Now the courts ARE USED to mistreat children by exposing them to lifetime psychological damage for causing their parents extreme damages.

The courts are guilty along with RIAA of sadism.

WANT TO SEE A KID SAD?

THE SADDIST SAYS THE KID DID BAD.

A DOZEN OR SO DOWNLOADED, THE SADDIST SAYS.

BUT NO MATTER WHAT, MOM IS THE ONE TO PAY,

THEN SUE HER, FOR EACH, 150 GRAND GET.

IF DONE FOR FUN, GO GET MOM ANYWAY.

IF FOR LOVE OF MUSIC, MOM IS TO PAY.

IF NOTHING WAS DONE, LET US ALL PRAY.

FOR LOVE OF MUSIC, THE KID DID BAD.

FOR LOVE OF MOM, THE KID IS SAD.

NO MATTER WHAT, MUSIC BRINGS PAIN.

They *were*, however, successful against the British government, which they accused of violating their rights by not providing publically-funded counsel. They won a judgement of 20,000 pounds against the *British government* and are considered to be a driving force behind changes in Britain’s libel laws, so they are considered to be successful in that regard.

But not against McDonald’s – they lost that one.

“HTTrack allows you to download a WWW site from the Internet to a local directory, building recursively all directories, getting HTML, images, and other files from the server to your computer.”

I frequently use HTTrack, to download entire copyrighted web pages to my hard disk. When i like the web site, I leave it in my computer. On several ocasions I have given a copy of the web site to a friend. Sometimes the web sites have music. Is this type of downloading legal?

Im I a sitting duck for a RIAA type infringement lawsuit?

Is my mother responsible?

Can I sue HTTrack programmers for inducement?

Are the mothers of the programmers of HTTrack responsible?

How many years of jail can I get?

Will my mother go with me?

First nothing was done by Santangelo helself. Then the acusation if that a computer was used as it was designed for, files copying, sharing downloading. It used to be that computers were mostly for data processing. Home computers are for another purpose, entertainment and information gathering.

Maybe Santangelo is being acused of being naive and not sending her kids to the seminar: How to legally use the SAVE option of computer programs. Her problem being that no one is giving the seminar, yet.

But a congress protected (biiiiiiiiiig lobby money here) RIAA wants to turn entertainment and information gathering into a time bomb that can explode when least expected, such as when saving (same as copying) something, anything into a hard disk without doing a required but impossible copyright status research.

This while RIAA itself is a time bomb for artists and songwriters. As I have said before right here on P2PNet, the labels, as exemplified by Sony on my case, steal songwriters by using their songs without authorization and without paying royalties. See the lawsuit from my family to Sony for producing many recordings (18+) with our songs that sold many millions of records and never had any authorization from my family.

Venegas v. Sony Copyright Infringement Lawsuit
http://rafa_venegas.web.prdigital.com/venegas_v_sony_lawsuit.htm

Now that is real infringement!
Now that is big time stealing!

And where is RIAA?
Why has RIAA not investigated the production of records without licenses by their own members so as to clean up the image of their own industry?

I get it! It is easier for RIAA to go after and blackmail kids and parents who have done nothing, other than using a computer system as it was designed for. Maybe that way no one will notice that the music industry, the record companies and the music publishers are the real thief. Accuse before you are accused! Redirection of guilt!

Rafael Venegas
http://www.gvenegas.com

Of course we shouldn’t, but this is a civil trial which is an entirely different ballgame then a criminal trial. The same people who are found not-guilty of murder in a criminal court are routinely found liable for the victims death in a civil trial. Even if she did have a jury trial the jury would not even be required to come to a unanimous verdict to find her liable. I hate to say this, but I really cannot see her winning considering she is acting as her own counsel with no legal experience, she is in civil court, and the simple fact that the record companies have a lot more money then she does.

Oh and shill, considering that sales are down 10% this year while the economy has been improving is enough to start getting at least a bit nervous.

So if anything that proves the point that the RIAA are just greedy fools and as the other person who replied to you said if parents are responsible for everything their children do then why is there anyone under the age of 18 in prison (or the under 18 equivilent)?

The fact is for anyone who downloaded music to commit the crime of theft they need to show dishonesty – that is a legal requirement- when downloading the music – and seeing as they didn’t think they were doing anything wrong they lack that – thus, the RIAA’s only course is to sue and like I said no way will a jury feel the punishment fits the act which causes that person to be in court – and thats the be all and end all – the RIAA will lose in court and they will then be in real trouble! – and lets not forget if they did lose then they could be facing lawsuits from the people they sued for millions of dollars!

So if I was the RIAA I would drop it now…

The industry is steadily making enemies with just the same sort of actions as those against Patti. Her’s isn’t the only story told either. You can bet every one of those on the sue list isn’t buying. Better they’re telling their friends the same thing.

Now the lamescream isn’t putting up much screaming about what the cartels are doing. You find that at sites like this. There are daily more and more of those too. So many in fact that the cartels are starting to hire shills to do much the same sort of reactions as the one above is doing. If it wasn’t being effective on the net, they would not be out in force patrolling the net to heckle people.

You’ll get little symapthy for me for the heckling. Truely I hope you do work for the industry. Go tell your masters they need you; we don’t.

GO PATTI, we’ve got your back !!!