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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-132074</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-132073</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-131952</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 09:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-25085</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 15:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-25085</guid>
		<description>If anybody actually read the EULA before clicking 'I AGREE' then they would know that Sony was installing copy protection software on their PC.  It's there in black and white, if you can be bothered to read it.  Sony's corporate shenanigans may be an area of controversy, but should they really be sued and made a scapegoat just because people cannot be bothered to read what they're actually agreeing to?

I would be very surprised if this class action suit ever made it to court, and shocked if Sony were found guilty of anything.  There is nothing insidious going on here.  People should RTFM before installing ANYTHING!  These EULAs are not just pretty words, they are legally binding documents and I AGREE means I AGREE.  Period.

And no, I don't work for Sony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anybody actually read the EULA before clicking &#8216;I AGREE&#8217; then they would know that Sony was installing copy protection software on their PC.  It&#8217;s there in black and white, if you can be bothered to read it.  Sony&#8217;s corporate shenanigans may be an area of controversy, but should they really be sued and made a scapegoat just because people cannot be bothered to read what they&#8217;re actually agreeing to?</p>
<p>I would be very surprised if this class action suit ever made it to court, and shocked if Sony were found guilty of anything.  There is nothing insidious going on here.  People should RTFM before installing ANYTHING!  These EULAs are not just pretty words, they are legally binding documents and I AGREE means I AGREE.  Period.</p>
<p>And no, I don&#8217;t work for Sony.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-24546</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-24546</guid>
		<description>They are steady losing customers. You can't continue to sue your best customers and expect not to lose business over it. You can't expect corporations that are concerned with their own intranet security not to ban the playing of Sony music (and most likely the rest of the cartel members music just to be sure) on their own corporate computers. No matter how you slice that, it will be a loss of customers. Those that got this rootkit and now have to format it to get rid of it, thanks to Sony dragging their feet in hopes it will go away, or those that got the decloaker and now find they have been exposed to yet another security hole to go with the rootkit, aren't going to be happy customers. Not at all. 

Add to it the latest of Sony trying to price fix internet prices back up to retail prices and it doesn't look at all rosy for Sony's shareholders. Then there is the possibility that Sony could be hit for violating the LGPL of LAME, which could turn out to be a pretty penny. There's a couple of class actions suits coming down but typically those are mere slaps on the hand and don' t amount to much. Sony will probably buy of Italy in some form to prevent criminal charges being filed against it for violating computer security laws there. It will be interesting what comes of the NY lawsuit though. They have been stung twice now by NY State Attorney General, once for involvement with payolla and once for the false critic episode. Nothing in this spells good boding for Sony. 

This hasn't just affected Sony Music. Many are saying this Christmas's presents won't include Sony electronics. I can't blame them really. I mean if they will do this with cheap stuff, what are they willing to do with expensive electronics that the home user isn't going to be able to check the programming on like a computer? It is not out of the question that it could be found that your accuser could get their information from your equipment to substanciate charges against you. You would be none the wiser for it. Personally, I don't want to reward Sony corporation for anything by buying their products. 

As far as I am concerned, Sony CEO needs jail time. If it were an individual, jail time would be a foregone conclusion if found guilty. You can't send a corporation to jail but you can sure send the head knocker there. There needs to be some serious accountablitiy in all this. Not having accountability leads to the likes of the Enon scandle and this has all the trappings of thinking to get away with it all because there is no one  individual in corporate identity to jail. I submit the CEO knew and approved of this and that if the records existed or still exist they are there to prove it. No matter if the records are there or not, still the CEO is responcible for the directions of the corporations. That's why he gets to steal the big bucks. It's also why he should be held personally responcible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are steady losing customers. You can&#8217;t continue to sue your best customers and expect not to lose business over it. You can&#8217;t expect corporations that are concerned with their own intranet security not to ban the playing of Sony music (and most likely the rest of the cartel members music just to be sure) on their own corporate computers. No matter how you slice that, it will be a loss of customers. Those that got this rootkit and now have to format it to get rid of it, thanks to Sony dragging their feet in hopes it will go away, or those that got the decloaker and now find they have been exposed to yet another security hole to go with the rootkit, aren&#8217;t going to be happy customers. Not at all. </p>
<p>Add to it the latest of Sony trying to price fix internet prices back up to retail prices and it doesn&#8217;t look at all rosy for Sony&#8217;s shareholders. Then there is the possibility that Sony could be hit for violating the LGPL of LAME, which could turn out to be a pretty penny. There&#8217;s a couple of class actions suits coming down but typically those are mere slaps on the hand and don&#8217; t amount to much. Sony will probably buy of Italy in some form to prevent criminal charges being filed against it for violating computer security laws there. It will be interesting what comes of the NY lawsuit though. They have been stung twice now by NY State Attorney General, once for involvement with payolla and once for the false critic episode. Nothing in this spells good boding for Sony. </p>
<p>This hasn&#8217;t just affected Sony Music. Many are saying this Christmas&#8217;s presents won&#8217;t include Sony electronics. I can&#8217;t blame them really. I mean if they will do this with cheap stuff, what are they willing to do with expensive electronics that the home user isn&#8217;t going to be able to check the programming on like a computer? It is not out of the question that it could be found that your accuser could get their information from your equipment to substanciate charges against you. You would be none the wiser for it. Personally, I don&#8217;t want to reward Sony corporation for anything by buying their products. </p>
<p>As far as I am concerned, Sony CEO needs jail time. If it were an individual, jail time would be a foregone conclusion if found guilty. You can&#8217;t send a corporation to jail but you can sure send the head knocker there. There needs to be some serious accountablitiy in all this. Not having accountability leads to the likes of the Enon scandle and this has all the trappings of thinking to get away with it all because there is no one  individual in corporate identity to jail. I submit the CEO knew and approved of this and that if the records existed or still exist they are there to prove it. No matter if the records are there or not, still the CEO is responcible for the directions of the corporations. That&#8217;s why he gets to steal the big bucks. It&#8217;s also why he should be held personally responcible.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-24514</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 00:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-24514</guid>
		<description>They will stop when they no longer have any customers...By then it will be too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They will stop when they no longer have any customers&#8230;By then it will be too late.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-24501</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 20:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-24501</guid>
		<description>hahaha...your funny =)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaha&#8230;your funny =)</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-24498</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 20:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-24498</guid>
		<description>...we have Sony, a member of the RIAA which supposedly exists as a Champion of Rights And Fair Play and Protector of People's Property:

1) Selling music CD's that can only be played by the installation of software on customers' computers that, unbeknownst to those customers, compromises their computers and modifies their systems without permission,
2) Including copyrighted (and patented?) code in that software in blatant violation of licenses,
3) Providing an uninstaller that further compromises customers' computers.

These people have been granted pretty much everything they asked for in terms of draconian legislation, seemingly on the mistaken belief that they're on the side of the angels.  Unfortunately, it's now become blazingly clear that the only rights they respect are their own.

Perhaps it's time for Congress to wake up and realize the recording industry companies are doing what they do not to protect rights and look out for the common welfare, but to maximize profits no matter who gets hurt.

Will this incident prompt a re-evaluation of how out-of-balance copyright has become in the name of protecting poor, victim companies?  Time will tell.  But I have a hunch this isn't the last time we'll see bad behavior from the companies who have lobbied so hard to re-define copyright as whatever promotes and defends corporate greed.  

Drunk with legislative success and self-righteous arrogance, such companies evidently believe they can do no wrong.  They're not about to stop now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;we have Sony, a member of the RIAA which supposedly exists as a Champion of Rights And Fair Play and Protector of People&#8217;s Property:</p>
<p>1) Selling music CD&#8217;s that can only be played by the installation of software on customers&#8217; computers that, unbeknownst to those customers, compromises their computers and modifies their systems without permission,<br />
2) Including copyrighted (and patented?) code in that software in blatant violation of licenses,<br />
3) Providing an uninstaller that further compromises customers&#8217; computers.</p>
<p>These people have been granted pretty much everything they asked for in terms of draconian legislation, seemingly on the mistaken belief that they&#8217;re on the side of the angels.  Unfortunately, it&#8217;s now become blazingly clear that the only rights they respect are their own.</p>
<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s time for Congress to wake up and realize the recording industry companies are doing what they do not to protect rights and look out for the common welfare, but to maximize profits no matter who gets hurt.</p>
<p>Will this incident prompt a re-evaluation of how out-of-balance copyright has become in the name of protecting poor, victim companies?  Time will tell.  But I have a hunch this isn&#8217;t the last time we&#8217;ll see bad behavior from the companies who have lobbied so hard to re-define copyright as whatever promotes and defends corporate greed.  </p>
<p>Drunk with legislative success and self-righteous arrogance, such companies evidently believe they can do no wrong.  They&#8217;re not about to stop now.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-24496</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-24496</guid>
		<description>Nice work :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-24489</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-24489</guid>
		<description>Quote: "Once installed, the SOFTWARE will reside on YOUR COMPUTER until removed or deleted." Ya Right! We'll get right on it...Pretty sic statement (don't you think). Regards: dejc/aadservices</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote: &#8220;Once installed, the SOFTWARE will reside on YOUR COMPUTER until removed or deleted.&#8221; Ya Right! We&#8217;ll get right on it&#8230;Pretty sic statement (don&#8217;t you think). Regards: dejc/aadservices</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-24468</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-24468</guid>
		<description>This just keeps getting better and better, sony has had all this coming for along time now.

Lets all cackle wildly at sony and hope it gets sued to death, sooner rather than later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just keeps getting better and better, sony has had all this coming for along time now.</p>
<p>Lets all cackle wildly at sony and hope it gets sued to death, sooner rather than later.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-24467</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-24467</guid>
		<description>I believe he's taking the piss, which can be concluded by viewing the signature at the end.

Signature:
G. Bush

I'm assuming that means george bush :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe he&#8217;s taking the piss, which can be concluded by viewing the signature at the end.</p>
<p>Signature:<br />
G. Bush</p>
<p>I&#8217;m assuming that means george bush <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-24444</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 02:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-24444</guid>
		<description>Are you and  this article for real ?

heheheheheheheheheheheheh................................</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you and  this article for real ?</p>
<p>heheheheheheheheheheheheh&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-24438</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 01:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6970#comment-24438</guid>
		<description>Yes, it is perfectly OK for Sony to use L.A.M.E. in their digital restriction scheme.  I also do not see why they should release any source code for what they used either.  The L.G.P.L. does not apply to Sony Corporation simply because Sony is a respectable business owning billions in assets.  The United States is a nation based on free enterprize and companies like Sony provide jobs for thousands.  It is not like they are some garage tinkerer millionaire wannabe.  

This is the problem:  Some smart assed kid thinks he can come along and force a reputable company like Sony to sell their merchandise at a cheaper price.  Sony has to protect its holdings from such abuse.  The software (L.A.M.E.) that was written for Linux machines misuses Sony's product, so Sony has a right to analyze it and use it for its own purposes.  If these G.P.L. socialists do not like it, then they can take the matter to court where the matter will receive a fair and impartial hearing.  

G. Bush</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it is perfectly OK for Sony to use L.A.M.E. in their digital restriction scheme.  I also do not see why they should release any source code for what they used either.  The L.G.P.L. does not apply to Sony Corporation simply because Sony is a respectable business owning billions in assets.  The United States is a nation based on free enterprize and companies like Sony provide jobs for thousands.  It is not like they are some garage tinkerer millionaire wannabe.  </p>
<p>This is the problem:  Some smart assed kid thinks he can come along and force a reputable company like Sony to sell their merchandise at a cheaper price.  Sony has to protect its holdings from such abuse.  The software (L.A.M.E.) that was written for Linux machines misuses Sony&#8217;s product, so Sony has a right to analyze it and use it for its own purposes.  If these G.P.L. socialists do not like it, then they can take the matter to court where the matter will receive a fair and impartial hearing.  </p>
<p>G. Bush</p>
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