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p2p news / p2pnet: Guess what? You know your digital music library? It’s not a library. It’s hoarding.
The entertainment cartels have already pirated the word ‘pirate’ to replace ‘counterfeit’ and/or ‘duplicate’ and/or ’share’. It’s so much more PR-friendly - more emotive and evocative. And it works so well in a sound-bite or a headline.
Now Sony BMG, Vivendi Universal, Warner Music and EMI plan to do the same with ‘collection’ and/or ‘library’ when applied to file sharing, and they’ve chosen the shadowy NPD Group to deliver the message via a ’study’.
Study finds many U.S. homes hoarding downloaded music looks so underhanded, almost criminal, doesn’t it? Much better than Many US homes have large digital music collections.
"Most American homes have at least one digital music file on their computer, more evidence that Internet music piracy is widespread, according to a study released this week," says the Gannett (?) News Service, going on:
"More than two out of three U.S. households with Internet access had a least one digital music file on their computer while more than half had at least 50 songs, said NPD Group."
And you know what that means!
PIRACY !!!
HOARDING !!!
Read:-
Gannett - Study finds many U.S. homes hoarding downloaded music, December 15, 2005
shadowy NPD Group - Happy Christmas from the RIAA, December 15, 2005
December 16th, 2005 at 8:43 pm
I have over 50 creative commons licensed mp3s, jane sibbery and harvey danger (all free and ‘legal’ for download). The industry and their stat pushers can hoard my nuts in their mouths.
December 16th, 2005 at 8:52 pm
wow!!! i stopped counting after 30,000!!!
December 16th, 2005 at 8:56 pm
lol… what percentage have over 1,000… 5,000… 10,000… etc.. that would be a fun survey, who has the biggest library.
December 16th, 2005 at 9:15 pm
hahahahaha p2pnet rocks !!!!
December 16th, 2005 at 9:50 pm
Take a look round soulseek. You’ll find significant numbers of people with >30,000 and a few >50,000
December 16th, 2005 at 11:22 pm
“Most American homes have at least one digital music file on their computer, more evidence that Internet music piracy is widespread, according to a study released this week,” says the Gannett (?) News Service…”
One music file on most american’s home computers is “evidence that Internet music piracy is widespread”?
Huh?
You’ll find some amount of cash in “most american homes” as well, which is clear evidence that most americans are stealing money….
December 17th, 2005 at 12:17 am
3992 albums; mostly underground and hard to find rap music; very little owned by RIAA;
December 17th, 2005 at 12:27 am
thief!!! thief !!!
December 17th, 2005 at 12:28 am
I have a very large collection of CD’S. All of which were paid for with good old USofA currency.
I copied each and every one of them to several folders on my PC.
I find it so much more convenient to have the music I like on my hard drive.
I sure as heck don’t consider this PIRACY
Bob Conti
Thousand Oaks
California
December 17th, 2005 at 1:23 am
More magic numbers I see. How has the capacity of a player got anything to do with the price of eggs in China?
Crap my refridgerator has so many cubic inches of space in it. Part of it is filled, part of it is empty. I am sure by these figures and what they pull from it, that the grocery martkets can expect a flood of customers to buy everything on thier shelves, across the nation so that we can pack every last remaining square inch of the refridgerators’ capacity, regardless of if shelf space exists or not within. I also presume we will have to be expected to be the victim of a lawsuit if we don’t fill them to total capacity, eh? What is it this time, denying farmers their income, which like artists don’t recoup their expenses because the middlemen get all the profit. Or is it we are theiving from from the profits of the grocery stores by not purchasing to the total capacity of our refridgerators?
Hello!!! Is there anyone at home at these survey takers and interpurters of this data that actually believe we buy these figures or that the wanted belief that we will accept these ideas as insights from on high? Is there any common sense or any thought that figures should be checked by the major media before such nonsense is put out for consumption? No wonder the newspapers and other media are now seeing continual drops in viewership and readership, as those whose get their info from these sources figure out that they are being spoonfed a pack of slanted lies.
Since the patronage has left those sources, their only remaining hope is to invade where that patronage has fled. Since we refuse to buy this crap that means the only hope for established media is to lock down the internet to where the news and entertainment can only be gotten from them. I for one, rarely go to major media sites on the net, had enough of them on the street. So that means that they will have to shut down all avenues that don’t lead to them to survive. Somehow I think that is out of the reach of most of them, being as the world is a huge place and their grasp only reaches so far.
Oh, does anyone have a spare wheelbarrow? I find that I have need to move my hoard to another location before it is found and counted…
December 17th, 2005 at 3:01 am
I would like to make a few points as a 40ish, middle class,etc.
Record industry please listen to the average citizen.
I tell my children not to file share, monitor them, and most importantly explain why not to file share. My child asks “why is
a movie dvd as expensive as a music cd? I had no explanation, do
you? I buy a lot of dvds. (theater $42 bucks last time, dvd $20 if
I can’t wait, less if can, a good deal all around)
I am your worst nightmare, older with disposable income, and I can
hold a grudge for years, just ask MCI and AOL. I have never file
shared in my life. I listen to music from Gregorian chant to ACDC.
I have not paid full price for a music cd in years. The sales, flea
market,etc. I pay less than $10 for any cd. Price and content will win everytime. You are poisoning the well for the customers that you seek to win back.
We are not file sharing on the internet, we are
sharing hard drives. What do you think we do once our hard drives
are full of our vinyl and cd collections? We have the income and
can hold a grudge so that we record digital radio, break up into MP3
and share, share. You will not stop the kids, they have time to play
around. Lower the prices and let us do what we want with what we
spend our money on. If I buy a sony track I can’t play on an IPod
very easily. Hell, I buy new notebooks and MP3 players every year.
The movie industry is more responsive to consumer desires. Sony
screwed up and it took weeks before they realized their asses were on fire. Instead the RIAA is cheating musicians of money,
angering legitimate customers, and keeping prices artificially high.
Explain to me why an $80 mil movie dvd costs $20 dollars and
a music cd costs $20. Are the musicians being paid that much?
There is not enough coke in the world for a musical group to cut
an album to justify that. I will support a group that sets up a
distribution network and production in order to gut the blouted
music industry. What do you think of an independent union that
musicians can join and let the music speak for itself. The musicians
won’t have to rely on ticket sales and t-shirts to make money.
I am now stepping off my soapbox and putting down the bullhorn.
May the RIAA choke on it’s business model, I think they will.
December 17th, 2005 at 3:38 am
Geesh, I wish I could fit more on my little jalopy of a computer! This has got to be one of the funniest stories I’ve read here, but leave it to Jon to add a bit of humor when we need it - what with this TPM, Sony Rootkit, closed down P2P apps, getting sued by the RIAA, and all the other gritty stuff going on - this made me laugh!
You see, I fill out those NPD surveys and when I get enough points they send me about $20.00. They didn’t ask me on this one though, never even got a notice of a survey. Wonder why??
Mea Culpa, mea culpa, forgive me for the 100 or so tunes I share. That just isn’t enough! Need a bigger limo I guess.
December 17th, 2005 at 4:12 am
It’s great that there selling systems for the digital entertainment era, I guess im hoarding my own paid for cds that I rip to my paid for computer so I can use programs like meedio and Media center to listen to my whole music collection at the touch of a button. Or my movies that I rip to my digital entertainment system so I dont have to change Dvds, CDs or any other media.
I want to not be able to put a play list of movies, music and music videos together so I dont have to mess with it when I have a party.
These assholes are scrambling for what ever excuse they can.
Tell you what you lame brained can’t see past your nose greedy coporate thugs. To damn bad, your not going to stop it, your only going to hurt your self. This crap you been slamming out for entertainment is repeat water downed garbage, like the 9th remake of King Kong. Hey thats original! Then of course there is the music that I pay for to get one good song while the rest are simply hacked crap and once again rehashed repeated songs.
You need to embrace the comming era, but you won’t. Instead you will keep comming up with more excuses and spend tons of money trying to stop it. Every piece of music on my computer I have owned at one time or another, so RIAA and the rest. kiss my rosey red and go broke so we can have some peace.
December 17th, 2005 at 5:50 am
One song is Hording??????? I will protect it with my life!!! You will not get my one song!!!! Never!!!!!!
December 17th, 2005 at 6:33 am
The RIAA is just going to have to accept the fact that the old business model of completely reselling all of their so called music every time a new storage format comes out just isn’t going to fly anymore. With the digital age once we buy it, that’s it, it’s ours forever. We will even be able to pass it down to our kids, and our kids kids. No more forever milking the same product, they will have to make much more new and quality music, and we know how good they are at that.
December 17th, 2005 at 6:39 am
Well it’s obvious the cartels aren’t hoarding any brains, isn’t it?
December 17th, 2005 at 7:14 am
This “piracy” business is a load of bullshit. Real piracy involves guys on boats with guns stealing the goods on another boat. THAT’s piracy.
What the RIAA and MPAA don’t seem to understand is that you can’t steal what you can’t touch.
If I was to walk into a shop and walk out with a CD or DVD without paying for it, that’s stealing, as the store no longer has the disc or any money for the disc.
If I walk into a store with a laptop, make an ISO of a CD or DVD on the laptop’s hard drive and put the disc back on the shelf, that’s not stealing, as the store still has the disc.
See the difference? Evidently the RIAA and MPAA are too blind to see it.
December 17th, 2005 at 7:24 am
I count about 280 books in my house. Apparently I’m now a Book Hoarder.
I’m also an Old Computer Magazine Hoarder, a Food Hoarder (judging by the number of items in my fridge and cupboard), a DVD Hoarder (50+ DVDs), a Clothing Hoarder, a Photo Hoarder and a Piece-Of-Paper-With-Illegable-Scribbling-On-It Hoarder
What are YOU “hoarding”, you hoarders?
December 17th, 2005 at 9:05 am
“Most American homes have at least one digital music file on their computer…”
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that’s because the effing WMP10 automatically installs a music clip from Beck and most people don’t know where to find it and delete it.
December 17th, 2005 at 9:36 am
i’m hoarding…
…legally purchased dvds and cds
…what little money i have
…snot ( i’ll have to blow my nose soon)
December 17th, 2005 at 8:47 pm
rose name sweet
December 17th, 2005 at 11:27 pm
All right! Clap clap clap:)
December 18th, 2005 at 10:24 am
Don’t forget games that use individual files for sounds or music tracks instead of making one big file for all sound. I’ve got heaps of games with wav sound effects and mp3 music. I’m sure they’d all be counted.
December 18th, 2005 at 11:41 am
I have shit loads , over 30,000 upwards but the fact is i am not stupid enough to share em, i bag an album at a time then transfer them to dvdr’s anyone who is sharing hundreds of mp3’s has got to be stupid
December 19th, 2005 at 1:13 pm
July 18th, 2006 at 9:53 pm
Everyone does it, the record companies have to get with the times… It still buy some CDs [it makes me feel good inside, probably cuz the only music device connected to my surround sound is my DVD which doesn’t play burned CDs, so I still buy CDs so I can play on that]. If the companies try to stop us from downloading then I WON’T BUY ANY CDs AT ALL, I’D SOONER GO BACK TO USING TAPES!!!!!
July 18th, 2006 at 9:54 pm
PS I AM NOT A ANOMONMOUS COWARD I AM TOO LAZY TO MAKE AN ACCOUNT ON A SITE I WILL PROBABLY NEVER VISIT AGAIN!! Calling people names isn’t going to convicne them to make an account it convinces me to never visiti this site again!!!!