Comments on: The real p2p pirates and thieves

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:11:44 +0000

and the people who have been sued already by the xxAA’s should be the first ones doing this. They should purposely infect their computers by those infected cds and file a suit. Even if one-tenth of the 75,000 odd who got sued, do it, it’ll be a hell of a battle.

I can think of a nice argument in their case: When they use p2p they get sued for thousands… When they dont and do the right thing by buying the cds, they get infected and getting their computers repaired again costs them thousands. Talk about being stuck between a rock and a hard place.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:44:10 +0000

Fluff

Why should copyright holders be given protection for their creation for life plus ?
Their end effort produces a product of no value

Drug companies spend years developing a drug that saves or improves life, yet are protected for only twenty years
Farmers spend millions and get payed at rates that their grandfathers were payed.
The man who repairs your car does not get payed each time the car starts after a repair.
The plumber does not get payed each time you flush after a repair.
When Girl scouts sell you a cookie it,s yours.
When you buy a car, the manufacture does not have the right to tell you how to drive it.

If no music was played from this day on:
People would not die from its loss
There would be food to eat
there would be cloths to ware
there would be water to drink
there would be homes to live in
there would be cars to drive
there would be air to breath
there would be planes to fly
Life would change very little if at all, music is nothing more then fluff, how it’s become a top priority
for the government is beyond me.
The fluff salesman has done their job well i guess.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:58:30 +0000

I suppose you also think recording music off the radio is “stealing”, too. Too bad the Supreme Court disagrees with you, and considering the effect is identical, it seems to me you haven’t got a leg to stand on.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:56:24 +0000

It’s not “stealing”. Thanks for playing.

And speaking of LAME — when you choose to describe one group of people (Sony) as “just trying to protect their stuff” and another as criminals, even though they’ve basically engaged in the same behavior (actually, worse: Sony violated cybercrime law), your biases become pretty obvious.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:54:04 +0000

From http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=share

v. shared, shar·ing, shares
v. tr.
1. To divide and parcel out in shares; apportion.
2. To participate in, use, enjoy, or experience jointly or in turns.
3. To relate (a secret or experience, for example) to another or others.
4. To accord a share in (something) to another or others: shared her chocolate bar with a friend.

Looks to me that def #2 is relevant here.

Is this the best you can do? Refute an accurate criticism with a ridiculous rejoinder?

Can’t you RIAA-types win the debate without resorting to ridiculous and misleading arguments?

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Mon, 21 Nov 2005 05:18:38 +0000

Obviously our troll has a different view of the world. You still have the toys you stole when you were young?

Since the use of DRM, the industry has tried to take all concept of the right of first sale away. That makes your “arguement” invalid. Keep your cartels’ stuff, go collect your paycheck and tell em you tried.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Mon, 21 Nov 2005 04:15:22 +0000

I suport stealing from all the major labels. If artists don’t like it then they should not use these labels and go it alone and then if they are good I may buy there stuff. After this there is no way I will ever buy from a major label, they can not be trusted. Sony sucks and those that sign with them suck.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Mon, 21 Nov 2005 03:51:52 +0000

I believe most educated people have also gotten beyond intentional use of words that do not express the content they wish to convey.

You and your kind use the word “share” when it simply does not apply. When we were all young, why did we not want to “share” our toys? Because when we did so, WE NO LONGER HAD POSSESSION OF THE ITEM. When a P2P system deletes the file on a users computer as soon as it is transferred to another computer, then the file has been “shared.”

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:20:06 +0000

If eveyone who had this rootkit installed on their computer put a claim against Sony in a small claims court, Sony would be forced to fly its representative out for EACH case in each jurusdiction. They might win the case, but it would still cost them money for transportaion, salaries, and such. This is the same tactic used by the cartels against filesharers, so it will work in reverse.

One worker be trying to sting you can be easily swat; A whole swarm of worker bees trying to sting you can be a real b1tc4!!!

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sun, 20 Nov 2005 13:12:38 +0000

Not more lame than that stupid post you wrote. If ignorance is bliss, you must be one happy (& stupid) son of a bitch!

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:36:39 +0000

you tied a bunch of stuff together in one place that makes a huge case against the RIAA & MPAA

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:33:01 +0000

In the Cecilia Gonzalez case, they WANTED to sue her for
over 1000 files.
After the discovery phase, the DROPPED the number of counts
to 30. That’s becuase she owned purchased copies of everything
else . They didn’t want a judge to rule an unfavorable precedent
on the others.
Here’s the problem though ……
They did ,in fact, try to sue Cecilia for DOWNLOADING.
After they lost face here, and had to drop the count to 30, they
learned a lesson, and no longer try to sue for downloading. They
found that it is actually pretty easy for the victim to defend
themselves in the manner you suggest.
The current cases are all for “distributing”.
They StILL screwed up pretty badly though. In THESE cases
all the victim has to do is DEMAND proof of specific acts of
infringement. They can’t produce that proof. That’s why the cases
are currently stalled. Now the only tactic the RIAA has is to try to
run the victim out of cash by stretching out the legalities as long
as possible.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 19 Nov 2005 10:07:43 +0000

Thanks Sony, people now have a legitimate reason why to download the same songs from the Internet that is on their lawfully purchased CD. If I was downloading cartel produced crap and I got a letter indicating I was going to be sued, here is what I would do:

I would make a list of each song that I was accused of downloading. I would then check my puchased music collection for any songs that were on the list. Any purchased or borrowed CD that had a listed song would then be photographed. I would then take CASH (not a check nor credit card), and I would purchase the other songs from music stores, garage sales, or I would borrow from other people. I would photograph or produce these CD’s for several witnesses to see. This would prove that I puchased every song I downloaded beforehand. I would then sign an affidavit stating that the reason why I downloaded these these songs is because I am afraid to use the ones on the CD because they might contain a rootkit. I would give thius affidavit to my lawyer.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 19 Nov 2005 06:04:40 +0000

The people who are serious about trading music (not sharing) use private file servers. There are millions of them on the net so the enforcers better get busy.

They will never shut down trading of music.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 19 Nov 2005 04:42:37 +0000

“one wonders how much things have changed within the movie and music businesses since then”

Believe me, nothing has changed.

Morg

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 19 Nov 2005 04:16:52 +0000

“To complain about the very people you steal from for trying to protect their stuff is just LAME…”

Funny you should mention that.

“Sony BMG’s hired help, First4Internet, didn’t tap, it lifted [stole], GPL code direct from L.A.M.E….”

http://lame.sourceforge.net/
The best MP3 encoder, period.
How ironic…

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:04:37 +0000

Notice that the trolls can’t stand more than a one hit run. After that they are gone because they can’t stand the heat of the kitchen. Far easier it is to make a stupid, uninformed post and haul butt.

I guess they are earning their paychecks, lowly though they be.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:41:39 +0000

welcome to the real world ;D

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:13:17 +0000

Hi Beverly!

Don’t worry about your computer. Nothing Sony BMG has done is going to hurt you, not that it didn’t try. And you’re way better off without it =)

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:03:10 +0000

Thanks Russel.

Now for the “Troll” ……

1. Nowhere in my post did I mention that I download OR
purchase anything from the majors. So, how did you
ascertain that I “steal”. Does my support of boycotting the
“Majors” for THEIR criminal actions automatically make me
a “thief”, or are you simply psychic ?

2. The Oberholz/Strumpf (sp) Harvard/Yale study showed that
P2P firesharing has an overall effect of nearly ZERO on sales.
So where is the industry being hurt ?
I’ll tell you ( Well, you told me yourself actually ) …

“Go write and record your own music… stop stealing everybody else’s.. ”

Now, lot’s of people can do exaclty that.
Not only can they do THAT, they can distribute, get themselves”known” through P2P, with minimal cost.

If the industry can’t control P2P. well then, the middleman wastes away, and the playing field levels for ALL players.

I have ignored “industry” stuff for nearly 2 years now, neither buying or downloading it, content to fo to sites like Dmusic for true
independently produced music.

3. So how long has Sony been paying you to troll on the pro P2P
boards ?

Dreddsnik
Boycott-RIAA.com