lawyers/management?  It&#8217;s surely not that difficult to find out where they live, and would be fairly simple to apply a little bit of &#8220;personal&#8221; pressure to get them to lay off.  If they carry on, maybe somebody ought to threaten to send the boys round to have a word with their kneecaps&#8230;&#8230;..They would be able to avoid the issue if they would withdraw their spurious and heavy-handed suits. In the meantime, perhaps they may wish to get used to the idea of hospital food&#8230;&#8230;.administered through a straw.</p>
<p>They might currently be hiding behind their big pal, the american judicial system, [is that an oxymoron?] but there are more of us than there are of them and one day, they will metaphorically get caught without their big mate!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see them try to type some of those writs with broken fingers&#8230;.. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Greedy bastards.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-25723</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2005 19:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-25723</guid>
		<description>That's ridiculous.  An IP address can match someone else's as well.  They aren't all unique.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s ridiculous.  An IP address can match someone else&#8217;s as well.  They aren&#8217;t all unique.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-25618</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 11:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-25618</guid>
		<description>i wish death and poverty on all the RIAA..

but be happy

jesus loves you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wish death and poverty on all the RIAA..</p>
<p>but be happy</p>
<p>jesus loves you!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-20612</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2005 12:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-20612</guid>
		<description>I own a popular website that deals with filesharing and I have thousands of hits per day and a strong community. I guarantee I could generate a lot of cash for this court battle!! I also have 40+ affiliate sites who would post donation links. 

Battle them to the end, and we are all with you all the way! 

P2PUnited would get involved too if you contact them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I own a popular website that deals with filesharing and I have thousands of hits per day and a strong community. I guarantee I could generate a lot of cash for this court battle!! I also have 40+ affiliate sites who would post donation links. </p>
<p>Battle them to the end, and we are all with you all the way! </p>
<p>P2PUnited would get involved too if you contact them!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-19743</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-19743</guid>
		<description>i think you missed the point of the article, hesrself and her children are entirely responsible since they all claim not too own the account in question. Her computer was efectively hijacked by a friend who used the account without consent, hence the files being shared on her machine.

Her defence will need too include proof of this I guess.

Remember some reasonable doubt, that she knew anything about the account, which could reasonably constitute as a technical issue that at that time she would know little or nothing about, since many people have no exposure or interest in these matters. 
Part of the RIAA prosecution will need too disproove her ignorance of these issues at the time the account being used.

Remember this is a test case which could go against the industry, so just saying she was in the wrong prior to the case being heard is predudice to this case. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think you missed the point of the article, hesrself and her children are entirely responsible since they all claim not too own the account in question. Her computer was efectively hijacked by a friend who used the account without consent, hence the files being shared on her machine.</p>
<p>Her defence will need too include proof of this I guess.</p>
<p>Remember some reasonable doubt, that she knew anything about the account, which could reasonably constitute as a technical issue that at that time she would know little or nothing about, since many people have no exposure or interest in these matters.<br />
Part of the RIAA prosecution will need too disproove her ignorance of these issues at the time the account being used.</p>
<p>Remember this is a test case which could go against the industry, so just saying she was in the wrong prior to the case being heard is predudice to this case.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-19741</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 11:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6134#comment-19741</guid>
		<description>While I agree with most of your statment,do you have to include a lame political statment as well?It only diminishes what your trying to convey and turns less informed people off.
I personaly think George W is ok.And as an informed person who is able to make up my mind based on facts,not what the media passes for facts,choose to agree with you.Politics is devisive.We need to be of a like mind when battling grifters like the RIAA.We can't afford to loose anyone through personal poilitcs.
Respectfully,
Ricosauvie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree with most of your statment,do you have to include a lame political statment as well?It only diminishes what your trying to convey and turns less informed people off.<br />
I personaly think George W is ok.And as an informed person who is able to make up my mind based on facts,not what the media passes for facts,choose to agree with you.Politics is devisive.We need to be of a like mind when battling grifters like the RIAA.We can&#8217;t afford to loose anyone through personal poilitcs.<br />
Respectfully,<br />
Ricosauvie</p>
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