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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7420/comment-page-1#comment-28003</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes...but here is the rub.  The movie industry is putting itself out of business.  DVD sales are down so are movie ticket sales.  When DVD&#039;s first came out everyone wanted them.  they went out and replaced their collections or started their own new collections.  One of the srtong pulls to this new technology was the ability to play a dvd anywhere.  In the car, on the computer, portable dvd players laptops, tv&#039;s etc.  After people started doing this it became apperant that the dvd&#039;s where not very hardy and many were ruined easily so people wanted to back up their dvds and play the copies now they can&#039;t do that easily and we have stopped &quot;wasting&quot; money on a product that breaks easily and has so many obstacles to playing your movie the way you want.  I have not bought a dvd in a year because of DRM and I have not bought MUSIC CD in that long either.  The last time my 50.00 xbox game got scratched was the last time I wasted money on a game either.  As of now there are no DRM on books and I buy them all the time.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes&#8230;but here is the rub.  The movie industry is putting itself out of business.  DVD sales are down so are movie ticket sales.  When DVD&#8217;s first came out everyone wanted them.  they went out and replaced their collections or started their own new collections.  One of the srtong pulls to this new technology was the ability to play a dvd anywhere.  In the car, on the computer, portable dvd players laptops, tv&#8217;s etc.  After people started doing this it became apperant that the dvd&#8217;s where not very hardy and many were ruined easily so people wanted to back up their dvds and play the copies now they can&#8217;t do that easily and we have stopped &#8220;wasting&#8221; money on a product that breaks easily and has so many obstacles to playing your movie the way you want.  I have not bought a dvd in a year because of DRM and I have not bought MUSIC CD in that long either.  The last time my 50.00 xbox game got scratched was the last time I wasted money on a game either.  As of now there are no DRM on books and I buy them all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7420/comment-page-1#comment-27799</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2005 09:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember a while back reading a post on the afterdawn website   on how they did not give give a hoot and a holler and &quot; did not give a damn &quot;about people in the united states hollywood and the dmca. 

I hate playing the devils&#039;s advocate in saying it only would have been a matter of time the country of finland would have moved closer to the united states and great britain in thought and position about piracy ang copyright issues and resulting draconian changes in the finnish copyright law.

FAIR USE RIGHTS IS JUST A MYTH.

EVENTUALLY THIS HAPPEN IN CANADA LUMP IT OR LEAVE IT.................

If one isn&#039;t careful arrogance and ignorance can be bliss and one could easily get fooled. 

There was a lot of misquided young people who thought that unlimited fair use rights would never end in finland and finland will have to join in the united states&#039; miserable concepts about copyright and patent law where it is ILLEGAL to copy a prerecorded dvd.

 AGAIN THIS IS WHAT IS IN STORE FOR CANADA WHERE THIS WEBSITE IS HOSTED..............

The only thing i could say is you can never say that people did not try to say &quot; i told you so ......&quot; 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember a while back reading a post on the afterdawn website   on how they did not give give a hoot and a holler and &#8221; did not give a damn &#8220;about people in the united states hollywood and the dmca. </p>
<p>I hate playing the devils&#8217;s advocate in saying it only would have been a matter of time the country of finland would have moved closer to the united states and great britain in thought and position about piracy ang copyright issues and resulting draconian changes in the finnish copyright law.</p>
<p>FAIR USE RIGHTS IS JUST A MYTH.</p>
<p>EVENTUALLY THIS HAPPEN IN CANADA LUMP IT OR LEAVE IT&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>If one isn&#8217;t careful arrogance and ignorance can be bliss and one could easily get fooled. </p>
<p>There was a lot of misquided young people who thought that unlimited fair use rights would never end in finland and finland will have to join in the united states&#8217; miserable concepts about copyright and patent law where it is ILLEGAL to copy a prerecorded dvd.</p>
<p> AGAIN THIS IS WHAT IS IN STORE FOR CANADA WHERE THIS WEBSITE IS HOSTED&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>The only thing i could say is you can never say that people did not try to say &#8221; i told you so &#8230;&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7420/comment-page-1#comment-27798</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2005 09:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember a while back reading a post on the afterdawn website   on how they did not give give a hoot and a holler and &quot; did not give a damn &quot;about people in the united states hollywood and the dmca. 

I hate playing the devils&#039;s advocate in saying it only would have been a matter of time the country of finland would have moved closer to the united states and great britain in thought and position about piracy ang copyright issues and resulting draconian changes in the finnish copyright law.

FAIR USE RIGHTS IS JUST A MYTH.

EVENTUALLY THIS HAPPEN IN CANADA LUMP IT OR LEAVE IT.................

If one isn&#039;t careful arrogance and ignorance can be bliss and one could easily get fooled. 

There was a lot of misquided young people who thought that unlimited fair use rights would never end in finland and finland will have to join in the united states&#039; miserable concepts about copyright and patent law where it is ILLEGAL to copy a prerecorded dvd.

 AGAIN THIS IS WHAT IS IN STORE FOR CANADA WHERE THIS WEBSITE IS HOSTED..............

The only thing i could say is you can never say that people did not try to say &quot; i told you so ......&quot; 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember a while back reading a post on the afterdawn website   on how they did not give give a hoot and a holler and &#8221; did not give a damn &#8220;about people in the united states hollywood and the dmca. </p>
<p>I hate playing the devils&#8217;s advocate in saying it only would have been a matter of time the country of finland would have moved closer to the united states and great britain in thought and position about piracy ang copyright issues and resulting draconian changes in the finnish copyright law.</p>
<p>FAIR USE RIGHTS IS JUST A MYTH.</p>
<p>EVENTUALLY THIS HAPPEN IN CANADA LUMP IT OR LEAVE IT&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>If one isn&#8217;t careful arrogance and ignorance can be bliss and one could easily get fooled. </p>
<p>There was a lot of misquided young people who thought that unlimited fair use rights would never end in finland and finland will have to join in the united states&#8217; miserable concepts about copyright and patent law where it is ILLEGAL to copy a prerecorded dvd.</p>
<p> AGAIN THIS IS WHAT IS IN STORE FOR CANADA WHERE THIS WEBSITE IS HOSTED&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>The only thing i could say is you can never say that people did not try to say &#8221; i told you so &#8230;&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7420/comment-page-1#comment-27241</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like Finnish politicians are completely out of touch with a number of things. One is obviously the people and how they might feel about this, considering how much has been legal up until now. The other is obviously the current state of technology (are they even aware of the internet perchance?). It also would seem that none of them have been keeping tabs on all the latest developments regarding the entertainment companies and their shady practices that keep coming to light time and again. How such a slipshod piece of legislation could become law is beyond me. Did they even know what it was they were passing? To pass a law so far reaching and broad with no limitations was completely and utterly reckless. I hope news like this isn&#039;t the norm for most governments, but alas I fear that it may indeed be so.

Canada has yet to adopt more stringent laws regarding copying similar to what we&#039;ve seen with the likes of the DMCA in the USA. I can only hope that when the time comes, they don&#039;t give into the FUD that the corporate lobbyists are always dishing out and create laws that are carefully thought out from every possible angle, with the publics interest coming first and foremost. I know that won&#039;t happen if the Liberals stay in power, so voting for them is out of the question. The Bloc is also out of the question for obvious reasons. Still trying to figure out whom to vote for. So far Steven Harper and his Accountability Act seem like the best bet, although I never thought I would see myself voting Conservative. If what he plans regarding lobbying comes to pass, then there may yet be hope for us Canadians. By the way, I&#039;ve never really cared for politics, nor do I usually bother to vote. It never seems to matter. I certainly will this time though, and I hope all the others out there just like me do too since it&#039;s so gravely important this time around. We need all the people who don&#039;t normally vote to come out and do their part for once, as I think this is what may be what is needed to tip the scales. Ah screw it, whats the point. Were all going to hell in a hand basket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like Finnish politicians are completely out of touch with a number of things. One is obviously the people and how they might feel about this, considering how much has been legal up until now. The other is obviously the current state of technology (are they even aware of the internet perchance?). It also would seem that none of them have been keeping tabs on all the latest developments regarding the entertainment companies and their shady practices that keep coming to light time and again. How such a slipshod piece of legislation could become law is beyond me. Did they even know what it was they were passing? To pass a law so far reaching and broad with no limitations was completely and utterly reckless. I hope news like this isn&#8217;t the norm for most governments, but alas I fear that it may indeed be so.</p>
<p>Canada has yet to adopt more stringent laws regarding copying similar to what we&#8217;ve seen with the likes of the DMCA in the USA. I can only hope that when the time comes, they don&#8217;t give into the FUD that the corporate lobbyists are always dishing out and create laws that are carefully thought out from every possible angle, with the publics interest coming first and foremost. I know that won&#8217;t happen if the Liberals stay in power, so voting for them is out of the question. The Bloc is also out of the question for obvious reasons. Still trying to figure out whom to vote for. So far Steven Harper and his Accountability Act seem like the best bet, although I never thought I would see myself voting Conservative. If what he plans regarding lobbying comes to pass, then there may yet be hope for us Canadians. By the way, I&#8217;ve never really cared for politics, nor do I usually bother to vote. It never seems to matter. I certainly will this time though, and I hope all the others out there just like me do too since it&#8217;s so gravely important this time around. We need all the people who don&#8217;t normally vote to come out and do their part for once, as I think this is what may be what is needed to tip the scales. Ah screw it, whats the point. Were all going to hell in a hand basket.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7420/comment-page-1#comment-27235</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are torrents of the whole set of forbidden stuff, including guides and software.  See this thread: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/1/276433</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are torrents of the whole set of forbidden stuff, including guides and software.  See this thread: <a href="http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/1/276433" rel="nofollow">http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/1/276433</a></p>
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