PeerGuardian regains control
p2p news / p2pnet:- Goodbye Methlabs, hello Phoenix Labs.
That’s the latest in the unfortunate PeerGuardian controversy which had PG users worried that their favourite anti-cartel application was down the tubes.
p2pnet has just heard from PeerGuardian founder Tim Leonard who says he doesn’t want to go into detail about why Cerberius handed over the domains, “other than to say that it was legitimate and that it appears this may be the end of our problems”.
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Last night I spoke with Cerberius and he agreed to pass ownership of the domains to myself.
The domains transfered included:
PEERGUARDIAN2.NET
BLOCKLIST.ORG
METHLABS.ORG
PEERGUARDIAN2.ORG
I’m grateful that Cerb has handed the domains back to the rightful owner(s) and am urging p2p sites/portals/etc to remove any personal details relating to him and his ‘offline-identity’, especially postal addresses, phone numbers, etc. (It appears many people were annoyed about what happened!)
I won’t say it was a simple misunderstanding, because it wasn’t. But he has vindicated himself by cooperating with us and I believe it’s best for all concerned that we just let this fade into history from this point.
The domains appear to be securely in my control now, though I am waiting to hear back from the registrar about some other enquiries that follow-on from previous communications I’ve had with them.
It appears everything is heading back to normal thanks to Cerb’s decision give us our domains back.
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September 27th, 2005 at 6:59 pm
So, does this mean that blocklist updates are safe again? I currently still have PG2 blocked in my software firewall, and have ever since news of this first broke. Reagrdless, good news to hear since I really like PG2. It’s a well designed and useful piece of free open source software that all p2p users should use and support.
September 27th, 2005 at 7:37 pm
It’s probably best for pg2 users to wait a while – give Tim and his crew a chance to check over everything. They (the real pg team) will probably post something about the lists.
September 27th, 2005 at 9:54 pm
From MilesApart:
Yes, give it a bit of time for things to settle down as we get re-organized. Version 6b includes list automatically from sourceforge. I’m sure there will be a Version 6c released soon that will go back to blocklist.org once they are under full control again.
September 27th, 2005 at 10:24 pm
I’m the original poster. Just wanted to say thank you for your replies. I guess I will just continue blocking PG2 from updating until I see something official on their new Phoenix site then. Still glad about todays news though regardless. Take care all you fellow P2Pnetters!
September 27th, 2005 at 11:57 pm
saying he “vindicated himself” means that he somehow justified his actions, defended and proved himself to be in the right.
are the PG2 people saying that cerbeius is “absolved from all blame”?
i don’t know the facts – because they aren’t posted here (and i’m really not interested in the BS baby-like mudlinging matches) – but i believe ‘vindicated’ is the wrong word.
why don’t they post all the real facts here so anyone who is interested can know the real story? from what i’ve read, cerb was in the wrong and so he can never be ‘vindicated’.
September 28th, 2005 at 12:09 am
I think there was a little reference as to why it happened. I believe that cerberius caught a lot of flak from Peer Guardian users especially with his contact info out there. more than he expected and that helped him decide to do the right thing. As far as the rest of it, well I really don’t care if I know the details as long as the wrong has been undone.
September 28th, 2005 at 2:15 am
Oh no, he’s not Vindicated…just forgiven.
Here’s a quote from John F. Kennedy “Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names”
September 28th, 2005 at 4:27 am
I agree. Now that things can finally get back on track, the whole situation needs to be left in the past. But not forgoten b/c it is the mistakes that are made that “we” learn the most from. “we” as in all people in general. Which is one reason that history is taught in school. So stuff that happened once may be avoided in the future.
September 28th, 2005 at 9:52 pm
I was amazed at the net responce. I was also amazed by the amount of public mudslinging going on. While I agree that the public needs to know stuff like this much of it was carried out in the heat of the moment and that part really got out of hand.
Tim has decided to put the best face on it and I can’t agree more. That is not to say all is forgiven, only that as far as the public goes it is better not to air dirty laundry.
I commend the internet community for the sticking together and just moving to the temporary site. I never understood what would be gained in the long haul by the taking of the methlabs site without the programmers. One would not be able to issue new versions and at some point an update/revision would be necessary. In the meantime, motives and security (without knowing the motives) would be in question.
Better it dies the quiet death.
September 29th, 2005 at 7:59 am
Its not important how/why he decided to give the domains back. He was ‘forgiven’ because he gave them back before it got ugly, but he wasn’t forgiven so that he will be back on staff or with any power…. Phoenix Labs is open, and won’t be baning cerb from participating. I’m sure he’ll be back soon.
If your enemy “gives up”.. you don’t smear it to the world what happened, instead be mature adults and let it go down as ‘he gave up’ and nothing more.
mature people walk away from a victory without furthur infliction of pain on the ‘opponent’. Maybe even help them out afterwards.
~stedios