Granted the results is filters in Fance and Gemany are for Neo Nazi websites and in the US Terrorist ,Child Porn sites are filtered but Google have a track record of filtering at a govornment request.

What is censorship one place, it is not cesorship elsewhere.

With the Goggle-China cesorship issue some questions must be answered first:

1. Is Google a person with morals or is it a moraless nationless corporation whose only or primary purpose is to make money for the owners, akin to an armaments manufacturers? The answer is yes. As we should know all armament manufacturer’s arms are commonly used to supress the people or to kill the neighbors. And the armaments are sold with the approval (sometimes with the urging) of the government and the shareholders.

2. Then there is the argument: If we don’t do it, someoneelse will. This arguments fits nicely with the purpose of the coporations, make money. Is the argument right? That the depends on who has to answer and what his/her morals and monetary interests are.

3. Then there is the issue of the tradition in censorship. Censorship is everywhere and at all time. Governments, churches, schools, political parties, newspapers, radio stations are highly secretive and censured from theoutside and from within. It is in the nature of humans to be secretive and secreteness leads directly to censure, as the purpose of sensure is to keep ideas and facts hidden (same as secret).

4. Does the government of China do right in censoring information? And with the participation of foreign corporations? Maybe we are better off replacing the name of China with the name of your country.
Everything in my country (Puerto Rico) is heavily censored. For example, newspapers and the advertisement agencies are so dependent on government advertisement money that goverment and judicial corruption is hardly covered and when is covered it is in a very summary manner. Briefly, newspapers persons fear the government. Some say Puerto Rico is an American territory (whatever that means, I certainly do not know) and treat the American constitution as valid here. We are heavily censored by the American constitution/government and even our own government. Freedom of speech is hardly existent

Sure, I did not clarify the murky waters of what is censorship. My only purpose id to try to explain that censorship is everywhere and maybe we do not see it. It will never go away as long as money is the primary goal of the people.

Rafael Venegas
http://www.gvenegas.com

The problem is that the standard of “harmful to minors” is so vague as to subject nearly any content to prosecution based upon extremely subjective (and likely unreasonable, given this administration) interpretation of what constitutes harmful to minors.

Furthermore, the administration is demanding the data through subpoena despite this issue being an administrative (not enforcement) in nature. There is an injunction against enforcement of most of the provisions of COPA pending final adjudication by SCOTUS.

The subpoena essentially allows the Government to acquire this data for almost no expense, when they should be compensating the subpoena recipients on a market rate basis. They can’t subpoena AP or Reuters to get news feeds. They can’t subpoena the cable company to get free cable at DOJ facilities. They have to contract for and pay for these information services like any other person or organization.

Should they not get what they want, I wouldn’t be surpised to see the ‘terrorist’ card played. It’s become the magic word to allow the administration to do whatever they wish despite minor inconveniences like the Constitution.

Google’s choice to sensor China is a good thing! And most everyone anywhere else would agree with that… Except you morons on this site… -_-

Please stop making google seem like bad guys… This is the only option they have… at least with Google still accessable in China, there is a chance stuff can still get through…

I hope p2pnet feels ashamed for being so bais against Google…