Comments on: New DRM file scare apps http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7860 p2pnet.net - reader powered Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:11:09 -0300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7860/comment-page-1#comment-33944 Reader's Write Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:16:17 +0000 #comment-33944 So many inconsistancies in this story. - If it's applied to CDs, the mere act of ripping to Mp3 will destroy the watermark - If it's applied to MP3s "for download from legal sites", note that iTMS doesn't use MP3. Most of the rest of them use WMA. Which leaves the sites like eMusic and Bleep who don't deal with the majors anyway. then there's AllOfMp3. Will they really convince AllOfMp3 to apply the watermark during their encoding? - So they're going to download MP3s from P2P and scan them for the watermark? How much bandwidth do they have? Or is is this all after the RIAA fingers someone when they only need to find one file? Watermarking, like DRM can't work. Give somebody the encrypted text and the keys and they'll have a plain copy that you can't control. This is really just another atempt to control market share and lock in customers. Nothing to do with piracy. Move along, nothing to see here. So many inconsistancies in this story.
- If it’s applied to CDs, the mere act of ripping to Mp3 will destroy the watermark
- If it’s applied to MP3s “for download from legal sites”, note that iTMS doesn’t use MP3. Most of the rest of them use WMA. Which leaves the sites like eMusic and Bleep who don’t deal with the majors anyway. then there’s AllOfMp3. Will they really convince AllOfMp3 to apply the watermark during their encoding?
- So they’re going to download MP3s from P2P and scan them for the watermark? How much bandwidth do they have? Or is is this all after the RIAA fingers someone when they only need to find one file?

Watermarking, like DRM can’t work. Give somebody the encrypted text and the keys and they’ll have a plain copy that you can’t control. This is really just another atempt to control market share and lock in customers. Nothing to do with piracy. Move along, nothing to see here.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7860/comment-page-1#comment-33864 Reader's Write Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:40:25 +0000 #comment-33864 "The system would, for instance, display a warning to a participant, if the file requested happened to be an illegal copy. " This is what made me laugh, display a warning? err, HOW? There is such a thing as a firewall that prevents messages being sent to ip's The filesharing software could display this message, IF anyone made a filesharing program that supports this. There is no way to display a warning on another users computer, the programs in this article are vaporware. What a scam “The system would, for instance, display a warning to a participant, if the file requested happened to be an illegal copy. ”

This is what made me laugh, display a warning? err, HOW?

There is such a thing as a firewall that prevents messages being sent to ip’s

The filesharing software could display this message, IF anyone made a filesharing program that supports this.

There is no way to display a warning on another users computer, the programs in this article are vaporware.

What a scam

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7860/comment-page-1#comment-33806 Reader's Write Thu, 09 Feb 2006 03:19:40 +0000 #comment-33806 I think the reference to players not supporting ogg was to portable players...and it may be becouse the *iaa's don't want them to. I think the reference to players not supporting ogg was to portable players…and it may be becouse the *iaa’s don’t want them to.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7860/comment-page-1#comment-33805 Reader's Write Thu, 09 Feb 2006 03:11:14 +0000 #comment-33805 "watermark technology" If a watermark can be detected by software, it can be removed by another software. This is going nowhere. "A software program enters a file-sharing network as a user, downloads potentially illegal copies and scans the P2P network for watermarks," There is a little problem with this. If the downloaded song belongs to X and X did not authorized the downloading, X can sue Fraunhofer or whoever for copyright infringement. "and would also prevent multiple downloads of the same file" Does anyone know of a reason that someone would want to download a file multiple times? "This would allow the files exchanged on the Internet to be correlated with a list of current music charts." What language is this? English? "The tool is designed as a means of discouragement to scare users" Wouln't the use of Dracula be more effective for the purpose? Seems like a hoax to advance the idea that a watermark based filtering solution will be introduced. Of course, such a filtering solution is impossible. Rafael Venegas http://www.gvenegas.com “watermark technology”

If a watermark can be detected by software, it can be removed by another software. This is going nowhere.

“A software program enters a file-sharing network as a user, downloads potentially illegal copies and scans the P2P network for watermarks,”

There is a little problem with this. If the downloaded song belongs to X and X did not authorized the downloading, X can sue Fraunhofer or whoever for copyright infringement.

“and would also prevent multiple downloads of the same file”

Does anyone know of a reason that someone would want to download a file multiple times?

“This would allow the files exchanged on the Internet to be correlated with a list of current music charts.”

What language is this? English?

“The tool is designed as a means of discouragement to scare users”

Wouln’t the use of Dracula be more effective for the purpose?

Seems like a hoax to advance the idea that a watermark based filtering solution will be introduced. Of course, such a filtering solution is impossible.

Rafael Venegas
http://www.gvenegas.com

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7860/comment-page-1#comment-33804 Reader's Write Thu, 09 Feb 2006 02:55:12 +0000 #comment-33804 MPC and even windows media player support ogg... MPC and even windows media player support ogg…

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7860/comment-page-1#comment-33797 Reader's Write Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:00:49 +0000 #comment-33797 doesn't Fraunhofer own the mp3 patent? I think so. Of course MP3 wouldn't be as popular if it weren't for file sharing. It's the killer app of MP3. doesn’t Fraunhofer own the mp3 patent?

I think so. Of course MP3 wouldn’t be as popular if it weren’t for file sharing. It’s the killer app of MP3.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7860/comment-page-1#comment-33787 Reader's Write Wed, 08 Feb 2006 22:23:32 +0000 #comment-33787 doesn't Fraunhofer own the mp3 patent? Seems like one more reason to move to ogg to me...of course the players don't seem to want to support it. doesn’t Fraunhofer own the mp3 patent?
Seems like one more reason to move to ogg to me…of course the players don’t seem to want to support it.

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