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	<title>Comments on: P2p file sharing is legal, says France</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-27216</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 05:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for the French . They are finally doing something worthwhile.  IF I can loan my friend my cd. and he can burn a copy of it what is the difference in sharing online. Oh yeah ! Its easier.Duh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for the French . They are finally doing something worthwhile.  IF I can loan my friend my cd. and he can burn a copy of it what is the difference in sharing online. Oh yeah ! Its easier.Duh.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26912</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 03:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26912</guid>
		<description>As this law is fought with a rare violence by the cartels and the governement and will be turned back, soon we'll have :

0 to France, 0 to America, 0 to the internet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As this law is fought with a rare violence by the cartels and the governement and will be turned back, soon we&#8217;ll have :</p>
<p>0 to France, 0 to America, 0 to the internet</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26890</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2005 20:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26890</guid>
		<description>lol . 

1 to France , 0 to America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol . </p>
<p>1 to France , 0 to America.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26888</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2005 20:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26888</guid>
		<description>"Even if you don't get it passed this time, its still a great victory and historic step in the right direction."

Right. The law will probably be blocked by the senate, and the original project - a super-DMCA + Induce act ! - will become the law.

...A law that will give the same results than the DMCA gives to the entertainment cartel in the US : None !

Once they'll have noticed this - within 3 or 4 years I think - They will remember that, a night before christmas 2005, the right solution was found...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Even if you don&#8217;t get it passed this time, its still a great victory and historic step in the right direction.&#8221;</p>
<p>Right. The law will probably be blocked by the senate, and the original project - a super-DMCA + Induce act ! - will become the law.</p>
<p>&#8230;A law that will give the same results than the DMCA gives to the entertainment cartel in the US : None !</p>
<p>Once they&#8217;ll have noticed this - within 3 or 4 years I think - They will remember that, a night before christmas 2005, the right solution was found&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26876</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2005 05:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26876</guid>
		<description>Fantastic. France is too big of a market for hollywood and other IP dealers to ignore, so instead of suing their customers into submission they might actually have to come up with a way to successfully market product in a p2p environment. When they do, maybe some of it will spill over here to the US, and they will stop demanding that file sharers get more time in prison then rapists. I can dream :)

Great job anyways guys, Its refreshing to see that there are still groups of people in the world who are still willing to fight hard even for the smaller issues. Even if you don't get it passed this time, its still a great victory and historic step in the right direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic. France is too big of a market for hollywood and other IP dealers to ignore, so instead of suing their customers into submission they might actually have to come up with a way to successfully market product in a p2p environment. When they do, maybe some of it will spill over here to the US, and they will stop demanding that file sharers get more time in prison then rapists. I can dream <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Great job anyways guys, Its refreshing to see that there are still groups of people in the world who are still willing to fight hard even for the smaller issues. Even if you don&#8217;t get it passed this time, its still a great victory and historic step in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26871</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2005 02:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26871</guid>
		<description>I've mailed two of our representatives today (Francois Bayrou and Jean Dionis du Séjour) explaining them that, altough I'm a songwriter &#038; future producer (will launch my company in January), but also a former IT student :

- Why a DMCA alike legislation won't solve the P2P problem the majors are facing (just see how it "solved" the problem in the USA)

- Why, as repression seems to be non working, the only possible options are or the "Global license" (+- the EFF license project) or a complete deregulation, in other words, that being against this project means even less money for the rightholders.

I also posted several posts in Christian Vanneste (The governement's "rapporteur" of this law) 's blog (vanneste.over-blog.org)

I feel I did my job (no, all french men are not Weasels!). Now, freedom lovers in France, follow my exemple and mail your representatives. Move on !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve mailed two of our representatives today (Francois Bayrou and Jean Dionis du Séjour) explaining them that, altough I&#8217;m a songwriter &#038; future producer (will launch my company in January), but also a former IT student :</p>
<p>- Why a DMCA alike legislation won&#8217;t solve the P2P problem the majors are facing (just see how it &#8220;solved&#8221; the problem in the USA)</p>
<p>- Why, as repression seems to be non working, the only possible options are or the &#8220;Global license&#8221; (+- the EFF license project) or a complete deregulation, in other words, that being against this project means even less money for the rightholders.</p>
<p>I also posted several posts in Christian Vanneste (The governement&#8217;s &#8220;rapporteur&#8221; of this law) &#8217;s blog (vanneste.over-blog.org)</p>
<p>I feel I did my job (no, all french men are not Weasels!). Now, freedom lovers in France, follow my exemple and mail your representatives. Move on !</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26867</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2005 02:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26867</guid>
		<description>à propos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>à propos</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26865</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2005 01:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26865</guid>
		<description>holy crap, you mean there is a country where murderers actually get more time than a file sharer????  Somebody call the jedi!!! We got a job for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holy crap, you mean there is a country where murderers actually get more time than a file sharer????  Somebody call the jedi!!! We got a job for him.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26862</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2005 23:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26862</guid>
		<description>in spain too is legal the p2p if is for copy private and not for sale, there are sentences of judges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in spain too is legal the p2p if is for copy private and not for sale, there are sentences of judges.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26854</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26854</guid>
		<description>Indeed Spain is seen from France as an internet freedom country.
Will we become as free as Spain ? Even if the 1st vote means yes, the governement will probably overturn it.

French internet rights groups like the ODEBI league (www.odebi.org) already ask for the demission of the french ministry of culture for it's effort to overturn a parliementary vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed Spain is seen from France as an internet freedom country.<br />
Will we become as free as Spain ? Even if the 1st vote means yes, the governement will probably overturn it.</p>
<p>French internet rights groups like the ODEBI league (www.odebi.org) already ask for the demission of the french ministry of culture for it&#8217;s effort to overturn a parliementary vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26851</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2005 20:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26851</guid>
		<description>I beleive that file sharing is legal in Spain, if there is no profit.

Even outright copying and selling for profit will only result in a slap of the wrist to the infringer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I beleive that file sharing is legal in Spain, if there is no profit.</p>
<p>Even outright copying and selling for profit will only result in a slap of the wrist to the infringer.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26850</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26850</guid>
		<description>Not for a long time. The governement decided to do everything it can to overturn this. And it can do it.

The only way to keep this law alive are massive demonstrations. Now the subject has made it to the mainstream media thanks to this vote, we have chances to mobilize.

Fighting days ahead for french filesharers. Each generation has it's political fight in France. Legalisation of filesharing of copyrighted works will be the one of our generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not for a long time. The governement decided to do everything it can to overturn this. And it can do it.</p>
<p>The only way to keep this law alive are massive demonstrations. Now the subject has made it to the mainstream media thanks to this vote, we have chances to mobilize.</p>
<p>Fighting days ahead for french filesharers. Each generation has it&#8217;s political fight in France. Legalisation of filesharing of copyrighted works will be the one of our generation.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26849</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26849</guid>
		<description>well france may do something right for a change, france get's 1 THAT A BOY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well france may do something right for a change, france get&#8217;s 1 THAT A BOY</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26848</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7391#comment-26848</guid>
		<description>Too bad the Governement called for a 2nd vote on this issue, calling the most majors friendly "representatives" for this 2nd vote. In other words, it won't be legalized...

...But it's anyway a milestone that a parliament has for the first time in history, not only debated but also adopted a law going in the direction of EFF's P2P License, and even if it won't pass now, this gives some serious arguments to those who fight for this (many associations in France do) , and even if it will probably not pass now, it will in a near future... provided the front for this license keeps united and strong.

Keep on fighting, brothers !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad the Governement called for a 2nd vote on this issue, calling the most majors friendly &#8220;representatives&#8221; for this 2nd vote. In other words, it won&#8217;t be legalized&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;But it&#8217;s anyway a milestone that a parliament has for the first time in history, not only debated but also adopted a law going in the direction of EFF&#8217;s P2P License, and even if it won&#8217;t pass now, this gives some serious arguments to those who fight for this (many associations in France do) , and even if it will probably not pass now, it will in a near future&#8230; provided the front for this license keeps united and strong.</p>
<p>Keep on fighting, brothers !</p>
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