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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Don&#8217;t steal Mac OS&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7959/comment-page-1#comment-34607</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 22:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your opinions regarding software, but this part is not correct IMHO.

&quot;Software is the only product it seems that can get away with being outside of common law and consumer law.&quot; 

(unless you are referring to music and video as &quot;software&quot; which would be technically correct)

DVDs, DRM &quot;protected&quot; music downloads, and copy protected CDs all run afoul of this same &quot;outside of common law and consumer law&quot; concept you mention. You are purchasing &quot;permission&quot; to see/hear the content ONLY in ways permitted by the EULA. ALL other uses are strictly proscribed criminal acts. This big pile of steaming evil brought to you by the DMCA.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your opinions regarding software, but this part is not correct IMHO.</p>
<p>&#8220;Software is the only product it seems that can get away with being outside of common law and consumer law.&#8221; </p>
<p>(unless you are referring to music and video as &#8220;software&#8221; which would be technically correct)</p>
<p>DVDs, DRM &#8220;protected&#8221; music downloads, and copy protected CDs all run afoul of this same &#8220;outside of common law and consumer law&#8221; concept you mention. You are purchasing &#8220;permission&#8221; to see/hear the content ONLY in ways permitted by the EULA. ALL other uses are strictly proscribed criminal acts. This big pile of steaming evil brought to you by the DMCA.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7959/comment-page-1#comment-34588</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct, you dont own the Software, just a licence to use it, which you agree to by opening the packet and/or installing said software, even if you haven&#039;t yet read the agreement which is inside the packet you have to open to get at the disks! So, you agree to terms you have not yet read, to a product that in its terms, has no warranty as to usage and suitablity for which is was designed and futher more, you agree that the product may not accually do what is says it can and/or will do as said on the packaging. In ecsence, they can put nothing but garbage on a disk and it is legal for them to do so because you agree to that when you open the packaging and you agree without having yet read the agreement. Read most end user licencing and see what I mean! Software is the only product it seems that can get away with being outside of common law and consumer law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct, you dont own the Software, just a licence to use it, which you agree to by opening the packet and/or installing said software, even if you haven&#8217;t yet read the agreement which is inside the packet you have to open to get at the disks! So, you agree to terms you have not yet read, to a product that in its terms, has no warranty as to usage and suitablity for which is was designed and futher more, you agree that the product may not accually do what is says it can and/or will do as said on the packaging. In ecsence, they can put nothing but garbage on a disk and it is legal for them to do so because you agree to that when you open the packaging and you agree without having yet read the agreement. Read most end user licencing and see what I mean! Software is the only product it seems that can get away with being outside of common law and consumer law.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7959/comment-page-1#comment-34587</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Acually, Steve Jobs did visit the Xerox Labs and saw the working &#039;mouse&#039; and visual users interface, well before he came up with the Mac O/S interface. It is a fact, included in Mac history as well as Xerox&#039;s visitors book! Dont forget, Apple used to be a command line driven interface, till the days of Macs, post Xerox Visist!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Acually, Steve Jobs did visit the Xerox Labs and saw the working &#8216;mouse&#8217; and visual users interface, well before he came up with the Mac O/S interface. It is a fact, included in Mac history as well as Xerox&#8217;s visitors book! Dont forget, Apple used to be a command line driven interface, till the days of Macs, post Xerox Visist!!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7959/comment-page-1#comment-34577</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 10:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Apple stole the gui from Xerox Parc&quot;

Hey jerk go read some computer history, you don&#039;t know what you are talking about, just repeating some myth you heard somewhere... You are the brainwashed sheep here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Apple stole the gui from Xerox Parc&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey jerk go read some computer history, you don&#8217;t know what you are talking about, just repeating some myth you heard somewhere&#8230; You are the brainwashed sheep here.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7959/comment-page-1#comment-34572</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 06:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought when you buy most softwares, you&#039;re just paying for the license to use it.  You don&#039;t really own it.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought when you buy most softwares, you&#8217;re just paying for the license to use it.  You don&#8217;t really own it.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7959/comment-page-1#comment-34571</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 05:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple stole the gui from Xerox Parc so you&#039;d be buying stolen merchandise if you paid for their crapple hardware.

apple is playing the commonize cost / privatize profit game.  just like disney when they remake aesop fables and claim them as original works.

Just don&#039;t obey illegal laws.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple stole the gui from Xerox Parc so you&#8217;d be buying stolen merchandise if you paid for their crapple hardware.</p>
<p>apple is playing the commonize cost / privatize profit game.  just like disney when they remake aesop fables and claim them as original works.</p>
<p>Just don&#8217;t obey illegal laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7959/comment-page-1#comment-34557</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>microsoft doesn&#039;t believe you bought the product, just the right to do with it what they tell you to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>microsoft doesn&#8217;t believe you bought the product, just the right to do with it what they tell you to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7959/comment-page-1#comment-34550</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 17:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who buys anything should not be bound by the selle&#039;s prohibition. Imagine if a seller of a car in one country prohibiting it&#039;s resale in another country.

Once a seller parts with a product, the seller has no right over the product.

Anyone buying a Mac computer that is no longer usable (or lost or stolen) should be able to use the working monitor on an Dell computer if the monotor is compatible or is adaptable. The same logic should apply to the operating system. Neither Apple nor Dell can object to a buyer using a purchased product as he/she sees fit.

I read somewhere that Microsoft is claiming that a copy of their OS, Windows, cannot be used on a new motherboard. It is absurd to say that if your computer breaks down you cannot get a new computer and use the old OS software you paid for. Apparently MS also does not understand that once you sell a product, the buyer can do with the product whatever is allowed by law.

Rafael Venegas
http://www.gvenegas.com



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who buys anything should not be bound by the selle&#8217;s prohibition. Imagine if a seller of a car in one country prohibiting it&#8217;s resale in another country.</p>
<p>Once a seller parts with a product, the seller has no right over the product.</p>
<p>Anyone buying a Mac computer that is no longer usable (or lost or stolen) should be able to use the working monitor on an Dell computer if the monotor is compatible or is adaptable. The same logic should apply to the operating system. Neither Apple nor Dell can object to a buyer using a purchased product as he/she sees fit.</p>
<p>I read somewhere that Microsoft is claiming that a copy of their OS, Windows, cannot be used on a new motherboard. It is absurd to say that if your computer breaks down you cannot get a new computer and use the old OS software you paid for. Apparently MS also does not understand that once you sell a product, the buyer can do with the product whatever is allowed by law.</p>
<p>Rafael Venegas<br />
<a href="http://www.gvenegas.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.gvenegas.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7959/comment-page-1#comment-34549</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe having more people using the stuff you made is the only reward that really counts? Seriously, I would never buy an Apple PC, but I would certainly consider running OSX as a dual boot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe having more people using the stuff you made is the only reward that really counts? Seriously, I would never buy an Apple PC, but I would certainly consider running OSX as a dual boot.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7959/comment-page-1#comment-34542</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stealing Mac OS X is definately not the right thing to do though. If you want to use Mac OS X, then buy an Apple computer. Apple should be rewarded for their work; not stolen from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stealing Mac OS X is definately not the right thing to do though. If you want to use Mac OS X, then buy an Apple computer. Apple should be rewarded for their work; not stolen from.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7959/comment-page-1#comment-34541</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 09:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh, I got OS X working great :D

DMCA is a law I don&#039;t agree with so screw that. Be like Thoreau and do what you believe is right, not what the law says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh, I got OS X working great <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>DMCA is a law I don&#8217;t agree with so screw that. Be like Thoreau and do what you believe is right, not what the law says.</p>
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