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Google bans kozoru

p2p news / p2pnet: "Let us suppose, for a moment, you are a small company (like kozoru) and you’ve figured out a way to take results from another search engine (like, say, Google) and run them through your own statistical approach and do the following," writes The Lone Ronin on his blog:

1. Keyword search their system
2. Grab 100-200 results
3. Parse the pages (all of them) from the results in #2
4. Provide 1-3 "answers" to your results

"Now, let us suppose these results are more authoritative, more relevant and better (according to 120 random people who test the system) than the results from the search engine.

"Now, let us suppose that you have shown those results to the search engine and they were mostly excited about what you were doing, but couldn’t decide how or if your results were able to be monetized – after all, less results means less space for ads and so forth.

"Then, out of nowhere, you were suddenly banned from using their system to show them how you make search better."

Bizarre?

"Well, that exact scenario was my Christmas present from Google," the Lone Ronin goes on. "It makes very little sense to me because other ‘meta search’ systems (Brainboost, Dogpile, etc.) all do the same thing and for far more users.

"Before you get too upset, remember that the only people who ever saw this system were Google, Yahoo, MSN and the other partners we were speaking with after the Web 2.0 conference. This wasn’t a generally open (or available) system and there were less than 6 companies with access to the results, including kozoru. And remember, no one – other than Google – has ever banned us or even hinted at banning us for this limited-use, demo-only system.

"This seems no different than 37 Signals ‘Making Google Better’ web mash-up.

"And, all I wanted was a phone call…"

On InfoWorld, "Good idea, right?" – posts Dave Rosenberg, continuing:

"Sure, until Google decides you are a threat or pest and block you from using their APIs. Think this will be the only example of this? I would say this is merely the first example of Google shutting down prospective competition and the tip of the evil iceberg.

"Of course, I personally wouldn’t bet my business on using another companies online service, but all signs pointed to the fact that Google would keep these things open. I have no doubt that the comments that we are google-bashing will start asap, but do us a favor and actually think about it for a second. I like google search, but the blind faith really needs to stop."

People go to search engines everyday to find answers to their questions, says kozoru on its web page, but, "What they find instead are search technologies that force them to break their questions into keywords. They’re then asked to sift through a haystack of search results to find that elusive needle.

"That’s why we asked, ‘Can a search engine work for the people, instead of the people working for a search engine’?"

"At kozoru, we believe people should be able to ask a search engine questions and get back answers. That’s why kozoru’s technology isn’t based on keywords. Instead, kozoru understands how words are connected to one another and the relationships they have in common."

(Thanks, Jazz)

Also See:
blogBanned by Google, December 19, 2005
InfoWorldGoogle bans Kozoru from searching, December 20, 2005

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3 Responses to “Google bans kozoru”

  1. Reader's Write Says:

    i agree that they shouldn’t be blocked from the system, especially if google was deliberately destroying results. if their system is better, they should spider their own pages probably.

  2. Reader's Write Says:

    Boy o’ boy, this smells ….sniff…sniff…sniff….yes…it…does…
    exactly smells just like the evil Msft!
    That’s exactly their strategy….kill anything better or threatening…Google’s going down the dark path.
    Sad.
    The people’s needs mean nothing. Revenue is the holy grail.

    Doing this will lead to their demise, just as Msft is feeling now…the slow downhill slide to the bottom where they belong.

  3. Reader's Write Says:

    F%&$ google, they did the same thing to me recently actually.
    My suggestion is this. Google never asks for premission to search other sites and reuse their content so why should we have to? I developed a way or parsing their results without their API and I would happily supply it to anyone who wants it. gregslost |at| yahoo |dot| com.

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