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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6362/comment-page-1#comment-20979</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 06:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mean to disparage niteshdw. I visited their EFnet channel, and they seem to be pretty cool people. I&#039;m just reporting the facts. I used the ban trackers list from http://www.mybittorrent.com/bantrackers.txt. Maybe they were innocent and got caught in the net of bad trackers? I don&#039;t know. I told them of my findings, the ball&#039;s in their court now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mean to disparage niteshdw. I visited their EFnet channel, and they seem to be pretty cool people. I&#8217;m just reporting the facts. I used the ban trackers list from <a href="http://www.mybittorrent.com/bantrackers.txt" rel="nofollow">http://www.mybittorrent.com/bantrackers.txt</a>. Maybe they were innocent and got caught in the net of bad trackers? I don&#8217;t know. I told them of my findings, the ball&#8217;s in their court now.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6362/comment-page-1#comment-20892</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;206.81.133.67
Skipped because of intresting things happening. See above. &quot;

2 domains found on 206.81.133.67
Showing all 2.

Website
www.Niteshdw.com
www.Niteshdw.net

Hasn&#039;t niteshdw been around for a long time now?  Are you sure this is one of the IPs?  Which other domain reversed to this ip?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;206.81.133.67<br />
Skipped because of intresting things happening. See above. &#8221;</p>
<p>2 domains found on 206.81.133.67<br />
Showing all 2.</p>
<p>Website<br />
<a href="http://www.Niteshdw.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.Niteshdw.com</a><br />
<a href="http://www.Niteshdw.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.Niteshdw.net</a></p>
<p>Hasn&#8217;t niteshdw been around for a long time now?  Are you sure this is one of the IPs?  Which other domain reversed to this ip?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6362/comment-page-1#comment-20849</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 03:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the number of seeders looks too high  and in the comments people complain it stalls at  97% , then you have a fake. The interesting thing is that this looks like an insider&#039;s work, like someone who knows well how torrents work. An efficient system to comment on the files will help a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the number of seeders looks too high  and in the comments people complain it stalls at  97% , then you have a fake. The interesting thing is that this looks like an insider&#8217;s work, like someone who knows well how torrents work. An efficient system to comment on the files will help a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6362/comment-page-1#comment-20816</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 23:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that perfora.net provides email services to customers using 1and1.com for webhosting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that perfora.net provides email services to customers using 1and1.com for webhosting.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6362/comment-page-1#comment-20771</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 06:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To spot these fakes really. They had quite a few on torrentspy.com not long ago.

The primary means of detecting fakes (assuming video files):-

(1) The torrent contains only one file which is compressed to .zip or .rar . This screams fake straight away. Most real torrents are multi-part compressed files or just open .avi&#039;s (which are already compressed)

(2) Rediculously high seed/downloader numbers, usually 2000/3000 +.
Although some real torrents can achieve high numbers, generally they never get this high for seeders. 

(3) Remember to look at the user comments associated with it on the torrent site. These usually indicate pretty fast if it&#039;s a fake. 
Such comments usually retort:-

 (a) Download percentage will not go any higher than 90-99% (ie. no one has any of those parts)
 (b) Speed is extremely slow, even though high numbers of reported peers/seeders
 
(4) And finally you can check the network information for the tracker to confirm if it&#039;s a faker. First copy the tracker domain/ip address from the torrent site. This will usually be in the form :-

http://tracker.sladinki007.net:6500/announce

Now you only need to copy the first part of this address up to the colon character &quot;:&quot; but not including it. For this example would be &quot;tracker.sladinki007.net&quot;. Then go to this site http://www.all-nettools.com/toolbox . In the first textbox for smart whois, paste that address you copied and press enter or click go.

This should give you the network info for this tracker. I found most of the fakers on torrentspy.com were from the TrendStep network, which is known for it&#039;s involvement with fakes and mpaa. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To spot these fakes really. They had quite a few on torrentspy.com not long ago.</p>
<p>The primary means of detecting fakes (assuming video files):-</p>
<p>(1) The torrent contains only one file which is compressed to .zip or .rar . This screams fake straight away. Most real torrents are multi-part compressed files or just open .avi&#8217;s (which are already compressed)</p>
<p>(2) Rediculously high seed/downloader numbers, usually 2000/3000 +.<br />
Although some real torrents can achieve high numbers, generally they never get this high for seeders. </p>
<p>(3) Remember to look at the user comments associated with it on the torrent site. These usually indicate pretty fast if it&#8217;s a fake.<br />
Such comments usually retort:-</p>
<p> (a) Download percentage will not go any higher than 90-99% (ie. no one has any of those parts)<br />
 (b) Speed is extremely slow, even though high numbers of reported peers/seeders</p>
<p>(4) And finally you can check the network information for the tracker to confirm if it&#8217;s a faker. First copy the tracker domain/ip address from the torrent site. This will usually be in the form :-</p>
<p><a href="http://tracker.sladinki007.net:6500/announce" rel="nofollow">http://tracker.sladinki007.net:6500/announce</a></p>
<p>Now you only need to copy the first part of this address up to the colon character &#8220;:&#8221; but not including it. For this example would be &#8220;tracker.sladinki007.net&#8221;. Then go to this site <a href="http://www.all-nettools.com/toolbox" rel="nofollow">http://www.all-nettools.com/toolbox</a> . In the first textbox for smart whois, paste that address you copied and press enter or click go.</p>
<p>This should give you the network info for this tracker. I found most of the fakers on torrentspy.com were from the TrendStep network, which is known for it&#8217;s involvement with fakes and mpaa.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6362/comment-page-1#comment-20763</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 03:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you go to the Slyck article, you&#039;ll see a text file listing a bunch of bad tracker URLs.

After DNSing all those URLs, you get 5 IPs.
85.64.70.229*
71.130.203.111*
71.132.6.18*
206.81.133.67**
69.236.99.244
----------------------
These 5 IPs you should add to your PeerGuardian blocklist (If you don&#039;t know what that is, you should get it at http://peerguardian.sourceforge.net) AND to your firewall because sometimes, trackers will listen on port 80, and if you have Block HTTP unchecked in PeerGuardian, PG will let them through. The firewall will block them all, at whatever port/communication you try with it. To test your firewall, just point your favorite browser to these IPs.

Those IPs are not in the Blitzed Open Proxy Monitor (http://opm.blitzed.org) database, nor do scans on common proxy ports (80, 8080, 8000, 3128, 1080, 23, 6588) reveal anything.

More information with the DNS&#039;s and junk at the bottom.
----------------------
*
I starred 85.64.70.229, 71.130.203.111, and 71.132.6.18 because if you point your web browser to them (before you block em), they return a page that says:
[begin]
your file may exist elsewhere in the universe
but alas, not here
[end]
----------------------
**
I double-starred 206.81.133.67 because something intresting was happening with it.
If you try to access 206.81.133.67 on your web browser, you get pointed to a web site at http://tracker.thompson-web.org/.
* Dns resolved 206.81.133.67 to niteshdw.com
* Dns resolved niteshdw.com to 206.81.133.67

If you try to resolve tracker.thompson-web.org, you get an IP, and if you resolve that you get perfora.net. A google of &quot;perfora.net&quot; reveals nothing that I can decipher. Perhaps somebody with more knowledge can help me out on this.
* Dns resolved tracker.thompson-web.org to 82.165.192.100
* Dns resolved 82.165.192.100 to perfora.net
* Dns unable to resolve perfora.net
----------------------
DNS Work:
85.64.70.229
* Dns resolved 85.64.70.229 to 85-64-70-229.barak-online.net

* Dns resolved distan.servecounterstrike.com to 85.64.70.229
* Dns resolved freevideo.no-ip.info to 85.64.70.229
* Dns resolved zorba.zapto.org to 85.64.70.229
* Dns resolved fuf.zapto.org to 85.64.70.229
* Dns resolved tzar.servecounterstrike.com to 85.64.70.229
* Dns resolved whypay.servebeer.com to 85.64.70.229
* Dns resolved m0vies.servep2p.com to 85.64.70.229
* Dns resolved matha.sytes.net to 85.64.70.229
* Dns resolved tracker.workisboring.com to 85.64.70.229
* Dns resolved freemovies.serveftp.com to 85.64.70.229

71.130.203.111
* Dns resolved 71.130.203.111 to adsl-71-130-203-111.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net

* Dns resolved chech.servequake.com to 71.130.203.111
* Dns resolved kur.servegame.com to 71.130.203.111
* Dns resolved nia.servehttp.com to 71.130.203.111
* Dns resolved torrentsource.servemp3.com to 71.130.203.111
* Dns resolved mpaa.servehttp.com to 71.130.203.111
* Dns resolved nopay.no-ip.info to 71.130.203.111
* Dns resolved prince2.bounceme.net to 71.130.203.111
* Dns resolved startracker.geekgalaxy.com to 71.130.203.111
* Dns resolved cash.servequake.com to 71.130.203.111
* Dns resolved gleneagle.damnserver.com to 71.130.203.111
* Dns resolved mpaa.servehttp.com to 71.130.203.111

71.132.6.18
* Dns resolved 71.132.6.18 to adsl-71-132-6-18.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

* Dns resolved zesty.no-ip.info to 71.132.6.18
* Dns resolved coolserver.servecounterstrike.com to 71.132.6.18
* Dns resolved tracker101.no-ip.info to 71.132.6.18
* Dns resolved q1.sytes.net to 71.132.6.18
* Dns resolved mishmish.servemp3.com to 71.132.6.18
* Dns resolved only-guiness.servebeer.com to 71.132.6.18
* Dns resolved gruzia.zapto.org to 71.132.6.18

206.81.133.67
Skipped because of intresting things happening. See above.

69.236.99.244
* Dns resolved 69.236.99.244 to adsl-69-236-99-244.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net

* Dns resolved waikiki.net-freaks.com to 69.236.99.244</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you go to the Slyck article, you&#8217;ll see a text file listing a bunch of bad tracker URLs.</p>
<p>After DNSing all those URLs, you get 5 IPs.<br />
85.64.70.229*<br />
71.130.203.111*<br />
71.132.6.18*<br />
206.81.133.67**<br />
69.236.99.244<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
These 5 IPs you should add to your PeerGuardian blocklist (If you don&#8217;t know what that is, you should get it at <a href="http://peerguardian.sourceforge.net)" rel="nofollow">http://peerguardian.sourceforge.net)</a> AND to your firewall because sometimes, trackers will listen on port 80, and if you have Block HTTP unchecked in PeerGuardian, PG will let them through. The firewall will block them all, at whatever port/communication you try with it. To test your firewall, just point your favorite browser to these IPs.</p>
<p>Those IPs are not in the Blitzed Open Proxy Monitor (<a href="http://opm.blitzed.org" rel="nofollow">http://opm.blitzed.org</a>) database, nor do scans on common proxy ports (80, 8080, 8000, 3128, 1080, 23, 6588) reveal anything.</p>
<p>More information with the DNS&#8217;s and junk at the bottom.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
*<br />
I starred 85.64.70.229, 71.130.203.111, and 71.132.6.18 because if you point your web browser to them (before you block em), they return a page that says:<br />
[begin]<br />
your file may exist elsewhere in the universe<br />
but alas, not here<br />
[end]<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
**<br />
I double-starred 206.81.133.67 because something intresting was happening with it.<br />
If you try to access 206.81.133.67 on your web browser, you get pointed to a web site at <a href="http://tracker.thompson-web.org/" rel="nofollow">http://tracker.thompson-web.org/</a>.<br />
* Dns resolved 206.81.133.67 to niteshdw.com<br />
* Dns resolved niteshdw.com to 206.81.133.67</p>
<p>If you try to resolve tracker.thompson-web.org, you get an IP, and if you resolve that you get perfora.net. A google of &#8220;perfora.net&#8221; reveals nothing that I can decipher. Perhaps somebody with more knowledge can help me out on this.<br />
* Dns resolved tracker.thompson-web.org to 82.165.192.100<br />
* Dns resolved 82.165.192.100 to perfora.net<br />
* Dns unable to resolve perfora.net<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
DNS Work:<br />
85.64.70.229<br />
* Dns resolved 85.64.70.229 to 85-64-70-229.barak-online.net</p>
<p>* Dns resolved distan.servecounterstrike.com to 85.64.70.229<br />
* Dns resolved freevideo.no-ip.info to 85.64.70.229<br />
* Dns resolved zorba.zapto.org to 85.64.70.229<br />
* Dns resolved fuf.zapto.org to 85.64.70.229<br />
* Dns resolved tzar.servecounterstrike.com to 85.64.70.229<br />
* Dns resolved whypay.servebeer.com to 85.64.70.229<br />
* Dns resolved m0vies.servep2p.com to 85.64.70.229<br />
* Dns resolved matha.sytes.net to 85.64.70.229<br />
* Dns resolved tracker.workisboring.com to 85.64.70.229<br />
* Dns resolved freemovies.serveftp.com to 85.64.70.229</p>
<p>71.130.203.111<br />
* Dns resolved 71.130.203.111 to adsl-71-130-203-111.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net</p>
<p>* Dns resolved chech.servequake.com to 71.130.203.111<br />
* Dns resolved kur.servegame.com to 71.130.203.111<br />
* Dns resolved nia.servehttp.com to 71.130.203.111<br />
* Dns resolved torrentsource.servemp3.com to 71.130.203.111<br />
* Dns resolved mpaa.servehttp.com to 71.130.203.111<br />
* Dns resolved nopay.no-ip.info to 71.130.203.111<br />
* Dns resolved prince2.bounceme.net to 71.130.203.111<br />
* Dns resolved startracker.geekgalaxy.com to 71.130.203.111<br />
* Dns resolved cash.servequake.com to 71.130.203.111<br />
* Dns resolved gleneagle.damnserver.com to 71.130.203.111<br />
* Dns resolved mpaa.servehttp.com to 71.130.203.111</p>
<p>71.132.6.18<br />
* Dns resolved 71.132.6.18 to adsl-71-132-6-18.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net</p>
<p>* Dns resolved zesty.no-ip.info to 71.132.6.18<br />
* Dns resolved coolserver.servecounterstrike.com to 71.132.6.18<br />
* Dns resolved tracker101.no-ip.info to 71.132.6.18<br />
* Dns resolved q1.sytes.net to 71.132.6.18<br />
* Dns resolved mishmish.servemp3.com to 71.132.6.18<br />
* Dns resolved only-guiness.servebeer.com to 71.132.6.18<br />
* Dns resolved gruzia.zapto.org to 71.132.6.18</p>
<p>206.81.133.67<br />
Skipped because of intresting things happening. See above.</p>
<p>69.236.99.244<br />
* Dns resolved 69.236.99.244 to adsl-69-236-99-244.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net</p>
<p>* Dns resolved waikiki.net-freaks.com to 69.236.99.244</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6362/comment-page-1#comment-20762</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 03:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well then, in layman&#039;s terms, think of it this way.

Remember when you used Kazaa, and you&#039;d download a file, and when you&#039;d listen to it, it would be total static, buzz, and general annoyance? That&#039;s basically what&#039;s happening to these torrent files. Except instead of the really annoying static, the download just stops at 97 and 98%, wasting hours of your valuable time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well then, in layman&#8217;s terms, think of it this way.</p>
<p>Remember when you used Kazaa, and you&#8217;d download a file, and when you&#8217;d listen to it, it would be total static, buzz, and general annoyance? That&#8217;s basically what&#8217;s happening to these torrent files. Except instead of the really annoying static, the download just stops at 97 and 98%, wasting hours of your valuable time.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6362/comment-page-1#comment-20760</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 02:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should check what movies have been released by what groups, and try to check the NFO that should come with it. Most of the time, groups release in 15mb or 50mb rars. There are also other telltale signs of official releases. You just have to know these things. Practice makes perfect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should check what movies have been released by what groups, and try to check the NFO that should come with it. Most of the time, groups release in 15mb or 50mb rars. There are also other telltale signs of official releases. You just have to know these things. Practice makes perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6362/comment-page-1#comment-20759</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 02:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was greek to me what you said. tks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was greek to me what you said. tks</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6362/comment-page-1#comment-20745</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2005 23:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And let&#039;s not forget to send the responsible party for that IP address a fake DCMA take down notice to take the fake torrent down off the fake tracker.

Seriously though, this has got to be about the dumbest way of trying to hose Bit Torrent.  Every avid leecher with a modicum of experience recognizes the names of the more popular real trackers and if all of the sudden there&#039;s dozens of new ones, its going to be regarded with suspicion.  If a torrent is showing 300 seeders and 2000 leechers and only 3 seeds and 20 leechers appear to be connectable, that&#039;s going to raise even more skepticism.

The only thing this is going to do is clog up things for those who use RSS or some other kind of automated feed to populate their current torrents.  In short order default deny filtering will get put in place and the fakes will be ignored.

I hope this wasn&#039;t Movielabs first project, because if it was, it was a total bomb.  Box Office Barf-O!  The headline in Variety will read:

Crackjack Hackers&#039; Blockers Whack Tinseltown&#039;s Fake-O Trackers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And let&#8217;s not forget to send the responsible party for that IP address a fake DCMA take down notice to take the fake torrent down off the fake tracker.</p>
<p>Seriously though, this has got to be about the dumbest way of trying to hose Bit Torrent.  Every avid leecher with a modicum of experience recognizes the names of the more popular real trackers and if all of the sudden there&#8217;s dozens of new ones, its going to be regarded with suspicion.  If a torrent is showing 300 seeders and 2000 leechers and only 3 seeds and 20 leechers appear to be connectable, that&#8217;s going to raise even more skepticism.</p>
<p>The only thing this is going to do is clog up things for those who use RSS or some other kind of automated feed to populate their current torrents.  In short order default deny filtering will get put in place and the fakes will be ignored.</p>
<p>I hope this wasn&#8217;t Movielabs first project, because if it was, it was a total bomb.  Box Office Barf-O!  The headline in Variety will read:</p>
<p>Crackjack Hackers&#8217; Blockers Whack Tinseltown&#8217;s Fake-O Trackers</p>
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