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	<title>Comments on: Sweden&#8217;s kiddie porn Net filters</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7114/comment-page-1#comment-25171</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are using a &quot;custom&quot; DNS server, so it can&#039;t block if you &quot;dial&quot; by IP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are using a &#8220;custom&#8221; DNS server, so it can&#8217;t block if you &#8220;dial&#8221; by IP.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7114/comment-page-1#comment-25166</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s unlikely they are banning solely by IP address -- multi-hosted servers require the domain name in the http request so it can tell which site is wanted, no reason a filtering proxy can&#039;t do the same. Or they could even be simply blocking domain name lookup for the targeted sites. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s unlikely they are banning solely by IP address &#8212; multi-hosted servers require the domain name in the http request so it can tell which site is wanted, no reason a filtering proxy can&#8217;t do the same. Or they could even be simply blocking domain name lookup for the targeted sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7114/comment-page-1#comment-25161</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is just like any other issue really.  You cannot stop something that is inherrent to human nature even if it&#039;s a small percentage of the population.  You cannot totally stop it anhyways.  I agree that going after the people who host or distribute or create or pander this type of material is the solution.  Again,  if they ban these websites, what is to stop them from banning anything that falls into a category of obscene.  Please don&#039;t think i&#039;m saying that this topic isn&#039;t probably one of the worst topics on the internet, it definately needs to be put ahead of IP lawsuits and raids.  But millions of billions of dollars aren&#039;t being lost to child porn so it&#039;s obviously not that serious to our government.  

One freedom down.  not as many to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is just like any other issue really.  You cannot stop something that is inherrent to human nature even if it&#8217;s a small percentage of the population.  You cannot totally stop it anhyways.  I agree that going after the people who host or distribute or create or pander this type of material is the solution.  Again,  if they ban these websites, what is to stop them from banning anything that falls into a category of obscene.  Please don&#8217;t think i&#8217;m saying that this topic isn&#8217;t probably one of the worst topics on the internet, it definately needs to be put ahead of IP lawsuits and raids.  But millions of billions of dollars aren&#8217;t being lost to child porn so it&#8217;s obviously not that serious to our government.  </p>
<p>One freedom down.  not as many to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7114/comment-page-1#comment-25156</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be willing to bet a lot of these &quot;attempts to enter...&quot; are in fact pop-up ads that the person surfing has no idea are being opened by the dodgy websites they&#039;re visiting.

Now if they were talking about repeated attempts to visit the same pages within a short timespan or at regular intervals maybe they&#039;d be onto something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be willing to bet a lot of these &#8220;attempts to enter&#8230;&#8221; are in fact pop-up ads that the person surfing has no idea are being opened by the dodgy websites they&#8217;re visiting.</p>
<p>Now if they were talking about repeated attempts to visit the same pages within a short timespan or at regular intervals maybe they&#8217;d be onto something.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7114/comment-page-1#comment-25148</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2005 04:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I with the writer of the post that mentions this sort of stuff has no place on the net. However, I caution that once one accepts the idea of net filtering as the solution it isn&#039;t long till someone in government gets the great idea that if this worked then some other little problem can be taken care of the same way. Like someone with a different political view other than the proper one that supports whoever is in power, as an example. 

Luckily, I grew up without knowing what this is first hand. I thank my parents for that. I honestly can not concieve what this is first hand and I don&#039;t think any child should have to have this knowledge. The world is difficult enough to deal with without having this laid on top of it. 

This isn&#039;t just Sweden&#039;s problem. It is worldwide. There is some sort of twisted perception on the part of a small portion of humanity that gets off on this for whatever reason. That&#039;s the problem. Cure that and child porn will cease to be the issue. It is the curing that is the stumbling block but just like polio, I do hope somewhere in our future is a cure. One that doesn&#039;t include mind control for the populace at large in the fixing. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I with the writer of the post that mentions this sort of stuff has no place on the net. However, I caution that once one accepts the idea of net filtering as the solution it isn&#8217;t long till someone in government gets the great idea that if this worked then some other little problem can be taken care of the same way. Like someone with a different political view other than the proper one that supports whoever is in power, as an example. </p>
<p>Luckily, I grew up without knowing what this is first hand. I thank my parents for that. I honestly can not concieve what this is first hand and I don&#8217;t think any child should have to have this knowledge. The world is difficult enough to deal with without having this laid on top of it. </p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t just Sweden&#8217;s problem. It is worldwide. There is some sort of twisted perception on the part of a small portion of humanity that gets off on this for whatever reason. That&#8217;s the problem. Cure that and child porn will cease to be the issue. It is the curing that is the stumbling block but just like polio, I do hope somewhere in our future is a cure. One that doesn&#8217;t include mind control for the populace at large in the fixing.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7114/comment-page-1#comment-25140</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2005 01:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that kiddy porn is bad, but censoring is not a solution... what&#039;s next - hate speech? Site with location of speed cameras? Your favorite forum because someone posted something sick?

Go after owners of those sites and then educate &amp; help their customers...
if they need that kind of porn they definetly need profesional help...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that kiddy porn is bad, but censoring is not a solution&#8230; what&#8217;s next &#8211; hate speech? Site with location of speed cameras? Your favorite forum because someone posted something sick?</p>
<p>Go after owners of those sites and then educate &#038; help their customers&#8230;<br />
if they need that kind of porn they definetly need profesional help&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 21:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess they will have to get rid of the kiddy porn before they will be unblocked.  While I am E.F.F. all the way and am mostly against Internet censorship of most kinds, I really, really would like to see kiddy porn banished from the Net.  Even as much as I like to distance myself from helping the cops, kiddy porn is one thing that will cause me to side with the cops.  I have taken care of foster kids and have seen what this kind of abuse can do to children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess they will have to get rid of the kiddy porn before they will be unblocked.  While I am E.F.F. all the way and am mostly against Internet censorship of most kinds, I really, really would like to see kiddy porn banished from the Net.  Even as much as I like to distance myself from helping the cops, kiddy porn is one thing that will cause me to side with the cops.  I have taken care of foster kids and have seen what this kind of abuse can do to children.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 20:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adding to that, I rarely ever see a server that hosts a mere single website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adding to that, I rarely ever see a server that hosts a mere single website.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7114/comment-page-1#comment-25129</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 20:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what about sites that are virtual hosted and someone tries to visit a site that isnt kiddie porn but is located on the same server that the kiddie porn site is held? I assume they are blocking by IP address so alot of these numbers aren&#039;t going to be real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what about sites that are virtual hosted and someone tries to visit a site that isnt kiddie porn but is located on the same server that the kiddie porn site is held? I assume they are blocking by IP address so alot of these numbers aren&#8217;t going to be real.</p>
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