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	<title>Comments on: The &#8216;idea that may save Kazaa&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-26105</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2005 04:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-26105</guid>
		<description>I haven't been banned anywhere. I do read some of these types of forums and the mind set is there. Whether the guy is right or wrong, I don't care. It's the attitude of the Slyckers which turned this into more of a story than it is. This attitude pervades most forums and blogs. Someone visits and posts something and everyone attacks him with a vengence. The acid hurled around these forums is only because of the seemingly anonymity of the internet. If people were sitting around a table, more than half of the invective would be eliminated. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t been banned anywhere. I do read some of these types of forums and the mind set is there. Whether the guy is right or wrong, I don&#8217;t care. It&#8217;s the attitude of the Slyckers which turned this into more of a story than it is. This attitude pervades most forums and blogs. Someone visits and posts something and everyone attacks him with a vengence. The acid hurled around these forums is only because of the seemingly anonymity of the internet. If people were sitting around a table, more than half of the invective would be eliminated.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-26056</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 12:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-26056</guid>
		<description>What BS you are spouting!  I am not a member of Slyck, but reading this dumb ass lawyer's posts on Slyck made me piss myself. There was not one bit of evidence apart from what he claimed.  He then posted a newspaper link to an Aussie paper which rejected that it was his idea.  He had even sent the email to the wrong people!

It kinda is like a person making a claim to inventing something that has been made, and it was the input of hundreds of people - and it does happen.  Those sort of people are out there and they go to court only get kicked out for making frivolous claims.  It seems that you simply have a grudge against Slyck - perhaps you were banned there for BS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What BS you are spouting!  I am not a member of Slyck, but reading this dumb ass lawyer&#8217;s posts on Slyck made me piss myself. There was not one bit of evidence apart from what he claimed.  He then posted a newspaper link to an Aussie paper which rejected that it was his idea.  He had even sent the email to the wrong people!</p>
<p>It kinda is like a person making a claim to inventing something that has been made, and it was the input of hundreds of people - and it does happen.  Those sort of people are out there and they go to court only get kicked out for making frivolous claims.  It seems that you simply have a grudge against Slyck - perhaps you were banned there for BS?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-26041</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 07:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-26041</guid>
		<description>It seems the "Slyck" crowd are just interested in having posts being made from "their" members. They made more of a story of it by ganging up on the guy. Mostly, their attitude is typical in quite a few of these little clubs, arrogant, spoiled and full of themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems the &#8220;Slyck&#8221; crowd are just interested in having posts being made from &#8220;their&#8221; members. They made more of a story of it by ganging up on the guy. Mostly, their attitude is typical in quite a few of these little clubs, arrogant, spoiled and full of themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-26036</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 04:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-26036</guid>
		<description>Hey Nikki, when you face the court for cross examination in Sydney, you will either have to tell the truth revealing all the parties involved, all the way to Mark Dyne and the Skype Billions. Or you will have to perjure yourself. Your fancy words will count for nothing then. Of course you could always opt for a life on the run. Maybe you could do a Christopher Skase. You decided to turn your integrity off a long time ago. There is no right way to do the wrong thing. You are off track, and playing a losing game. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Nikki, when you face the court for cross examination in Sydney, you will either have to tell the truth revealing all the parties involved, all the way to Mark Dyne and the Skype Billions. Or you will have to perjure yourself. Your fancy words will count for nothing then. Of course you could always opt for a life on the run. Maybe you could do a Christopher Skase. You decided to turn your integrity off a long time ago. There is no right way to do the wrong thing. You are off track, and playing a losing game.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25980</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 15:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25980</guid>
		<description>All credit to P2Pnet for giving people the space to voice their opinion in this way. However, this guy appears to have some sort of attention seeking disorder, and I consider it a shame that you weren't a little more circumspect over his claims. 

He has posted everywhere he can, sending letters to newspapers and shouting rom the highest roofpoint that he is some sort of saviour to Kazaa.

He has had the temerity for taking credit for telling Kazaa to do what the Australian high court told him to do.

He has offered no credibile evidence to support his assertions save an email that he purportedly sent.

Sharman themselves deny knowing him or hearing from him.

He has thoroughly misunderstood the Australian Copy Act 1968 (as amended) S103, thus demonstrating the pitfalls of learning law from somewhere like Google.

His opinion has been rubbished at Slyck and by the Sydney Morning Herald (both of whom bothered to check out the facts before reporting them) and by Sharman themselves.

This man is a crackpot

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All credit to P2Pnet for giving people the space to voice their opinion in this way. However, this guy appears to have some sort of attention seeking disorder, and I consider it a shame that you weren&#8217;t a little more circumspect over his claims. </p>
<p>He has posted everywhere he can, sending letters to newspapers and shouting rom the highest roofpoint that he is some sort of saviour to Kazaa.</p>
<p>He has had the temerity for taking credit for telling Kazaa to do what the Australian high court told him to do.</p>
<p>He has offered no credibile evidence to support his assertions save an email that he purportedly sent.</p>
<p>Sharman themselves deny knowing him or hearing from him.</p>
<p>He has thoroughly misunderstood the Australian Copy Act 1968 (as amended) S103, thus demonstrating the pitfalls of learning law from somewhere like Google.</p>
<p>His opinion has been rubbished at Slyck and by the Sydney Morning Herald (both of whom bothered to check out the facts before reporting them) and by Sharman themselves.</p>
<p>This man is a crackpot</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25979</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 14:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25979</guid>
		<description>Icon Network got the email, not Sharman.  He may have sent an email, but he talking through his ass - he has so much brown stuff spewing from his mouth.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Icon Network got the email, not Sharman.  He may have sent an email, but he talking through his ass - he has so much brown stuff spewing from his mouth&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25978</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 14:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25978</guid>
		<description>To be honest, an no disrespect to the claimed originator of the idea, does it really matter? The Slyck crowd has really had enough. It would be most wise to just drop the matter. Once the point is made, continuation where it isn't welcome is a guarentee of either group censorship as they have already learned of it the first time or a ban for ignoring those who ensure that peace is kept within the forum. It is after all their job to do so within the forum. 

Your point was already made. Please understand, I don't post there so I am not one of the crowd from there. However I have already read the thread in its entirety. Simply, the folks at Slyck got the message the first time around. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, an no disrespect to the claimed originator of the idea, does it really matter? The Slyck crowd has really had enough. It would be most wise to just drop the matter. Once the point is made, continuation where it isn&#8217;t welcome is a guarentee of either group censorship as they have already learned of it the first time or a ban for ignoring those who ensure that peace is kept within the forum. It is after all their job to do so within the forum. </p>
<p>Your point was already made. Please understand, I don&#8217;t post there so I am not one of the crowd from there. However I have already read the thread in its entirety. Simply, the folks at Slyck got the message the first time around.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25977</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 14:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25977</guid>
		<description>He may be a moron but in the link you provided Sharman admits getting the emails from him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He may be a moron but in the link you provided Sharman admits getting the emails from him.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25974</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 13:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25974</guid>
		<description>This idiot posted this on Slyck:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/breaking/sharman-denies-lawyers-claim/2005/12/08/1133829710467.html

Sharman networks deny anything to do with this moron!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This idiot posted this on Slyck:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/breaking/sharman-denies-lawyers-claim/2005/12/08/1133829710467.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.smh.com.au/news/breaking/sharman-denies-lawyers-claim/2005/12/08/1133829710467.html</a></p>
<p>Sharman networks deny anything to do with this moron!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25970</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 11:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25970</guid>
		<description>For noticing and pointing out the obvious charade going on in Slyck regarding my posts and claim. Sure, I have no definite proof (yet) for my claim but some of the posts there have other motives than finding out the truth and contributing to the p2p community.

Itai
ileshem@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For noticing and pointing out the obvious charade going on in Slyck regarding my posts and claim. Sure, I have no definite proof (yet) for my claim but some of the posts there have other motives than finding out the truth and contributing to the p2p community.</p>
<p>Itai<br />
<a href="mailto:ileshem@gmail.com">ileshem@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25964</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 09:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25964</guid>
		<description>It seems this guy has raised a lot of hackles with his claims. The crowd at Slyck are having a particular nasty hissy fit with this guy's posts. Particularly from some guy who supposedly worked for Sharman and I suppose was given the boot or quit. Seems like that guy has a chip about the size of a city block on his shoulder. He seems more interested in seeing Kazaa go down than worry at all about the music cartel using it's success against Kazaa to attack ALL p2p..including the "good intentions" p2p applications. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems this guy has raised a lot of hackles with his claims. The crowd at Slyck are having a particular nasty hissy fit with this guy&#8217;s posts. Particularly from some guy who supposedly worked for Sharman and I suppose was given the boot or quit. Seems like that guy has a chip about the size of a city block on his shoulder. He seems more interested in seeing Kazaa go down than worry at all about the music cartel using it&#8217;s success against Kazaa to attack ALL p2p..including the &#8220;good intentions&#8221; p2p applications.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25896</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 18:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25896</guid>
		<description>I know the guy who wrote the above, and while I think he is an assclown himself of the highest order, I actually have to agree with him on this one.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the guy who wrote the above, and while I think he is an assclown himself of the highest order, I actually have to agree with him on this one&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25895</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 18:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25895</guid>
		<description>I agree with this guy who says, why have this article published, because as I see it, this guy is braggin that sharman networks "stole" his ideas.
WTF, so if 10 other people sent the same idea to sharman networks, does that mean, they have to credit each person???
And on another note, what does this person wants kazaa to say, Thanks for Mr.XYZ and we are closing Kazaa because of his ideas!!!! I mean p2p should be allowed in ALL COUNTRIES of the world, not banned by country WTF!!!
d_lame2003</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with this guy who says, why have this article published, because as I see it, this guy is braggin that sharman networks &#8220;stole&#8221; his ideas.<br />
WTF, so if 10 other people sent the same idea to sharman networks, does that mean, they have to credit each person???<br />
And on another note, what does this person wants kazaa to say, Thanks for Mr.XYZ and we are closing Kazaa because of his ideas!!!! I mean p2p should be allowed in ALL COUNTRIES of the world, not banned by country WTF!!!<br />
d_lame2003</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25894</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 18:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25894</guid>
		<description>The asshole who `wrote` this is a 2bit spammer who is trashing p2p sites with his nonsensical horse$hit...please for the love of this site remove this dud story &#038; ban the assclown who has been spamming this $hit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The asshole who `wrote` this is a 2bit spammer who is trashing p2p sites with his nonsensical horse$hit&#8230;please for the love of this site remove this dud story &#038; ban the assclown who has been spamming this $hit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25893</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 17:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25893</guid>
		<description>Yes it's garbage ans being spammed all over other p2p sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it&#8217;s garbage ans being spammed all over other p2p sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25891</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 17:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25891</guid>
		<description>Yes, one could implement a simply filter using the IP addess as the CIDRs that are assign to various countries are readily available from many sources.  The IP address is the only reliable indicator of exactly where packets are being sent.  Sharman could then say:  "We are not sending any data packets containing potentially infringing material to any IPs in Australia."

The question then becomes "What happens to those packets after they've reached their non-Australian destination?"   An Australian could simply use a proxy located in another jurisdiction and it would look like he was physically in that jurisdiction.  It doesn't even have to be a 'real' proxy service.  It could be his cousins computer in Aukland that's set up to relay.  Even simpler would be to use AOL where AOL's virtual network adapter gets assigned an AOL IP, giving it's location as Dulles Virginia, likely.

I suppose the filter by IP solution would satisfy the letter of the law in a technical way, but it would be very easy for someone to work around with little effort.

--TurboGeek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, one could implement a simply filter using the IP addess as the CIDRs that are assign to various countries are readily available from many sources.  The IP address is the only reliable indicator of exactly where packets are being sent.  Sharman could then say:  &#8220;We are not sending any data packets containing potentially infringing material to any IPs in Australia.&#8221;</p>
<p>The question then becomes &#8220;What happens to those packets after they&#8217;ve reached their non-Australian destination?&#8221;   An Australian could simply use a proxy located in another jurisdiction and it would look like he was physically in that jurisdiction.  It doesn&#8217;t even have to be a &#8216;real&#8217; proxy service.  It could be his cousins computer in Aukland that&#8217;s set up to relay.  Even simpler would be to use AOL where AOL&#8217;s virtual network adapter gets assigned an AOL IP, giving it&#8217;s location as Dulles Virginia, likely.</p>
<p>I suppose the filter by IP solution would satisfy the letter of the law in a technical way, but it would be very easy for someone to work around with little effort.</p>
<p>&#8211;TurboGeek</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25886</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 15:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25886</guid>
		<description>you haven't read the mission statement?

tsk, tsk. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you haven&#8217;t read the mission statement?</p>
<p>tsk, tsk. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25882</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 15:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25882</guid>
		<description>the best is close kazaa for all users go to emule, ares, edonkey and torrent secure networks without corrupt downloads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the best is close kazaa for all users go to emule, ares, edonkey and torrent secure networks without corrupt downloads.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25881</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 15:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25881</guid>
		<description>NO!! I thought of it first! :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NO!! I thought of it first! <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25871</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 10:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7231#comment-25871</guid>
		<description>lol... this guy is a hack trying to take credit for a LOGICAL choice... I thought of this months ago, no doubt others have as well... 

just cause the guy emailed Kazaa does not show that other people didn't email them first or that they even read his email..... 

how the heck does this make it as a news story at p2pnet?? this stupid garbage tarnishes p2pnet... *shakes his head*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol&#8230; this guy is a hack trying to take credit for a LOGICAL choice&#8230; I thought of this months ago, no doubt others have as well&#8230; </p>
<p>just cause the guy emailed Kazaa does not show that other people didn&#8217;t email them first or that they even read his email&#8230;.. </p>
<p>how the heck does this make it as a news story at p2pnet?? this stupid garbage tarnishes p2pnet&#8230; *shakes his head*</p>
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