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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6310/comment-page-1#comment-22460</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 07:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0972514104/qid=1129599088/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-1395966-4260804?v=glance&amp;s=books&amp;n=507846</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0972514104/qid=1129599088/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-1395966-4260804?v=glance&#038;s=books&#038;n=507846" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0972514104/qid=1129599088/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-1395966-4260804?v=glance&#038;s=books&#038;n=507846</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6310/comment-page-1#comment-21825</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2005 21:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Wikie site on SLAPPs is great. I got a copy from Amazon of Be careful who you SLAPP the book that seems to be recommended and so far I must say I&#039;m quite pleased with the book.
Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Wikie site on SLAPPs is great. I got a copy from Amazon of Be careful who you SLAPP the book that seems to be recommended and so far I must say I&#8217;m quite pleased with the book.<br />
Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6310/comment-page-1#comment-20478</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been trying to push the Racketeering/Intimidation/Extortion/Harrassment/Abuse of Process/Monies by Menace etc angle since my case started way back at the beginning of this year (dvdr-core) but no-one (I even contacted Interpol on this as amost if not all of the above situations are a criminal offense) is interested in pursuing these angles at all.

A judge in the UK has even stated that what the actions of the MPAA amount to is Monies by Menace yet no authority is willing to prosecute the parties responsible.

The whole &quot;pay us $100 000 USD or we will sue you for millions&quot; methodology is clearly nothing less than extortion and should be treated accordingly.  Especially considering no judgement has _ever_ been made  in a court regarding P2P indexing.

It is about time the law started paying attention to the needs of the people and dealing with the criminal activities of the MPAA/RIAA instead of just allowing them to continue to make ordinary peoples live&#039;s a misery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been trying to push the Racketeering/Intimidation/Extortion/Harrassment/Abuse of Process/Monies by Menace etc angle since my case started way back at the beginning of this year (dvdr-core) but no-one (I even contacted Interpol on this as amost if not all of the above situations are a criminal offense) is interested in pursuing these angles at all.</p>
<p>A judge in the UK has even stated that what the actions of the MPAA amount to is Monies by Menace yet no authority is willing to prosecute the parties responsible.</p>
<p>The whole &#8220;pay us $100 000 USD or we will sue you for millions&#8221; methodology is clearly nothing less than extortion and should be treated accordingly.  Especially considering no judgement has _ever_ been made  in a court regarding P2P indexing.</p>
<p>It is about time the law started paying attention to the needs of the people and dealing with the criminal activities of the MPAA/RIAA instead of just allowing them to continue to make ordinary peoples live&#8217;s a misery.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6310/comment-page-1#comment-20460</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 06:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, i think if the law isnt working for the RIAA, it will be changed with enough money/campaign contributions to comply with the cartels needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, i think if the law isnt working for the RIAA, it will be changed with enough money/campaign contributions to comply with the cartels needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6310/comment-page-1#comment-20451</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 04:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Downloading really needs clarifying because there are all sorts of shades of grey  here. Consider that you could download from iTMS, napster, allofmp3.com, Kazaa or  soulseek. The end result would not be significantly different from an MP3 that you  had ripped yourself from a CD you bought or with a bit more effort an LP you  bought. 

I&#039;ve had advice that downloading in the UK is illegal. http://www.ecademy.com/ node.php?id=35200 In fact ripping is also illegal given the copyright notice on  the back of most CDs. I&#039;m not sure I believe this and again there is no case law  to back it up and some case law around VCRs that may apply. 

The essence here is that simply having a large collection of music on your hard  disk is not proof of much of anything. Even having it in a directory that is  shared doesn&#039;t prove much of anything either. You would think, wouldn&#039;t you that  the RIAA would actually have to have proof of actual uploading rather than simply  the presence of the files. If, of course, uploading to somebody else is actually  illegal. 

BTW. I posted this earlier
http://www.ecademy.com/node.php?id=11259
which tries to explore the grey areas. Now here at http://p2pnet.net/story/6314 </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Downloading really needs clarifying because there are all sorts of shades of grey  here. Consider that you could download from iTMS, napster, allofmp3.com, Kazaa or  soulseek. The end result would not be significantly different from an MP3 that you  had ripped yourself from a CD you bought or with a bit more effort an LP you  bought. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had advice that downloading in the UK is illegal. <a href="http://www.ecademy.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ecademy.com/</a> node.php?id=35200 In fact ripping is also illegal given the copyright notice on  the back of most CDs. I&#8217;m not sure I believe this and again there is no case law  to back it up and some case law around VCRs that may apply. </p>
<p>The essence here is that simply having a large collection of music on your hard  disk is not proof of much of anything. Even having it in a directory that is  shared doesn&#8217;t prove much of anything either. You would think, wouldn&#8217;t you that  the RIAA would actually have to have proof of actual uploading rather than simply  the presence of the files. If, of course, uploading to somebody else is actually  illegal. </p>
<p>BTW. I posted this earlier<br />
<a href="http://www.ecademy.com/node.php?id=11259" rel="nofollow">http://www.ecademy.com/node.php?id=11259</a><br />
which tries to explore the grey areas. Now here at <a href="http://p2pnet.net/story/6314" rel="nofollow">http://p2pnet.net/story/6314</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6310/comment-page-1#comment-20423</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&quot;If I bought an album, cd, or cassette tape from someone, can I legally download the music? Put another way, if I bought a Led Zeppelin album in the 70&#039;s, can I legally download the music so I have a digital recording of something I purchased in another format?&quot;

&quot;&quot;Unclear,&quot; says Jason Schultz at the EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation) &quot;but it&#039;s probably one of the stronger cases for fair use if you only download one copy of the album to match the one copy you bought. &quot;

 Deliberately unclear :) .......
 The RIAA had the PERFECT opportunity to have this very issued &quot;clarified&quot; by a Judge in the Cecilia Gonzalez case.
Instead, they DROPPED more than one thousand songs from their &quot;infringement list&quot; after discovering that Cecilia owned purchased copies of them. That is why the final tally was only 30 &quot;counts&quot; of infringement. 
 Now the RIAA supporters can still say it&#039;s &quot;Illegal&quot; although it hasn&#039;t been tested. Heh, it&#039;s the same way they claim &quot;victories&quot; for settlements.
 It almost appears that the RIAA is worried enough about this that they wish to avoid having a Judge set a precedent ;)
 That&#039;s kinda how the Gozalez &quot;Loss&quot; turned into a small victory. What they wouldn&#039;t sue for was just as important.


Dreddsnik
Boycott-RIAA.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;If I bought an album, cd, or cassette tape from someone, can I legally download the music? Put another way, if I bought a Led Zeppelin album in the 70&#8217;s, can I legally download the music so I have a digital recording of something I purchased in another format?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;Unclear,&#8221; says Jason Schultz at the EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation) &#8220;but it&#8217;s probably one of the stronger cases for fair use if you only download one copy of the album to match the one copy you bought. &#8221;</p>
<p> Deliberately unclear <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8230;&#8230;.<br />
 The RIAA had the PERFECT opportunity to have this very issued &#8220;clarified&#8221; by a Judge in the Cecilia Gonzalez case.<br />
Instead, they DROPPED more than one thousand songs from their &#8220;infringement list&#8221; after discovering that Cecilia owned purchased copies of them. That is why the final tally was only 30 &#8220;counts&#8221; of infringement.<br />
 Now the RIAA supporters can still say it&#8217;s &#8220;Illegal&#8221; although it hasn&#8217;t been tested. Heh, it&#8217;s the same way they claim &#8220;victories&#8221; for settlements.<br />
 It almost appears that the RIAA is worried enough about this that they wish to avoid having a Judge set a precedent <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
 That&#8217;s kinda how the Gozalez &#8220;Loss&#8221; turned into a small victory. What they wouldn&#8217;t sue for was just as important.</p>
<p>Dreddsnik<br />
Boycott-RIAA.com</p>
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