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		<title>By: tt</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6818/comment-page-1#comment-978729</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, they may succeed.  We have to comply with HDCP, which is already causing alot of eary adopters of Blu-ray much grief.  Noone records off the HDMI output anyway.  As someone just said, HDCP is not just a dumb DRM scheme, but also a dumb implementation of it.  With the combination of off brand tv&#039;s not working with that standard, and being at version 13[Media Key Block] already for the on disc encryption, sales are bound to remain stagnant.  DRM prevents sales and also make it harder to tell if your machine is broken.  Keep all your old Blu-ray movies that used to work on your machine, so you can tell if you have a bad lens. HDCP also may cause you to think your HDMI connection on your TV is broken, when your only problem might just be a non compliant HDMI TV input, and yes, they exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, they may succeed.  We have to comply with HDCP, which is already causing alot of eary adopters of Blu-ray much grief.  Noone records off the HDMI output anyway.  As someone just said, HDCP is not just a dumb DRM scheme, but also a dumb implementation of it.  With the combination of off brand tv&#8217;s not working with that standard, and being at version 13[Media Key Block] already for the on disc encryption, sales are bound to remain stagnant.  DRM prevents sales and also make it harder to tell if your machine is broken.  Keep all your old Blu-ray movies that used to work on your machine, so you can tell if you have a bad lens. HDCP also may cause you to think your HDMI connection on your TV is broken, when your only problem might just be a non compliant HDMI TV input, and yes, they exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6818/comment-page-1#comment-23383</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does seem odd, but Hollywierd and Organized criMusic seem to be doing everything in their power to muck up their own markets. All this strange stuff taken together is rather scary. The &quot;anti-terrorism&quot; legislation being considered in Australia, the lock-down mentality that is creeping into media and computer technology, RFID chips, cell phone tracking, UK government officials pushing for data retention on the net,  etc, etc, etc...  A paranoid person could come to the conclusion that some nefarious secret sect of ultra powerful people was setting us up for a global takeover. Where did I put that tinfoil hat?    </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does seem odd, but Hollywierd and Organized criMusic seem to be doing everything in their power to muck up their own markets. All this strange stuff taken together is rather scary. The &#8220;anti-terrorism&#8221; legislation being considered in Australia, the lock-down mentality that is creeping into media and computer technology, RFID chips, cell phone tracking, UK government officials pushing for data retention on the net,  etc, etc, etc&#8230;  A paranoid person could come to the conclusion that some nefarious secret sect of ultra powerful people was setting us up for a global takeover. Where did I put that tinfoil hat?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6818/comment-page-1#comment-23346</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 11:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anything will, this will do it.  Personally, I don&#039;t think that they will ever get this to pass because the tech sector will come up to the plate and scream *NO WAY*

And about our right to bear arms, it will take a constitutional amendment to stamp that out.  Do you know of anyone who would vote for that?  I certianly don&#039;t.  It&#039;s just like people saying that by the 2008 elections, the Republicans will find a way to get the terminator into the oval office.  Good luck as that is also in the constitution that the President of the US must be a natural born citizen.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anything will, this will do it.  Personally, I don&#8217;t think that they will ever get this to pass because the tech sector will come up to the plate and scream *NO WAY*</p>
<p>And about our right to bear arms, it will take a constitutional amendment to stamp that out.  Do you know of anyone who would vote for that?  I certianly don&#8217;t.  It&#8217;s just like people saying that by the 2008 elections, the Republicans will find a way to get the terminator into the oval office.  Good luck as that is also in the constitution that the President of the US must be a natural born citizen.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6818/comment-page-1#comment-23345</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 11:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like what alot of us do already with region free/selectible DVD players?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like what alot of us do already with region free/selectible DVD players?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6818/comment-page-1#comment-23342</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 10:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How would this technology apply to dvd copy ? 

I suppose the gist of this arguement centers around digital tv signals. 

They say that the old tried and true analog tv set that are imported from china and sold at walmart will be the thing of the past. 

So how can a watermark be used to keep people from cooking hollywood movies on their computers ? 

Something that would even make slysoft and dvdfab worthless?

In theory the only way the cartels would be able to do this if every motherboard that was ever meant for sale in the united states had a chip installed on the motherboard that would detect  a water mark or checksum on the dvd and prevent the dvd from being copied.

It might be a derivative of the technology involved in fingerprint indentication.

I see this in action where i work at a military base where fingerprint indentication is used to check in and out vehicle keys in a computer driven key storage system.

This might sound like a very elaborate and expensive proposition.

I want to ask the rest of you Would this be technically feasible?

As it stands today a css encoded dvd will prevent the operating system and the dvd burner from reading the dvd vob files.

Actually a working drm model of such a thing would be cheaper built on a motherboard rather than installing the drm on a computer chip.

Recently i heard that microsoft came out with a new operating system that was immediatly slammed because microsoft had made claims that illegal cd and dvd ripping would be more difficult. 

Microsoft denies all of these allegations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How would this technology apply to dvd copy ? </p>
<p>I suppose the gist of this arguement centers around digital tv signals. </p>
<p>They say that the old tried and true analog tv set that are imported from china and sold at walmart will be the thing of the past. </p>
<p>So how can a watermark be used to keep people from cooking hollywood movies on their computers ? </p>
<p>Something that would even make slysoft and dvdfab worthless?</p>
<p>In theory the only way the cartels would be able to do this if every motherboard that was ever meant for sale in the united states had a chip installed on the motherboard that would detect  a water mark or checksum on the dvd and prevent the dvd from being copied.</p>
<p>It might be a derivative of the technology involved in fingerprint indentication.</p>
<p>I see this in action where i work at a military base where fingerprint indentication is used to check in and out vehicle keys in a computer driven key storage system.</p>
<p>This might sound like a very elaborate and expensive proposition.</p>
<p>I want to ask the rest of you Would this be technically feasible?</p>
<p>As it stands today a css encoded dvd will prevent the operating system and the dvd burner from reading the dvd vob files.</p>
<p>Actually a working drm model of such a thing would be cheaper built on a motherboard rather than installing the drm on a computer chip.</p>
<p>Recently i heard that microsoft came out with a new operating system that was immediatly slammed because microsoft had made claims that illegal cd and dvd ripping would be more difficult. </p>
<p>Microsoft denies all of these allegations.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6818/comment-page-1#comment-23341</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How would this technology apply to dvd copy ? 

I suppose the gist of this arguement centers around digital tv signals. 

They say that the old tried and true analog tv set that are imported from china and sold at walmart will be the thing of the past. 

So how can a watermark be used to keep people from cooking hollywood movies on their computers ? 

In theory the only way the cartels would be able to do this if every motherboard that was ever meant for sale in the united states had a chip installed on the motherboard that would detect  a water mark or checksum on the dvd and prevent the dvd from being copied.I

t might be a derivative of the technology involved in fingerprint indentication.

I see this in action where i work at a military base where fingerprint indentication is used to check in and out vehicle keys in a computer driven key storage system.

This might sound like a very elaborate and expensive proposition.

I want to ask the rest of you Would this be technically feasible?

As it stands today a css encoded dvd will prevent the operating system and the dvd burner from reading the dvd vob files.

Actually a working drm model of such a thing would be cheaper built on a motherboard rather than installing the drm on a computer chip.

Recently i heard that microsoft came out with a new operating system that was immediatly slammed because microsoft had made claims that illegal cd and dvd ripping would be more difficult. 

Microsoft denies all of these allegations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How would this technology apply to dvd copy ? </p>
<p>I suppose the gist of this arguement centers around digital tv signals. </p>
<p>They say that the old tried and true analog tv set that are imported from china and sold at walmart will be the thing of the past. </p>
<p>So how can a watermark be used to keep people from cooking hollywood movies on their computers ? </p>
<p>In theory the only way the cartels would be able to do this if every motherboard that was ever meant for sale in the united states had a chip installed on the motherboard that would detect  a water mark or checksum on the dvd and prevent the dvd from being copied.I</p>
<p>t might be a derivative of the technology involved in fingerprint indentication.</p>
<p>I see this in action where i work at a military base where fingerprint indentication is used to check in and out vehicle keys in a computer driven key storage system.</p>
<p>This might sound like a very elaborate and expensive proposition.</p>
<p>I want to ask the rest of you Would this be technically feasible?</p>
<p>As it stands today a css encoded dvd will prevent the operating system and the dvd burner from reading the dvd vob files.</p>
<p>Actually a working drm model of such a thing would be cheaper built on a motherboard rather than installing the drm on a computer chip.</p>
<p>Recently i heard that microsoft came out with a new operating system that was immediatly slammed because microsoft had made claims that illegal cd and dvd ripping would be more difficult. </p>
<p>Microsoft denies all of these allegations.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6818/comment-page-1#comment-23340</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How would this technology apply to dvd copy ? I suppose the gist of this arguement centers around digital tv signals. 

They say that the old tried and true analog tv set that are imported from china and sold at walmart will be the thing of the past. 

So how can a watermark be used to keep people from cooking hollywood movies on their computers ? 

In theory the only way the cartels would be able to do this if every motherboard that was ever meant for sale in the united states had a chip installed on the motherboard that would detect  a water mark or checksum on the dvd and prevent the dvd from being copied.I

t might be a derivative of the technology involved in fingerprint indentication.

I see this in action where i work at a military base where fingerprint indentication is used to check in and out vehicle keys in a computer driven key storage system.

This might sound like a very elaborate and expensive proposition.

I want to ask the rest of you Would this be technically feasible?

As it stands today a css encoded dvd will prevent the operating system and the dvd burner from reading the dvd vob files.

Actually a working drm model of such a thing would be cheaper built on a motherboard rather than installing the drm on a computer chip.

Recently i heard that microsoft came out with a new operating system that was immediatly slammed because microsoft had made claims that illegal cd and dvd ripping would be more difficult. 

Microsoft denies all of these allegations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How would this technology apply to dvd copy ? I suppose the gist of this arguement centers around digital tv signals. </p>
<p>They say that the old tried and true analog tv set that are imported from china and sold at walmart will be the thing of the past. </p>
<p>So how can a watermark be used to keep people from cooking hollywood movies on their computers ? </p>
<p>In theory the only way the cartels would be able to do this if every motherboard that was ever meant for sale in the united states had a chip installed on the motherboard that would detect  a water mark or checksum on the dvd and prevent the dvd from being copied.I</p>
<p>t might be a derivative of the technology involved in fingerprint indentication.</p>
<p>I see this in action where i work at a military base where fingerprint indentication is used to check in and out vehicle keys in a computer driven key storage system.</p>
<p>This might sound like a very elaborate and expensive proposition.</p>
<p>I want to ask the rest of you Would this be technically feasible?</p>
<p>As it stands today a css encoded dvd will prevent the operating system and the dvd burner from reading the dvd vob files.</p>
<p>Actually a working drm model of such a thing would be cheaper built on a motherboard rather than installing the drm on a computer chip.</p>
<p>Recently i heard that microsoft came out with a new operating system that was immediatly slammed because microsoft had made claims that illegal cd and dvd ripping would be more difficult. </p>
<p>Microsoft denies all of these allegations.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6818/comment-page-1#comment-23300</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 14:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think our only hope is that the sheer number of companies that will be impacted by this and start screaming about it is enough to make hollywood back off. 

Tho i can see the tech industry outside the US already rubbing their hands in glee. After all, as long as they provide assurances that their products won&#039;t be made available in the us they don&#039;t have to comply with this legislation at all.

It wouldn&#039;t be their fault then if the US public started illegally importing the non locked down tech into the US, now would it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think our only hope is that the sheer number of companies that will be impacted by this and start screaming about it is enough to make hollywood back off. </p>
<p>Tho i can see the tech industry outside the US already rubbing their hands in glee. After all, as long as they provide assurances that their products won&#8217;t be made available in the us they don&#8217;t have to comply with this legislation at all.</p>
<p>It wouldn&#8217;t be their fault then if the US public started illegally importing the non locked down tech into the US, now would it?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6818/comment-page-1#comment-23292</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 06:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds as though it may be unconstitutional, though I admit I haven&#039;t read it in detail. However it seems that to force this technology on all people may inhibit the ability of the individual to disseminate free speech in an unfettered manner. What if I do a news story, and I WANT the footage to be as easily copied and viewed as possible ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds as though it may be unconstitutional, though I admit I haven&#8217;t read it in detail. However it seems that to force this technology on all people may inhibit the ability of the individual to disseminate free speech in an unfettered manner. What if I do a news story, and I WANT the footage to be as easily copied and viewed as possible ?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6818/comment-page-1#comment-23284</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 02:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right, militias have been a part of the country since its inception.  However Slick Willy&#039;s abuse of power caused a heavy resurgence of the militia.  Bushie&#039;s policies should be doing the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right, militias have been a part of the country since its inception.  However Slick Willy&#8217;s abuse of power caused a heavy resurgence of the militia.  Bushie&#8217;s policies should be doing the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6818/comment-page-1#comment-23279</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 02:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Right Wing militias started appearing when Clinton was rampantly abusing people.&quot;

Are you kidding? Right wing militias predate slick willy by a long time. Cripes, I&#039;d say the klan is (and was) a right wing militia of sorts. I&#039;m not taking issue with the basic message of your post, but the time line part is way off.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Right Wing militias started appearing when Clinton was rampantly abusing people.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you kidding? Right wing militias predate slick willy by a long time. Cripes, I&#8217;d say the klan is (and was) a right wing militia of sorts. I&#8217;m not taking issue with the basic message of your post, but the time line part is way off.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6818/comment-page-1#comment-23270</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 00:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
 The broadcast flag failed once before.
 Why ?

 Something the industry didn&#039;t count on.

 Our congressional leaders work on the theory that 
 &quot;What the public doesn&#039;t know, won&#039;t keep us from being reelected&quot;.

 Because of the efforts of sites like this, The EFF, and other
similar organizations, word spread. People were outraged, wrote letters, threatened to send their votes elsewhere, and
our &quot;leaders&quot; backed off.

 The industry COUNTS on word never getting out. That USED to be easy, since they control, directly or financially, all mainstream media. 

 This no longer true.
 We&#039;ve proved it.

 So,
 DON&quot;T GIVE UP !

 Spread the word.
 Write your congressmen.
 Let them know, in no uncertain terms, that if they are FOR
 this, you feel they are no longer suitable for public office.

 Dreddsnik.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The broadcast flag failed once before.<br />
 Why ?</p>
<p> Something the industry didn&#8217;t count on.</p>
<p> Our congressional leaders work on the theory that<br />
 &#8220;What the public doesn&#8217;t know, won&#8217;t keep us from being reelected&#8221;.</p>
<p> Because of the efforts of sites like this, The EFF, and other<br />
similar organizations, word spread. People were outraged, wrote letters, threatened to send their votes elsewhere, and<br />
our &#8220;leaders&#8221; backed off.</p>
<p> The industry COUNTS on word never getting out. That USED to be easy, since they control, directly or financially, all mainstream media. </p>
<p> This no longer true.<br />
 We&#8217;ve proved it.</p>
<p> So,<br />
 DON&#8221;T GIVE UP !</p>
<p> Spread the word.<br />
 Write your congressmen.<br />
 Let them know, in no uncertain terms, that if they are FOR<br />
 this, you feel they are no longer suitable for public office.</p>
<p> Dreddsnik.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6818/comment-page-1#comment-23265</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 00:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We North American&#039;s are a fat, lazy, and complacent lot. By the time we figure out we need to all be standing up for what is right, and not just a few of us, it will be far too late as there won&#039;t be any rights left to stand up for.

What is really needed is for the technology industry to stand up and have their say in this once and for all. The entertainment industry exists at the sole sufferance of the tech industry, not the other way around as the MPAA &amp; RIAA seem to think. Exactly what is the total contribution to gross national income of the tech industry versus the entertainment industry anyways? We all know the answer to that. And guess who makes all the cameras and equipment the entertainment industry requires to make their product? Or all the gear required to build and operate theaters, and the equipment required so that regular folks buy and view the entertainment industries products at home? Who allows the entertainment industry to even make money in the first place?

If everyone thinks this law is going to have a huge impact on the people, just think of the technological sector. It&#039;s going to be even bigger of an impact on them because it&#039;s going to severely hamper what they can and cannot do by shackling their hands behind their backs for all time. What happens when other, more sane countries, outlaw such technological tampering because it tramples users rights? Tech companies are going to have to put in the resources to make both hampered and non-hampered models of absolutely everything they make, or simply not bother selling their wares in those countries anymore. In the short term it&#039;s probably not much of a bother for them to do so since the infrastructure is more than likely already in place to do so, but think of the long term costs and loss of sales! People won&#039;t want equipment that limits them in anyway. They&#039;ve proven that already. What they want, and always will want, is equipment that not just allows them to do whatever they want with what they&#039;ve paid good money for (and that includes the distribution media too), but they want it to be simple and easy to use. Unfortunately that is the problem with everyone these days (except for a rare few); they&#039;re much too short sighted to see all of the long term problems that new laws like these are certainly going to create. In which case I, and others like myself, should be asking, why should I even bother to care at all anymore...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We North American&#8217;s are a fat, lazy, and complacent lot. By the time we figure out we need to all be standing up for what is right, and not just a few of us, it will be far too late as there won&#8217;t be any rights left to stand up for.</p>
<p>What is really needed is for the technology industry to stand up and have their say in this once and for all. The entertainment industry exists at the sole sufferance of the tech industry, not the other way around as the MPAA &#038; RIAA seem to think. Exactly what is the total contribution to gross national income of the tech industry versus the entertainment industry anyways? We all know the answer to that. And guess who makes all the cameras and equipment the entertainment industry requires to make their product? Or all the gear required to build and operate theaters, and the equipment required so that regular folks buy and view the entertainment industries products at home? Who allows the entertainment industry to even make money in the first place?</p>
<p>If everyone thinks this law is going to have a huge impact on the people, just think of the technological sector. It&#8217;s going to be even bigger of an impact on them because it&#8217;s going to severely hamper what they can and cannot do by shackling their hands behind their backs for all time. What happens when other, more sane countries, outlaw such technological tampering because it tramples users rights? Tech companies are going to have to put in the resources to make both hampered and non-hampered models of absolutely everything they make, or simply not bother selling their wares in those countries anymore. In the short term it&#8217;s probably not much of a bother for them to do so since the infrastructure is more than likely already in place to do so, but think of the long term costs and loss of sales! People won&#8217;t want equipment that limits them in anyway. They&#8217;ve proven that already. What they want, and always will want, is equipment that not just allows them to do whatever they want with what they&#8217;ve paid good money for (and that includes the distribution media too), but they want it to be simple and easy to use. Unfortunately that is the problem with everyone these days (except for a rare few); they&#8217;re much too short sighted to see all of the long term problems that new laws like these are certainly going to create. In which case I, and others like myself, should be asking, why should I even bother to care at all anymore&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6818/comment-page-1#comment-23264</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 00:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I give it less then that if we don&#039;t start seriously considering why we have this right and use it to protect ourselves.  Right Wing militias started appearing when Clinton was rampantly abusing people.  Of course when these groups started springing up, the government became a lot less aggressive.  Many in these groups are the same ones who voted for Bushie.  Now that king George is in office they have gone underground.   I have news for these patriots, there is more danger of the loss of freedoms now more than ever.  The government has the excuse of the World Trade Center terrorist attack to steal our liberties as well as large campaign coffers filled by the cartels.

I wonder what would happen of the people of this country elected a Libertarian or Constitution Party member as President instead of a Democrat-Republican.  The only ways I can see that we can assert our liberties is either flushing the toilet (government offices) enough times to get rid of the shit or civil war.  I would much rather do it by getting rid of all the criminals in political office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I give it less then that if we don&#8217;t start seriously considering why we have this right and use it to protect ourselves.  Right Wing militias started appearing when Clinton was rampantly abusing people.  Of course when these groups started springing up, the government became a lot less aggressive.  Many in these groups are the same ones who voted for Bushie.  Now that king George is in office they have gone underground.   I have news for these patriots, there is more danger of the loss of freedoms now more than ever.  The government has the excuse of the World Trade Center terrorist attack to steal our liberties as well as large campaign coffers filled by the cartels.</p>
<p>I wonder what would happen of the people of this country elected a Libertarian or Constitution Party member as President instead of a Democrat-Republican.  The only ways I can see that we can assert our liberties is either flushing the toilet (government offices) enough times to get rid of the shit or civil war.  I would much rather do it by getting rid of all the criminals in political office.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6818/comment-page-1#comment-23252</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 22:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just how long do you think that right is going to last. 5 to 10 years at the most?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just how long do you think that right is going to last. 5 to 10 years at the most?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6818/comment-page-1#comment-23250</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 21:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the P.S.A. , we are supposed to have the right to a free press.  This legislation, if passed, will substantially infringe apon that right.  If this law is passed, and the court system upholds it, then there is only one alternative left, and that alternative has to deal with the title of this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the P.S.A. , we are supposed to have the right to a free press.  This legislation, if passed, will substantially infringe apon that right.  If this law is passed, and the court system upholds it, then there is only one alternative left, and that alternative has to deal with the title of this post.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6818/comment-page-1#comment-23248</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 21:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The scary thing is that eventually they will probably succeed. Despite crying poverty due to piracy, the MPAA and RIAA have an endless stream of money to throw at a greedy and corrupt congress. It will probably wind up in the courts. Anyone who lives in the US knows what a crapshoot that is, all you need to do is look at the Supreme court&#039;s Kelo decision( http://forum.belmont.edu/cornwall/archives/002880.html ) to see how courts can trample individual rights</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The scary thing is that eventually they will probably succeed. Despite crying poverty due to piracy, the MPAA and RIAA have an endless stream of money to throw at a greedy and corrupt congress. It will probably wind up in the courts. Anyone who lives in the US knows what a crapshoot that is, all you need to do is look at the Supreme court&#8217;s Kelo decision( <a href="http://forum.belmont.edu/cornwall/archives/002880.html" rel="nofollow">http://forum.belmont.edu/cornwall/archives/002880.html</a> ) to see how courts can trample individual rights</p>
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