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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8243/comment-page-1#comment-36285</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LMFAO Martin Luther King couldn&#039;t of said any better :)</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8243/comment-page-1#comment-36284</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...for doing everything first.

Now we all know how to avoid fucking up our own countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;for doing everything first.</p>
<p>Now we all know how to avoid fucking up our own countries.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8243/comment-page-1#comment-36267</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 09:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you could make a copy of the food in that fridge, why would anyone care as they still have their original food to eat.</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8243/comment-page-1#comment-36261</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 04:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention funny as hell. Seriously though, I don&#039;t see the big deal with the original analogy, which actually doesn&#039;t really make a good argument. See, I visit my parents, I eat and drink stuff from their fridge. Friends come to my place for a visit, they eat and drink the stuff from my fridge. It&#039;s called sharing. They don&#039;t mind and I don&#039;t mind. You can pass a law that says we can no longer do this, and that everyone must buy and &quot;consume&quot; their own food stuffs, but do you really think anybody would follow such a clearly insane law? This applies to anything. I lent my car to my cousin the other day. Oh no, he didn&#039;t go out an buy his own! That means he just robbed the local dealership of money! Not only that, but I let my wife play Half Life 2 using my account. Oh no! She robbed Valve of money that clearly belongs to them! Sheesh, get a life. It&#039;s all about greed, nothing more, nothing less. 

Closer to the news topic, I would say this study is probably pretty much right on target. Personally about four fifths of the music on my PC was ripped from CD&#039;s, albums I&#039;ve been buying since 1985. I would say about one fifth is from P2P, and is made up of stuff I started downloading at about, oh, the same time that I stopped buying CD&#039;s because of the greedy acts of the music industry, like suing paying customers, their key demographic and bread &amp; butter. Wow, when you look at it, the reason I have anything from P2P networks at all was solely because of their own actions. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot! Only a small amount is ripped from albums borrowed from friends and family members, and likewise they&#039;ve borrowed stuff from me from time to time. I don&#039;t buy per download DRM&#039;ed stuff at all from places like iTunes, nor the rental places. I do listen to a lot of internet radio too, which is abundant and completely free. Of course, I&#039;m not in the key demographic, so that probably explains why this come out a little differently from the study. Still, it&#039;s a strong statement that they can try to ignore, which they are attempting to do, but when you you wipe away the FUD they&#039;ve created, you still see that facts are facts, aren&#039;t they. Shows once and for all how dumb the industry was back then a few years ago. But that&#039;s what happens when you panic and react without making sure your game plan is actually sound. Hard to put the bullet back in the chamber once the gun has been fired, especially where pride is involved, and you won&#039;t find anyone more prideful than the rich out there, people whose sole purpose in life is usually to have more even if they don&#039;t need it. Personally, I would call this biting off more than you can chew, and man do they EVER have a giant mouthful of gooey, super sticky toffee now lol!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention funny as hell. Seriously though, I don&#8217;t see the big deal with the original analogy, which actually doesn&#8217;t really make a good argument. See, I visit my parents, I eat and drink stuff from their fridge. Friends come to my place for a visit, they eat and drink the stuff from my fridge. It&#8217;s called sharing. They don&#8217;t mind and I don&#8217;t mind. You can pass a law that says we can no longer do this, and that everyone must buy and &#8220;consume&#8221; their own food stuffs, but do you really think anybody would follow such a clearly insane law? This applies to anything. I lent my car to my cousin the other day. Oh no, he didn&#8217;t go out an buy his own! That means he just robbed the local dealership of money! Not only that, but I let my wife play Half Life 2 using my account. Oh no! She robbed Valve of money that clearly belongs to them! Sheesh, get a life. It&#8217;s all about greed, nothing more, nothing less. </p>
<p>Closer to the news topic, I would say this study is probably pretty much right on target. Personally about four fifths of the music on my PC was ripped from CD&#8217;s, albums I&#8217;ve been buying since 1985. I would say about one fifth is from P2P, and is made up of stuff I started downloading at about, oh, the same time that I stopped buying CD&#8217;s because of the greedy acts of the music industry, like suing paying customers, their key demographic and bread &#038; butter. Wow, when you look at it, the reason I have anything from P2P networks at all was solely because of their own actions. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot! Only a small amount is ripped from albums borrowed from friends and family members, and likewise they&#8217;ve borrowed stuff from me from time to time. I don&#8217;t buy per download DRM&#8217;ed stuff at all from places like iTunes, nor the rental places. I do listen to a lot of internet radio too, which is abundant and completely free. Of course, I&#8217;m not in the key demographic, so that probably explains why this come out a little differently from the study. Still, it&#8217;s a strong statement that they can try to ignore, which they are attempting to do, but when you you wipe away the FUD they&#8217;ve created, you still see that facts are facts, aren&#8217;t they. Shows once and for all how dumb the industry was back then a few years ago. But that&#8217;s what happens when you panic and react without making sure your game plan is actually sound. Hard to put the bullet back in the chamber once the gun has been fired, especially where pride is involved, and you won&#8217;t find anyone more prideful than the rich out there, people whose sole purpose in life is usually to have more even if they don&#8217;t need it. Personally, I would call this biting off more than you can chew, and man do they EVER have a giant mouthful of gooey, super sticky toffee now lol!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8243/comment-page-1#comment-36257</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 01:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading the parent post, that reply certainly was well structured.</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8243/comment-page-1#comment-36256</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 01:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this points to the idea that not only is misrepresentation the theme of the day but that in truth the established cartels are still missing the boat. 

Sueing those that you depend on for long term income is never a good idea. This only brings that out. Those that buy the most are those that are exposed the most to new stuff. Since the payolla scam has been shown to be in full swing, you can pretty well tell that new stuff isn&#039;t so much the thing that the cartels are after as much as it is repeat play to encourage the buy. Hearing the same songs, hour after hour, isn&#039;t what customers are looking for. They&#039;ve for the most part had 30 years in many cases to buy it if they wanted it. 

So where do you go to hear new stuff? Only one place I know of with sureity that I will find that and that is p2p. I&#039;ve been burnt enough with the crap filler to know I am not going to part with money without hearing the full enchilada. Once you have given your money, you don&#039;t get it back. Under that type of deal, I&#039;m no longer willing to just fork it over on the idea that MAYBE I will like it all. 

With the coming of the digital age and now the protections that the cartels want on their products, I can&#039;t just go sell that digital file because I find I got tired of it, or it wasn&#039;t what I thought it would be. Once you have bought it, it&#039;s yours till the next virus or trojan wipes it off the hd. What you can&#039;t do is transfer it, be that to someone else or to another type player to fit your lifestyle. The reasons for buying for ownership have left the building and with it, so has my money for buying those newer items. Sony rootkit has done nothing to inspire me to even consider a change of heart in the purchase. As it stands now, buying music isn&#039;t such a good deal. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this points to the idea that not only is misrepresentation the theme of the day but that in truth the established cartels are still missing the boat. </p>
<p>Sueing those that you depend on for long term income is never a good idea. This only brings that out. Those that buy the most are those that are exposed the most to new stuff. Since the payolla scam has been shown to be in full swing, you can pretty well tell that new stuff isn&#8217;t so much the thing that the cartels are after as much as it is repeat play to encourage the buy. Hearing the same songs, hour after hour, isn&#8217;t what customers are looking for. They&#8217;ve for the most part had 30 years in many cases to buy it if they wanted it. </p>
<p>So where do you go to hear new stuff? Only one place I know of with sureity that I will find that and that is p2p. I&#8217;ve been burnt enough with the crap filler to know I am not going to part with money without hearing the full enchilada. Once you have given your money, you don&#8217;t get it back. Under that type of deal, I&#8217;m no longer willing to just fork it over on the idea that MAYBE I will like it all. </p>
<p>With the coming of the digital age and now the protections that the cartels want on their products, I can&#8217;t just go sell that digital file because I find I got tired of it, or it wasn&#8217;t what I thought it would be. Once you have bought it, it&#8217;s yours till the next virus or trojan wipes it off the hd. What you can&#8217;t do is transfer it, be that to someone else or to another type player to fit your lifestyle. The reasons for buying for ownership have left the building and with it, so has my money for buying those newer items. Sony rootkit has done nothing to inspire me to even consider a change of heart in the purchase. As it stands now, buying music isn&#8217;t such a good deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8243/comment-page-1#comment-36253</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 01:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very good...well structured argument, you must be in law at U of O...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very good&#8230;well structured argument, you must be in law at U of O&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8243/comment-page-1#comment-36252</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 00:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So your solution is to sue children raiding 1/3 the food in the fridge? That solution is not working and IS a historical fact, corpratist pig.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So your solution is to sue children raiding 1/3 the food in the fridge? That solution is not working and IS a historical fact, corpratist pig.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8243/comment-page-1#comment-36251</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 00:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if 1/3 of the groceries in the fridge are stolen, that&#039;s ok?  Tell me, what&#039;s the difference?

Everyone knows that the youngest consumers of music both download and buy. Your a-historical perspective is a sloppy interpretation of the research...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if 1/3 of the groceries in the fridge are stolen, that&#8217;s ok?  Tell me, what&#8217;s the difference?</p>
<p>Everyone knows that the youngest consumers of music both download and buy. Your a-historical perspective is a sloppy interpretation of the research&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8243/comment-page-1#comment-36250</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL I was expecting a spindogle, but that basicly sums up the entire DMCA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL I was expecting a spindogle, but that basicly sums up the entire DMCA.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8243/comment-page-1#comment-36249</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is RIAA&#039;s reaction to CRIA&#039;s findings. http://tinyurl.com/9ejtc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is RIAA&#8217;s reaction to CRIA&#8217;s findings. <a href="http://tinyurl.com/9ejtc" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/9ejtc</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8243/comment-page-1#comment-36248</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering that most of these industry commissioned surveys have an agenda to serve, these results should be used as a strong counter weight against the lobbying of witch hunt legislation. As Canadians we shouldn&#039;t let our rights and liberties be taken hostage by a select group of pigopolists. Our American friends only wish they could turn back the clock, we shouldn&#039;t let them tamper with it in the first place !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering that most of these industry commissioned surveys have an agenda to serve, these results should be used as a strong counter weight against the lobbying of witch hunt legislation. As Canadians we shouldn&#8217;t let our rights and liberties be taken hostage by a select group of pigopolists. Our American friends only wish they could turn back the clock, we shouldn&#8217;t let them tamper with it in the first place !</p>
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