Comments on: SunnComm falls for p2pnet spoof

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:21:06 +0000

http://p2pnet.net/story/6936

That’ll be a start.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:28:51 +0000

Sony Malware Targets Mac Via Music CDs;

Posted by: Trent Nov 10, 2005 - 11:47 PM
Software 177 Reads

Vote no on Sony?

A MacInTouch reader has reported that upon inserting Imogen Heap’s new album (you might remember Imogen from the techno-pop duo: Frou Frou) into his Mac he soon found an unwelcome CD extra present on the album, an application labeled “Start.app.” After launching the application one is presented with a long legal agreement, if one clicks continue they are then asked for a username and password. The application then quickly quits. It turns out this application installs two kernel extensions, “PhoenixNub1.kext and PhoenixNub12.kext.” What the kernel extensions do exactly has yet to be discovered.

Supposedly, it is not the same as the Windows rootkits the internet has been buzzing about but rather DRM created by SunnComm (who advertises Mac support for their software).

While Macs have been subject to physically altered copy-protected CDs in the past, even prompting Apple to provide instructions concerning removing said CDs from one’s Mac because they would refuse to eject, this is the first time in recent history that a large company such as Sony has specifically targeted the Mac with software DRM.

http://applexnet.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1648

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:42:08 +0000

I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again. The bigger the org the smaller the brains in charge.

My current theory is that as the org grows in size, the ego starts to overwhelm the intellect. It explains most of the behaviours, attitudes etc, but without some real studies it’s just conjecture.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:28:58 +0000

Interesting…. how can we connect these FreeWan(s) together to form a national and INTERNATIONAL network?!!

Any genius hackers out there who can assist?

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:44:40 +0000

In the rootkit debacle that Sony is in up to it’s neck, so is SunnComm. Depending on how far these countries and states decide to persue this “who is responcible” in criminal activity could well lead right to SunnComm’s doorstep. Now who has the creditablity issue?

Geffen Records was founded by David Geffen in 1975 (after having founded Asylum Records in the 1970s). Geffen was originally part of Warner Bros. Records until it was purchased by MCA in 1990 and is now part of Universal Music Group. In 2003, Geffen was merged with MCA Records.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geffen_Records

In 1995, Seagram Company Ltd. acquired 80% of MCA INC. and the following year the new owners dropped the MCA name; the company became Universal Studios, Inc. and its music divison, MCA Music Entertainment Group, was renamed Universal Music Group. The following year the new owners sold G. P. Putnam’s Sons to the Penguin Group. In 1998 Seagram acquired PolyGram from Philips & merged it with its music holdings. When Seagram was brought by France-based Pernod Ricard, its holdings in Universal were sold to Vivendi.

In the spring of 2003, MCA Records was folded into Geffen Records. Its country music label, MCA Nashville Records is still in operation.

MCA ran “RadioMOI” Music On Internet company.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCA_Records

The companies involved include First4Internet, Sony BMG, and the notorious SunnComm and its MediaMax technology. First4Internet’s clients include Universal Music Group, Warner Music Group and EMI. Billboard reports that “Sony BMG expects by year’s end a substantial number of its U.S. releases will employ either MediaMax or XCP.

http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2005/06/_limit_cd_burni.html

In otherwords, this whole thing is an all in the family affair. It was purposely cooked up, not by seeking outside third party help but by using inhouse corporations or ones that could be depended on to keep the secret. It was done, with foreknowledge of exactly what they were doing, who was doing what, and with the assurance that it would be kept quiet.

Let the chips fall where they may.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Fri, 11 Nov 2005 04:18:34 +0000

Bigger does not mean having more credibility. SunnComm, while relatively big, does not have any moral authority or credibility and thus can not adversely affect this site’s credibility. In fact their press release, which you think is bad for this site’s credibility, was not a real news article, but propaganda they paid Yahoo’s PrimeZone News to run. Any news released in that manner is full of shit and has no credibility of its own.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Fri, 11 Nov 2005 03:53:24 +0000

Some of you people need to lighten up.

“But to have SunnComm, who is bigger than anything or anyone on this site call Jon out by name and say his story is innacurrate is damaging to the credibility of this site. Just a thought.”

Here’s another thought. The idiots at SunComm, who actually took this story seriously, should give their head a shake. Seriously, anyone with half a brain should realize the story is a spoof.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Fri, 11 Nov 2005 01:24:51 +0000

People who browse SunnComm’s website who see the article and a link to p2pnet.net will either do one of the following:

They will think to themselves that Jon’s site sucks and will forget even the name of Jon’s site after a day or two, or they will get curious and click on the link and be taken to the article and realize that it is satire.
If they decide to come and read this article, they may decide to look at others and gain some insight into p2p. I have a couple of times visited a satire site and after realizing it was a satire decided to do additional investigation of the company depicted. Needless to say, from a business perspective, I see no long term profit in DRM. I would invest in a DRM company only if I were sure that a pump and dump scheme would work.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 23:56:49 +0000

I know a lot of people like this site and support jon. But to have SunnComm, who is bigger than anything or anyone on this site call Jon out by name and say his story is innacurrate is damaging to the credibility of this site. Just a thought.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:24:48 +0000

I wonder if the media cartel is responsible for this sploggin in order to force Jon to register users?

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:19:23 +0000

The rich and pwerful used to say about the less fortunate population,
“Let them eat cake.” Well, this is now being turned aroun on the cartels. FreeWan is popular around more than one college. Yes, many are wepped, but the key is given via word of mouth. This is one way of keeping the cartels off of people’s backs. They cannot sue what they cannot see.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:26:30 +0000

I second that! It’s a double edge-sword as the previous reader mentioned. The Music and Movie cartel are able to ‘educate’ themselves on technologies such as BT…But you know what, the tech stuff they learn are teh established stuff adn has been around for a long time. So they are not getting an ‘advantage.’ On the plus side, it may influence some of them that WE consumers are not to be abused and taken lightly.

Respect us OR ELSE!!!

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:13:03 +0000

“At this time SunnComm is not involved, in any way, with Macrovision as it relates to development projects or other discussions with Apple Computer,” SunnComm said. “Executives at MediaMax Technology Corp, the seller of MediaMax, have confirmed that they are not currently working with Macrovision in relation to the development of a new kind of DRM for Apple.”

For those not keeping track, MediaMax and SunnComm are basically the same entity. So, SunnComm apparently called itself to confirm that it’s not working with a major rival on ear-shattering DRM. Lovely. ®

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/09/sunncomm_drm_ear/

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 07:49:54 +0000

Mean streak? Lols, The media cartels give new daffynition to that phrase.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 07:47:48 +0000

Mean streak? Lols, The media cartels give new daffynition to that phrase.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 06:50:58 +0000

You guys have a mean streak in you

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 04:06:02 +0000

so I guess the 250dB blast from the headphones (which would be enough to virtually liquify your head) must be true after all!

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 04:02:46 +0000

How else are the anti-P2P forces going to learn about things like Bittorrent sites?

I’d be willing to bet that Big Music and its collaborators are among P2PNET’s most avid readers.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 03:38:07 +0000

Yes. Thanks to the internet and sites likie this the voiceless have voices. Its great !!!!!

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 03:31:18 +0000

More importantly, it DEMONSTATES time and time again that the industry execs actually read these peer-to-peer websites, especially P2PNET. Comes to show you that in today’s age, the “voiceless” DO have a voice. Kinda makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside, doesn’t it?!

Cheers everyone and keep up the good work making P2P one the (a) most visited, (b) most read, and (c) most respected gathering point for like-minds!