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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6867/comment-page-1#comment-25201</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try www.creativecommons.org and www.ccmixter.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try <a href="http://www.creativecommons.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.creativecommons.org</a> and <a href="http://www.ccmixter.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.ccmixter.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6867/comment-page-1#comment-24181</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft continues to buy VoIP companies - after Teleo this summer, MS bought Swiss VoIP company (Media-streams.com) last week. What do you think would be Skype’s value if MS (or Google) buys GIPS (current voice engine provider to Skype)? Just wondering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft continues to buy VoIP companies &#8211; after Teleo this summer, MS bought Swiss VoIP company (Media-streams.com) last week. What do you think would be Skype’s value if MS (or Google) buys GIPS (current voice engine provider to Skype)? Just wondering.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6867/comment-page-1#comment-24143</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 00:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>www.ccmixter.org
www.soundnet.co.uk

The ccmixter site releases their source code under the name &#039;cchost&#039; and there are a couple of other sites out there using it. Look on the Creative Commons wiki for a list of those.

As sites like these grow, I see no reason why any record label, major label or not, needs to exist. Saying that, labels that embrace new technology and business models can have their place in the world of music in the 21st Century. Those that have become old and outdated have no place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.ccmixter.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.ccmixter.org</a><br />
<a href="http://www.soundnet.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.soundnet.co.uk</a></p>
<p>The ccmixter site releases their source code under the name &#8216;cchost&#8217; and there are a couple of other sites out there using it. Look on the Creative Commons wiki for a list of those.</p>
<p>As sites like these grow, I see no reason why any record label, major label or not, needs to exist. Saying that, labels that embrace new technology and business models can have their place in the world of music in the 21st Century. Those that have become old and outdated have no place.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6867/comment-page-1#comment-24114</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its bad enough that the SunnComm CEO was so stupid that he didn&#039;t even realise the article was a spoof, even though Jon admitted it in one of the above comments, and felt the need to deny some of the obvious statements made in jest:

&quot;SunnComm Denies Published Reports of Joint Venture&quot;

http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/051108/89378.html

but it seems this guy has entered into a transaction that will pay himself $1M guaranteed in shares, in addition to $100K pa consultancy fee and very generous stock options.

It is with MediaMax Technology Corporation.  This company was exposed on p2pnet as a sham last year. 

&quot;SunnComm to MediaMax Technology Corporation: A rose by any other name?&quot;

http://p2pnet.net/story/4567

When MediaMax Technology Corporation merges back with SunnComm (and as that article asked, why did they separate in the first place?), Jacobs will act as a consultant to the company. This is his renumeration:

&quot;Mr. Jacobs will be paid a consulting fee equal to $100,000 per annum for his services. In addition, the Company agreed to issue Mr. Jacobs 10,000,000 shares of the Company&#039;s common stock on or promptly after January 1, 2006, which shares he may cause the Company to repurchase for $.10 per share within 30 days following the second anniversary of the effective time of the SunnComm merger, and granted to Mr. Jacobs options to purchase 15,000,000 MediaMax shares, 10,000,000 of which are exercisable at $.05 per share and 5,000,000 of which are exercisable at $.075 per share&quot;

http://biz.yahoo.com/e/051104/mmxt.ob8-k.html

Of course a company earning millions of dollars every year can afford be extravagant to its mates.... Oops did I say millions of dollars revenue.  Lets check that now....

2003 - $0 revenue
2004 - $106K
2005 (to June 30th) - $99K

OMG - the poor shareholders!

One can only pity the long suffering shareholders of SunnComm (and MediaMax Technology Corporation) who have seen their shares fall in value from about 70 cents to 3 cents today. The 70 cent high was achieved when the stock price tripled following the release by Jacobs of a press release with a Taiwanese company that has since been proven to be non-existent.

SunnComm Inks $20+ Million Copy Protection Deal With Major Pacific Rim CD Manufacturer

http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/news/0012/sunncomm_cd_protect.shtml

Yes, Will-Shown Technology Co., LTD does not exist. They press release was a complete fabrication to pump the stock price. 

Perhaps the SEC may take him to task before he can take advantage of the lucrative $1M fee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its bad enough that the SunnComm CEO was so stupid that he didn&#8217;t even realise the article was a spoof, even though Jon admitted it in one of the above comments, and felt the need to deny some of the obvious statements made in jest:</p>
<p>&#8220;SunnComm Denies Published Reports of Joint Venture&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/051108/89378.html" rel="nofollow">http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/051108/89378.html</a></p>
<p>but it seems this guy has entered into a transaction that will pay himself $1M guaranteed in shares, in addition to $100K pa consultancy fee and very generous stock options.</p>
<p>It is with MediaMax Technology Corporation.  This company was exposed on p2pnet as a sham last year. </p>
<p>&#8220;SunnComm to MediaMax Technology Corporation: A rose by any other name?&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://p2pnet.net/story/4567" rel="nofollow">http://p2pnet.net/story/4567</a></p>
<p>When MediaMax Technology Corporation merges back with SunnComm (and as that article asked, why did they separate in the first place?), Jacobs will act as a consultant to the company. This is his renumeration:</p>
<p>&#8220;Mr. Jacobs will be paid a consulting fee equal to $100,000 per annum for his services. In addition, the Company agreed to issue Mr. Jacobs 10,000,000 shares of the Company&#8217;s common stock on or promptly after January 1, 2006, which shares he may cause the Company to repurchase for $.10 per share within 30 days following the second anniversary of the effective time of the SunnComm merger, and granted to Mr. Jacobs options to purchase 15,000,000 MediaMax shares, 10,000,000 of which are exercisable at $.05 per share and 5,000,000 of which are exercisable at $.075 per share&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/e/051104/mmxt.ob8-k.html" rel="nofollow">http://biz.yahoo.com/e/051104/mmxt.ob8-k.html</a></p>
<p>Of course a company earning millions of dollars every year can afford be extravagant to its mates&#8230;. Oops did I say millions of dollars revenue.  Lets check that now&#8230;.</p>
<p>2003 &#8211; $0 revenue<br />
2004 &#8211; $106K<br />
2005 (to June 30th) &#8211; $99K</p>
<p>OMG &#8211; the poor shareholders!</p>
<p>One can only pity the long suffering shareholders of SunnComm (and MediaMax Technology Corporation) who have seen their shares fall in value from about 70 cents to 3 cents today. The 70 cent high was achieved when the stock price tripled following the release by Jacobs of a press release with a Taiwanese company that has since been proven to be non-existent.</p>
<p>SunnComm Inks $20+ Million Copy Protection Deal With Major Pacific Rim CD Manufacturer</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/news/0012/sunncomm_cd_protect.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/news/0012/sunncomm_cd_protect.shtml</a></p>
<p>Yes, Will-Shown Technology Co., LTD does not exist. They press release was a complete fabrication to pump the stock price. </p>
<p>Perhaps the SEC may take him to task before he can take advantage of the lucrative $1M fee.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6867/comment-page-1#comment-24113</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a complete dumbass the president and CEO of SunnComm is. It is obvious to everyone that the article was a spoof. Even Jon wrote so himself.

This guy continues to put his foot in his mouth.  This from 2 years ago:

SunnComm CEO demands to be called a ‘laughing stock’

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/16/sunncomm_ceo_demands/

Of course when you are a sham company, any publicity helps

Is SunnComm a sham or the next, big DRM success?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/09/27/sunncomm_death_or_glorry/

One should never forget their many misdemeanors, some reported to the SEC (4 in this document)

http://www.our-street.com/SEC-SunnComm4.htm

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a complete dumbass the president and CEO of SunnComm is. It is obvious to everyone that the article was a spoof. Even Jon wrote so himself.</p>
<p>This guy continues to put his foot in his mouth.  This from 2 years ago:</p>
<p>SunnComm CEO demands to be called a ‘laughing stock’</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/16/sunncomm_ceo_demands/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/16/sunncomm_ceo_demands/</a></p>
<p>Of course when you are a sham company, any publicity helps</p>
<p>Is SunnComm a sham or the next, big DRM success?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/09/27/sunncomm_death_or_glorry/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/09/27/sunncomm_death_or_glorry/</a></p>
<p>One should never forget their many misdemeanors, some reported to the SEC (4 in this document)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.our-street.com/SEC-SunnComm4.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.our-street.com/SEC-SunnComm4.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6867/comment-page-1#comment-24063</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PR responds to this article. 
SunnComm Denies Published Reports of Joint Venture
http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/051108/89378.html

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PR responds to this article.<br />
SunnComm Denies Published Reports of Joint Venture<br />
<a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/051108/89378.html" rel="nofollow">http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/051108/89378.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6867/comment-page-1#comment-23958</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gl;;g/lo</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6867/comment-page-1#comment-23508</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 10:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ofcourse this isn&#039;t true! p2pnet played a little prank on us..</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6867/comment-page-1#comment-23504</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 09:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MMMMMMMmmmmmm..........



This constant wrangling for mind-share and litigation got me thinking.  
Sure it&#039;s great we have many websites where free-music-movie loving people can share opinions about the illegal tactics of the RIAA &amp; MPAA.

But, it would be AWESOME if we can CREATE music and movies that are consumer-friendly to compete with the cartels.

Blender&#039;s ORANGE project (www.blender.org) is a great example.  And &quot;fan films&quot; are okay.  BUT WE NEED MORE!!!

It would be really nice if there are online movie/music CREATION COMMUNITIES out there ---- Let me know if you are aware of any.

Like the saying goes, &quot;Don&#039;t fight the media, BE the media!!!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MMMMMMMmmmmmm&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>This constant wrangling for mind-share and litigation got me thinking.<br />
Sure it&#8217;s great we have many websites where free-music-movie loving people can share opinions about the illegal tactics of the RIAA &#038; MPAA.</p>
<p>But, it would be AWESOME if we can CREATE music and movies that are consumer-friendly to compete with the cartels.</p>
<p>Blender&#8217;s ORANGE project (www.blender.org) is a great example.  And &#8220;fan films&#8221; are okay.  BUT WE NEED MORE!!!</p>
<p>It would be really nice if there are online movie/music CREATION COMMUNITIES out there &#8212;- Let me know if you are aware of any.</p>
<p>Like the saying goes, &#8220;Don&#8217;t fight the media, BE the media!!!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6867/comment-page-1#comment-23501</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 07:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a load of crap.  The first giveaway is the &quot;250 decible screech&quot;  Only an Atomic bomb is that loud.  Can you imagine the lawsuits when little Johnny goes deaf trying to listen to the Blink 182 song he downloaded?

LMAO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a load of crap.  The first giveaway is the &#8220;250 decible screech&#8221;  Only an Atomic bomb is that loud.  Can you imagine the lawsuits when little Johnny goes deaf trying to listen to the Blink 182 song he downloaded?</p>
<p>LMAO!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6867/comment-page-1#comment-23494</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 04:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out www.distrowatch.com for alternatives (free) to those proprietary SHITZZZZ....

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out <a href="http://www.distrowatch.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.distrowatch.com</a> for alternatives (free) to those proprietary SHITZZZZ&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6867/comment-page-1#comment-23492</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 04:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a news site? 
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6867/comment-page-1#comment-23489</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 02:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys have got  to stop posting nonsense like this if you want to be treated and viewed as an actual news source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys have got  to stop posting nonsense like this if you want to be treated and viewed as an actual news source.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6867/comment-page-1#comment-23487</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 01:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything in this article is believable and possible considering what the big corporations are demanding. There is one flaw that is not believable though, Apple and Microsoft will never team up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything in this article is believable and possible considering what the big corporations are demanding. There is one flaw that is not believable though, Apple and Microsoft will never team up!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6867/comment-page-1#comment-23482</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 00:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeh and don&#039;t forget Orrin Hatch wanted to blow up computers of file sharers remotely so its not as far fetched as it seems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeh and don&#8217;t forget Orrin Hatch wanted to blow up computers of file sharers remotely so its not as far fetched as it seems.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6867/comment-page-1#comment-23481</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 23:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guessd it was a spoof, but I would not put it passed them, I bet they would love a system like that, ear phones that blow your ears and detonating computers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guessd it was a spoof, but I would not put it passed them, I bet they would love a system like that, ear phones that blow your ears and detonating computers.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6867/comment-page-1#comment-23478</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 21:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s so unreal it could be real. But it&#039;s a spoof. For now. 

We ran another [http://p2pnet.net/story/5301] about the MPAA and RIAA starting a joint &#039;trade&#039; organization. It&#039;s starting to look less like a spoof and more like the real thing every day.  

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so unreal it could be real. But it&#8217;s a spoof. For now. </p>
<p>We ran another [http://p2pnet.net/story/5301] about the MPAA and RIAA starting a joint &#8216;trade&#8217; organization. It&#8217;s starting to look less like a spoof and more like the real thing every day.  </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6867/comment-page-1#comment-23477</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 21:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think (hope) this is article is a load of crap, if it was true it would be illegal, impossible and break health and safety laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think (hope) this is article is a load of crap, if it was true it would be illegal, impossible and break health and safety laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6867/comment-page-1#comment-23476</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 21:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol what do you think?</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 21:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is this true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is this true?</p>
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