Comments on: London and Tokyo under water?

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Mon, 27 Mar 2006 04:28:55 +0000

Then we’ll know who was right.

This will of course mean that we may be sitting on a floating raft while saying “told you so”, but it’s the only way to end the argument.

Alternatively, we could just play it safe and quit pumping as much stuff into the air as we do currently.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sun, 26 Mar 2006 07:08:51 +0000

According to the article (Newsweek), between 1945 and 1968 the temperature dropped 1/2 of a degree. Now while I will admit the winters of 1969 & 1977 were, shall we say, rather *severe*, when I see Over the past 30 years, temperatures in the Arctic have been creeping up, rising half a degree, I am given to the thought of that, perhaps, nature has corrected itself(?).

As for “common sense”, “global cooling” was seen by many, with a great deal of apparent scientific evidence behind it, as The “truth”, way-back-when (mid-1970s). Are you saying that, if you were reading the signs, back then, you would not be of the firm-belief that our world was headed for some truly major cold-weather events? Of course, using 20/20 forsight (which nobody has, I think you will agree), people would have said the global-warming was simply waiting in the proverbial wings. After all, science will tell us all (or not). One must simply wait for a small temp-change, either way, and enough of the populace to gullibly swallow one or the other theory.

I would go into my personal theory of “600-year cycles” (warm/cold & back again), but the idea would probably just be blown off.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:12:26 +0000

Global warming and cooling go hand in hand.

Both green house gases will continue to increase along with temperatures, until eventually the heat from the sun can no longer penertrate the atmosphere. This will lead to an ice age as tempertures drop rapidly. This is a normal pattern of change for the earth, it has happend before and, it will happen again.

Now, on the subject of us expediating this global process, well, there is data either way. I’m sure we do make a small impact, but i wouldn’t say that we were artifically creating this process simply due to our existance on earth.

On a personal note, i can say with certainty that the temperture is rising. I remember when it used to snow every xmas (mid/late december) here in the uk when i was a child (i’m 26 btw).

Much of this is just common sense. You could read endless conflicting arguments, but the process i outlined above just makes sense logically. As the earth evolves these same patterns just repeat over and over.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sun, 26 Mar 2006 01:30:44 +0000

“London, New York, Tokyo and other major cities could be under water by 2100″

This is bad? =p

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sun, 26 Mar 2006 01:20:26 +0000

The full article (as found in Usenet) is available upon request. Comparing it to the original article here on p2pnet.net, it invites some *very* interesting comparisons (1/2 a degree down, 1/2 a degree up; ad imfinitum).

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sun, 26 Mar 2006 01:16:11 +0000

That ‘Dubya’ just may be correct on a number of assumptions, re “warming”. I was wandering around Usenet (newsgroups) yesterday, and saw what purported to be text copied-over from an article in Newsweek magazine, circa 28 April, 1975. The title (as was seen in Usenet) is:

“Freeze Warning for entire world (Global Cooling)”
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“The Cooling World” - by Peter Gwynne”

The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it. In England, farmers have seen their growing season decline by about two weeks since 1950

“So massively”. Hasn’t something along these same line(s) been mentioned re “warming”?

A survey completed last year by Dr. Murray Mitchell of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reveals a drop of half a degree in average ground temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere between 1945 and 1968. According to George Kukla of Columbia University, satellite photos indicated a sudden, large increase in Northern Hemisphere snow cover in the winter of 1971-72. And a study released last month by two NOAA scientists notes that the amount of sunshine reaching the ground in the continental U.S. diminished by 1.3% between 1964 and 1972

“of half a degree”. Where has this been seen before?

To the layman, the relatively small changes in temperature and sunshine can be highly misleading. Reid Bryson of the University of Wisconsin points out that the Earth’s average temperature during the great Ice Ages was only about seven degrees lower than during its warmest eras – and that the present decline has taken the planet about a sixth of the way toward the Ice Age average

“the present decline has taken the planet about a sixth of the way toward the Ice Age average”

Anyone for Novosibirsk/St. Petersburg? No, I didn’t think so either.

Others regard the cooling as a reversion to the “little ice age”

“Others”. With professional degrees in Bs, Ms, Phd (bull-s*it, more s*it, piled higher and deeper)?

Just what causes the onset of major and minor ice ages remains a mystery. “Our knowledge of the mechanisms of climatic change is at least as fragmentary as our data,” concedes the National Academy of Sciences report. “Not only are the basic scientific questions largely unanswered, but in many cases we do not yet know enough to pose the key questions.”

FINALLY. Someone “with a brain” (?) is actually getting around to USING it.