RIAA sue ‘em all war is working
p2p news / p2pnet: According to Edgar Bronfman Jr, who heads up one of the Big Four members of the Organized Music family, “music piracy is abating as the record industry cracks down on offenders and sells more legal music online”.
So says STL Today, going on:
“The industry’s five-year legal fight against unauthorized downloading or sharing of songs is starting to pay off after thousands of music fans were sued and file-sharing companies such as Grokster Inc. were shut down. New York-based Warner Music says downloads accounted for 6 percent of its fiscal fourth-quarter revenue.”
Bronfman’s statement is, of course, complete rubbish. Far from paying off, the Big Four’s bizarre sue ‘em all marketing scheme is having no effect whatsoever.
At a minimum, 51 million people in America alone share music with each other via the p2p networks, and the number is going up, not down.
OM’s misnomered RIAA is currently victimizing around 17,000 file sharers, including young children, but so far, not one case has actually gone to trial, although that’s about to change, thanks to New York mom Patricia Santangelo.
We say ‘misnomered’ because RIAA stands for Recording Industry Association of America and yet the companies that own it are Sony BMG, Japan and Germany, Vivendi Univesal, France, EMI, Britain, and Warner, ostensibly American but with a Canadian at its helm.
Meanwhile, in the US in November last year, 5,445,275 people were simultaneously logged onto one or more of the p2p networks at any one time, says p2p research firm BigChampagne.
But by November this year, the number had risen to 6,530,408.
Organized Music claims file sharers are thieves. But nothing has been stolen.
It says file sharing is costing it billions of dollars in lost sales. And yet it’s never been able to prove that a file shared equals a sale lost.
It says its sue ‘em all campaign is driving more and more people into the arms of the corporate online music sites it supplies. And yet only iTunes, which isn’t a true music site, could be said to have a presence online, and even that doesn’t amount to a hill of beans compared to what’s happening on the p2p nets.
Stay tuned.
Also read:-
STL Today – Warner chief says piracy is declining, December 6, 2005
currently victimizing – 754 new RIAA p2p lawsuits, December 1, 2005
Patricia Santangelo – 1st RIAA trial: victim to defend herself, December 6, 2005
December 8th, 2005 at 5:35 pm
Fluff
Why should copyright holders be given protection for their creation for life plus ?
Their end effort produces a product of no value
Drug companies spend years developing a drug that saves or improves life, yet are protected for only twenty years
Farmers spend millions and get payed at rates that their grandfathers were payed.
The man who repairs your car does not get payed each time the car starts after a repair.
The plumber does not get payed each time you flush after a repair.
When Girl scouts sell you a cookie it,s yours.
When you buy a car, the manufacture does not have the right to tell you how to drive it.
If no music was played from this day on:
People would not die from its loss
There would be food to eat
there would be cloths to ware
there would be water to drink
there would be homes to live in
there would be cars to drive
there would be air to breath
there would be planes to fly
Life would change very little if at all, music is nothing more then fluff, how it’s become a top priority
for the government is beyond me.
The fluff salesman has done their job well i guess.
December 8th, 2005 at 9:12 pm
YEAH, AND THE WAR IN IRAQ IS WORKING OUT TOO. PER BUSH VICTORY IS NEAR, AFTER THE WAR WAS WON TWICE BEFORE BY THE COMBINED BUSHES.
December 9th, 2005 at 12:57 am
More BS propaganda. Most likely scenario…
“I think the best policy is to declare victory and leave,” said Senator George Aiken (R – Vermont) during the Vietnam war. I think that’s a policy the entertainment industry is adopting in its ongoing battle against peer-to-peer file sharing.
Aiken’s point, for those of you light on history, is that when the war is unwinnable, you simply redefine “victory” and get the heck out.
This logic would explain why the recording industry keeps saying that illegal file sharing is almost finished, yet the amount of stuff available on peer-to-peer (P2P) networks remains staggering.
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/andrewkantor/2005-12-02-file-sharing-lives_x.htm
They never had a snowball’s chance in hell of winning…
Only 2% of people who paid a fee to download music from the Internet cited that the contentious legal issues surrounding online music distribution concerned them. This statistic comes from Ipsos-Reid’s latest research on the consumption of digital media titled “Cultivating Desire: Investing in Market Insights to Reap Digital Content Profits”. This particular paper focuses on ways for content providers to tap into the Internet as an evolving distribution mechanism of mass media. The shockingly low number should come as a warning to the Record Industry Association of America (RIAA) who have so far sued thousands for file sharing in the expectation that they can scare consumers in buying instead of trading. First, this is not a way to tap into this audience and second the tactic isn’t working.
http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/5002/tempo2005.html
December 9th, 2005 at 2:18 am
Gee, now they’re stealing ideas from the iraqi minister for “information”. Have these ppl no shame?
December 9th, 2005 at 4:27 am
if the music industry sue ‘em all is working.How come there has been no
attacks against Canadians yet…..interesting eh!
December 9th, 2005 at 5:04 am
I think that the sue ‘ em all war is working!!!!!! More people are starting to boycott major label music!!!! Do the word’s Digging your own Grave mean anything to you RIAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 10th, 2005 at 3:05 am
Actually it is. You should talk to those who are there. My nephew is in his second tour of duty there, and when he saw what the MSM was reporting about the war while he was home on leave, he got pissed off. And refused to watch any newscast after that.
He told story after story people people coming up to them and thanking them, hugging them, giving them drinks and food while they walked through streets. Of children coming to the base to sing a song as a way of thanking troops who on their own time, rebuilt a school and got school supplies delivered to them from the US. He told me he hears the words “Thank You” at least 100 times a day and those who don’t speak openly, nod and smile in the way of acknowledgement.
I openly challenge Yee Hah man (White Flag Dean) to personally go to IRAQ and offer to surrender to the terrorists. Or Micheal (FATASS) Moore or Barabara (IMA BITCH) Striesand to do the same. The following week their headless bodies will be found. Hell let’s make it a fivesome send Pelosi and Boxer along too.
December 10th, 2005 at 3:43 am
While Edgar Jr. may be a Canadian citizen, he (and his father, who manned the helm prior) have lived in New York City for many, many years.
The family fortune came not from the Music Industry, but from liquor, notably the Seagrams brand. Interestingly, the family’s fortune swelled during the Prohibition Era in the USA (1919-1933) when it’s products were getting smuggled into the US by bootleggers (like Joe Kennedy.) Edgar should be a careful about being too critical of filesharers as it would be a bit like the pot calling the kettle black.
–TG
December 10th, 2005 at 3:14 pm
After trying to make an intelligent argument, you wrap up your rant with ignorant insults. BTW, you convinced me of nothing and I have family and friends in Iraq. I had family in the Civil War, War of 1812, WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Desert Storm, and currently in the Iraq War. I am appauled at your comments, and think you need to realize what you are saying and read some history books about civilization, governments, war, terrorism, and insurgency… Then attempt to form solid, educated, and meaningful conclusion instead of silly attacks. Howard Dean, for example, has written some very interesting ideas and represented what many americans feel right now. I won’t comment on the others you insulted, but I won’t fall for YOUR uninformed propaganda.
December 11th, 2005 at 12:12 am
The pount I was making is that Pelosi, Dean, Striesand, and the others I mentioned I consider to be offering aide and comfort to the enemy. And that the enemy isn’t the IRAQ people but a small group of criminals who had (and still have a chance to participate in their governments foundation but instead choose to attack their own countrymen who are trying to move forward. They have no no qualm about killing anyone. Right at the moment they are holding 4 peace activists who are trying to stop the war.
I lived in an Islamic country for 2 1/2 years where with my height, and strawberry blond hair I stood out like a sore thumb. The town I lived in had a Saddam Hussein Blvd. (Kota Bharu, Malaysia) I studied Islam while there to help do the multimedia cd we were working on, and I can tell you that these bombings beheadings and executions aren’t part of Islam. Its as much perverted as the extreme right wing Christians are. No where, even under Jihad is it acceptable to kill innocents.
As for your family fine, so were mine. I was born in Roanoke, VA but spent the first two years of my life on Camp Lejune where my dad was a drill instructor. He served in both WWII (on Guadelcanal) and Korea (Inchon) , Both times under command of Chesty Puller. I met Chesty when I was 8. He wouldn’t take crap off of anyone, including politicians. He said it because he believed it.
I was in the ARMY during Vietnam but ended up on Okinawa, where I ran two different communications sites that provided communications to the troops in Vietnam.
I don’t know about anything other than my Grandmother was in the DAR, So I must have a relative that fought in the Revolutionary War,
and that my grandfather was in WWI. But What I do know is that to cut and run the way the five names I mentioned previously would have us do, would be a huge mistake, and embolden the terrorists.
Turn the other cheek and you’re ,most likely to get hit again, knock the beans out of the person who hit you, they will think twice before doing it again. I’ve personally seen evidence of that many times over, beginning when I was 6 years old.
As for the uniformed propaganda line, no, it is not propaganda, its just my opinion and I could be wrong. (forgive me Dennis).
December 11th, 2005 at 7:18 pm
I appreciate your pleasant tone. I don’t have the specific theatre information handy for my family. It’s a tough issue. IMO, it was a mistake to ever go into Iraq by a president with his own agenda. Iran or South Korea would have been a better choice to protect America than powerless Iraq. The best protection is not to occupy Islamic nations at this point in history. That has long term negative effects.
We are entitled to our own conclusions and opinions. I respect yours, and the way you’ve stated them.