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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7600/comment-page-1#comment-30932</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This method of lock down eliminates the possibility that I could sell something I hated to someone else that might love it. &quot;

next to fair use this explains the content cartels 2nd pet peeve with current media platforms (cd, tapes, general physical media).

now that they have eliminated the ability to transfer content by means of DRM files, they are of course assuming they will make more money....and when it doesn&#039;t happen.... it&#039;s gonna be the consumers fault again.  
I mean obviously if the content consumer will purchase a 2nd hand cd for 1/2 he price they will buy the DRM infected low quality files for full price, cause the content media obviously knows their customers. (Well at least Sony/BMG doeas as they&#039;re spying on them.) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This method of lock down eliminates the possibility that I could sell something I hated to someone else that might love it. &#8221;</p>
<p>next to fair use this explains the content cartels 2nd pet peeve with current media platforms (cd, tapes, general physical media).</p>
<p>now that they have eliminated the ability to transfer content by means of DRM files, they are of course assuming they will make more money&#8230;.and when it doesn&#8217;t happen&#8230;. it&#8217;s gonna be the consumers fault again.<br />
I mean obviously if the content consumer will purchase a 2nd hand cd for 1/2 he price they will buy the DRM infected low quality files for full price, cause the content media obviously knows their customers. (Well at least Sony/BMG doeas as they&#8217;re spying on them.)</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7600/comment-page-1#comment-30755</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very lucid TurboGeek
Thanks for the legal insight.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very lucid TurboGeek<br />
Thanks for the legal insight.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7600/comment-page-1#comment-30746</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>riaa bunch of whores say whaattt??


how about i open up my linux and remove your drm files say whattT??

how about i record the playing files into unprotected mp3s say whatt!!!

how about you learn how to treat a consumer right say what?

let me see a homeless artists....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>riaa bunch of whores say whaattt??</p>
<p>how about i open up my linux and remove your drm files say whattT??</p>
<p>how about i record the playing files into unprotected mp3s say whatt!!!</p>
<p>how about you learn how to treat a consumer right say what?</p>
<p>let me see a homeless artists&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7600/comment-page-1#comment-30508</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This snake oil has nothing in it I want. Any products laced with it, devalue the item. It would in my mind be better that the DRM be used for permante locks so that no one can access protected content. That would end the constant drumbeat by the content cartels of pirates. I don&#039;t want this sort of stuff. I can&#039;t use the protected content as it is configured and work it into my lifestyle. Making foolish moves such as locking a song or vid to a particular player does nothing for portability to any currently owned devices already within my possession. I will not buy new equipment to play new material. To many times in the past I have been hooked by picking the wrong format as the winner and buying equipment that supported those formats only to find there wasn&#039;t enough time to delevop a library before the industry moved on to something esle and both equipment and format disappeared. 

Adding virtual or digital players isn&#039;t the answer, that doesn&#039;t plug into my current equipment. So as long as these hindered formats exist, you keep them, I don&#039;t want them nor will I pay for the priviliage of being prevented from using my purchase as I see fit. As a last mention of problems, the industry as a whole doesn&#039;t think you should be able to recoup your costs on either a bad decision or pick. This method of lock down eliminates the possibility that I could sell something I hated to someone else that might love it. The end results are you are stuck with the crap. I&#039;d rather spend my money elsewhere than get into the above problems. At least I have a choice at that point what I can do with it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This snake oil has nothing in it I want. Any products laced with it, devalue the item. It would in my mind be better that the DRM be used for permante locks so that no one can access protected content. That would end the constant drumbeat by the content cartels of pirates. I don&#8217;t want this sort of stuff. I can&#8217;t use the protected content as it is configured and work it into my lifestyle. Making foolish moves such as locking a song or vid to a particular player does nothing for portability to any currently owned devices already within my possession. I will not buy new equipment to play new material. To many times in the past I have been hooked by picking the wrong format as the winner and buying equipment that supported those formats only to find there wasn&#8217;t enough time to delevop a library before the industry moved on to something esle and both equipment and format disappeared. </p>
<p>Adding virtual or digital players isn&#8217;t the answer, that doesn&#8217;t plug into my current equipment. So as long as these hindered formats exist, you keep them, I don&#8217;t want them nor will I pay for the priviliage of being prevented from using my purchase as I see fit. As a last mention of problems, the industry as a whole doesn&#8217;t think you should be able to recoup your costs on either a bad decision or pick. This method of lock down eliminates the possibility that I could sell something I hated to someone else that might love it. The end results are you are stuck with the crap. I&#8217;d rather spend my money elsewhere than get into the above problems. At least I have a choice at that point what I can do with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7600/comment-page-1#comment-30496</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel so much better knowing that the new MediaMax was &quot;designed from the ground up using Microsoftâs latest development tools with a constant awareness of potential security vulnerabilities.&quot;   When I think computer security, I think Microsoft!! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel so much better knowing that the new MediaMax was &#8220;designed from the ground up using Microsoftâs latest development tools with a constant awareness of potential security vulnerabilities.&#8221;   When I think computer security, I think Microsoft!! <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7600/comment-page-1#comment-30392</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it makes sense to me.  Where are the lack of facts? She has posted the sources. Why don&#039;t you back up your claim that it is not factual by refuting what Astrid wrote WITH FACTs. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it makes sense to me.  Where are the lack of facts? She has posted the sources. Why don&#8217;t you back up your claim that it is not factual by refuting what Astrid wrote WITH FACTs.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7600/comment-page-1#comment-30285</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 04:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the corporate counsel for SunnComm and other would-be DRM companies should go back and read the DCMA and relevant advisories from the US Government Copyright Offices BEFORE they fire off nasty letters to people telling them they have violated the law?

Under the DCMA, circumvention of COPY controls is NOT illegal, whereas circumvention of access controls is illegal.  With a CDDA format Audio CD, &#039;access&#039; is inherently implied by mere possession of an original CD.  Under the &quot;rights of first sale&quot; doctrine, the copyright holder benefits from the initial sale of the work.  After that the purchaser is free to do what they wish with the item.  If you buy a book, read it and love it, or read the first chapter, hate it and then give it to a friend, you have done absolutely nothing wrong.  The same goes for an original Audio CD.  There is simply no such thing as an &#039;access&#039; control for an original Audio CD.  As stated by the U. S. copyright office, the reason that circumvention of copy control is not illegal is so that individuals can exercise their full fair use rights which may be impeded by such controls.

The DCMA does not trump the first amendment.  Informing one or more people as to &#039;how&#039; to circumvent any kind of control (particularly if it does not involve some kind of &#039;device&#039;) is an exercise of free speech.  This type of speech comes nowhere near yelling &#039;Fire!&quot; in a darkened crowded theatre, or inciting a riot.  Providing written or verbal instruction to an unspecified audience in a &#039;published work&#039; as to how to break the law is not illegal, otherwise the Anarchists Cookbook would not be available for sale.

Counsel should also remind their client that the anti-abuse provisions of the DCMA provides for penalties in the form of attorney&#039;s fee should the client deliberately invoke the DCMA inappropriately in any legal action or threat of legal action.  The most well publicized instance of this provision was the Diebold case of approximately 18 months ago.  These type of incidents generally result in a PR debacle, the cost of which outstrips any actual financial penalty many times over.

--TurboGeek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the corporate counsel for SunnComm and other would-be DRM companies should go back and read the DCMA and relevant advisories from the US Government Copyright Offices BEFORE they fire off nasty letters to people telling them they have violated the law?</p>
<p>Under the DCMA, circumvention of COPY controls is NOT illegal, whereas circumvention of access controls is illegal.  With a CDDA format Audio CD, &#8216;access&#8217; is inherently implied by mere possession of an original CD.  Under the &#8220;rights of first sale&#8221; doctrine, the copyright holder benefits from the initial sale of the work.  After that the purchaser is free to do what they wish with the item.  If you buy a book, read it and love it, or read the first chapter, hate it and then give it to a friend, you have done absolutely nothing wrong.  The same goes for an original Audio CD.  There is simply no such thing as an &#8216;access&#8217; control for an original Audio CD.  As stated by the U. S. copyright office, the reason that circumvention of copy control is not illegal is so that individuals can exercise their full fair use rights which may be impeded by such controls.</p>
<p>The DCMA does not trump the first amendment.  Informing one or more people as to &#8216;how&#8217; to circumvent any kind of control (particularly if it does not involve some kind of &#8216;device&#8217;) is an exercise of free speech.  This type of speech comes nowhere near yelling &#8216;Fire!&#8221; in a darkened crowded theatre, or inciting a riot.  Providing written or verbal instruction to an unspecified audience in a &#8216;published work&#8217; as to how to break the law is not illegal, otherwise the Anarchists Cookbook would not be available for sale.</p>
<p>Counsel should also remind their client that the anti-abuse provisions of the DCMA provides for penalties in the form of attorney&#8217;s fee should the client deliberately invoke the DCMA inappropriately in any legal action or threat of legal action.  The most well publicized instance of this provision was the Diebold case of approximately 18 months ago.  These type of incidents generally result in a PR debacle, the cost of which outstrips any actual financial penalty many times over.</p>
<p>&#8211;TurboGeek</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7600/comment-page-1#comment-30283</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 03:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your prize is a date with pete hehehehe</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7600/comment-page-1#comment-30280</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 03:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ohhhhhh!!!!!  
I found the Mediamax troll!!!! Do I get a prize?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ohhhhhh!!!!!<br />
I found the Mediamax troll!!!! Do I get a prize?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7600/comment-page-1#comment-30276</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 01:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes sense to me.</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7600/comment-page-1#comment-30273</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 01:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Astrid,

If you had a clue about technology or  a mind that allowed you to funtion independently of your   &quot;in the sauce sources&quot;  you might actually come up with a factual article. 

Not much hope for you though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Astrid,</p>
<p>If you had a clue about technology or  a mind that allowed you to funtion independently of your   &#8220;in the sauce sources&#8221;  you might actually come up with a factual article. </p>
<p>Not much hope for you though!</p>
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