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	<title>Comments on: More Adsense click fraud BS</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-53972</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-53972</guid>
		<description>How many small websites have gotten the dreaded termination email from Google?   AdSense is a very clever scam.  

Here's how it works.  

Google never terminates anyone until they cross the threshold for payment.  Each month Google targets a predetermined quota of websites for non-payment of funds that have been earned by those websites.  They send out the standard termination notice knowing full well that the website owners have no recourse.   They tell the website owners that the funds that they have accrued will be returned to the advertisers when, in fact, no such return of funds to the advertisers ever occurs.   Google simply pockets the money AND they have enjoyed considerable free advertising on the "offending" websites.  Since this is done on a regular monthly basis this is a very lucrative 100% PROFIT CENTER for them.

This is why they only speak in vague generalities about why they have terminated a website.  This is why they will never answer a specific request to explain specific reasons for a website termination.

The Google AdSense program is a very slyly cloaked scam.  But only for the unfortunate websites that make it onto this month's quota list.  Everyone else thinks the program is great.  That is until they make it onto the monthly quota list.  Remember, the monthly quota list is a 100% PROFIT CENTER for Google.

I strongly urge all of you to find other more reputable firms to deal with.  They're out there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many small websites have gotten the dreaded termination email from Google?   AdSense is a very clever scam.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s how it works.  </p>
<p>Google never terminates anyone until they cross the threshold for payment.  Each month Google targets a predetermined quota of websites for non-payment of funds that have been earned by those websites.  They send out the standard termination notice knowing full well that the website owners have no recourse.   They tell the website owners that the funds that they have accrued will be returned to the advertisers when, in fact, no such return of funds to the advertisers ever occurs.   Google simply pockets the money AND they have enjoyed considerable free advertising on the &#8220;offending&#8221; websites.  Since this is done on a regular monthly basis this is a very lucrative 100% PROFIT CENTER for them.</p>
<p>This is why they only speak in vague generalities about why they have terminated a website.  This is why they will never answer a specific request to explain specific reasons for a website termination.</p>
<p>The Google AdSense program is a very slyly cloaked scam.  But only for the unfortunate websites that make it onto this month&#8217;s quota list.  Everyone else thinks the program is great.  That is until they make it onto the monthly quota list.  Remember, the monthly quota list is a 100% PROFIT CENTER for Google.</p>
<p>I strongly urge all of you to find other more reputable firms to deal with.  They&#8217;re out there!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-53803</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 05:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-53803</guid>
		<description>How many small websites have gotten the dreaded termination email from Google?   AdSense is a very clever scam.  

Here's how it works.  

Google never terminates anyone until they cross the threshold for payment.  Each month Google targets a predetermined quota of websites for non-payment of funds that have been earned by those websites.  They send out the standard termination notice knowing full well that the website owners have no recourse.   They tell the website owners that the funds that they have accrued will be returned to the advertisers when, in fact, no such return of funds to the advertisers ever occurs.   Google simply pockets the money AND they have enjoyed considerable free advertising on the "offending" websites.  Since this is done on a regular monthly basis this is a very lucrative 100% PROFIT CENTER for them.

This is why they only speak in vague generalities about why they have terminated a website.  This is why they will never answer a specific request to explain specific reasons for a website termination.

The Google AdSense program is a very slyly cloaked scam.  But only for the unfortunate websites that make it onto this month's quota list.  Everyone else thinks the program is great.  That is until they make it onto the monthly quota list.  Remember, the monthly quota list is a 100% PROFIT CENTER for Google.

I strongly urge all of you to find other more reputable firms to deal with.  They're out there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many small websites have gotten the dreaded termination email from Google?   AdSense is a very clever scam.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s how it works.  </p>
<p>Google never terminates anyone until they cross the threshold for payment.  Each month Google targets a predetermined quota of websites for non-payment of funds that have been earned by those websites.  They send out the standard termination notice knowing full well that the website owners have no recourse.   They tell the website owners that the funds that they have accrued will be returned to the advertisers when, in fact, no such return of funds to the advertisers ever occurs.   Google simply pockets the money AND they have enjoyed considerable free advertising on the &#8220;offending&#8221; websites.  Since this is done on a regular monthly basis this is a very lucrative 100% PROFIT CENTER for them.</p>
<p>This is why they only speak in vague generalities about why they have terminated a website.  This is why they will never answer a specific request to explain specific reasons for a website termination.</p>
<p>The Google AdSense program is a very slyly cloaked scam.  But only for the unfortunate websites that make it onto this month&#8217;s quota list.  Everyone else thinks the program is great.  That is until they make it onto the monthly quota list.  Remember, the monthly quota list is a 100% PROFIT CENTER for Google.</p>
<p>I strongly urge all of you to find other more reputable firms to deal with.  They&#8217;re out there!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-53800</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 05:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-53800</guid>
		<description>How many small websites have gotten the dreaded termination email from Google?   AdSense is a very clever scam.  

Here's how it works.  

Google never terminates anyone until they cross the threshold for payment.  Each month Google targets a predetermined quota of websites for non-payment of funds that have been earned by those websites.  They send out the standard termination notice knowing full well that the website owners have no recourse.   They tell the website owners that the funds that they have accrued will be returned to the advertisers when, in fact, no such return of funds to the advertisers ever occurs.   Google simply pockets the money AND they have enjoyed considerable free advertising on the "offending" websites.  Since this is done on a regular monthly basis this is a very lucrative 100% PROFIT CENTER for them.

This is why they only speak in vague generalities about why they have terminated a website.  This is why they will never answer a specific request to explain specific reasons for a website termination.

The Google AdSense program is a very slyly cloaked scam.  But only for the unfortunate websites that make it onto this month's quota list.  Everyone else thinks the program is great.  That is until they make it onto the monthly quota list.  Remember, the monthly quota list is a 100% PROFIT CENTER for Google.

I strongly urge all of you to find other more reputable firms to deal with.  They're out there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many small websites have gotten the dreaded termination email from Google?   AdSense is a very clever scam.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s how it works.  </p>
<p>Google never terminates anyone until they cross the threshold for payment.  Each month Google targets a predetermined quota of websites for non-payment of funds that have been earned by those websites.  They send out the standard termination notice knowing full well that the website owners have no recourse.   They tell the website owners that the funds that they have accrued will be returned to the advertisers when, in fact, no such return of funds to the advertisers ever occurs.   Google simply pockets the money AND they have enjoyed considerable free advertising on the &#8220;offending&#8221; websites.  Since this is done on a regular monthly basis this is a very lucrative 100% PROFIT CENTER for them.</p>
<p>This is why they only speak in vague generalities about why they have terminated a website.  This is why they will never answer a specific request to explain specific reasons for a website termination.</p>
<p>The Google AdSense program is a very slyly cloaked scam.  But only for the unfortunate websites that make it onto this month&#8217;s quota list.  Everyone else thinks the program is great.  That is until they make it onto the monthly quota list.  Remember, the monthly quota list is a 100% PROFIT CENTER for Google.</p>
<p>I strongly urge all of you to find other more reputable firms to deal with.  They&#8217;re out there!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-53789</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 03:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-53789</guid>
		<description>How many small websites have gotten the dreaded termination email from Google?   AdSense is a very clever scam.  

Here's how it works.  

Google never terminates anyone until they cross the threshold for payment.  Each month Google targets a predetermined quota of websites for non-payment of funds that have been earned by those websites.  They send out the standard termination notice knowing full well that the website owners have no recourse.   They tell the website owners that the funds that they have accrued will be returned to the advertisers when, in fact, no such return of funds to the advertisers ever occurs.   Google simply pockets the money AND they have enjoyed considerable free advertising on the "offending" websites.  Since this is done on a regular monthly basis this is a very lucrative 100% PROFIT CENTER for them.

This is why they only speak in vague generalities about why they have terminated a website.  This is why they will never answer a specific request to explain specific reasons for a website termination.

The Google AdSense program is a very slyly cloaked scam.  But only for the unfortunate websites that make it onto this month's quota list.  Everyone else thinks the program is great.  That is until they make it onto the monthly quota list.  Remember, the monthly quota list is a 100% PROFIT CENTER for Google.

I strongly urge all of you to find other more reputable firms to deal with.  They're out there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many small websites have gotten the dreaded termination email from Google?   AdSense is a very clever scam.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s how it works.  </p>
<p>Google never terminates anyone until they cross the threshold for payment.  Each month Google targets a predetermined quota of websites for non-payment of funds that have been earned by those websites.  They send out the standard termination notice knowing full well that the website owners have no recourse.   They tell the website owners that the funds that they have accrued will be returned to the advertisers when, in fact, no such return of funds to the advertisers ever occurs.   Google simply pockets the money AND they have enjoyed considerable free advertising on the &#8220;offending&#8221; websites.  Since this is done on a regular monthly basis this is a very lucrative 100% PROFIT CENTER for them.</p>
<p>This is why they only speak in vague generalities about why they have terminated a website.  This is why they will never answer a specific request to explain specific reasons for a website termination.</p>
<p>The Google AdSense program is a very slyly cloaked scam.  But only for the unfortunate websites that make it onto this month&#8217;s quota list.  Everyone else thinks the program is great.  That is until they make it onto the monthly quota list.  Remember, the monthly quota list is a 100% PROFIT CENTER for Google.</p>
<p>I strongly urge all of you to find other more reputable firms to deal with.  They&#8217;re out there!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-39969</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 01:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-39969</guid>
		<description>Well I am now a firm believer that GOOGLE adsense is a scam. I signed my site up for it feburary, we made $200 first month (which was paid), following month we jumped up to $487 due to increased traffic from all the bad weather we has seen in the USA. Today recieved my letter from Google telling me I will not be paid. Nobody here clicked any of the ads on the site www.livewxradar.com 


It has come to our attention that invalid clicks have been generated on the Google ads on your site(s). We have therefore disabled your Google AdSense account. Please understand that this step was taken in an effort to protect the interest of the AdWords advertisers.

A publisher's site may not have invalid clicks on any ad(s), including but not limited to clicks generated by:

- a publisher on his own web pages
- a publisher encouraging others to click on his ads
- automated clicking programs or any other deceptive software
- a publisher altering any portion of the ad code or changing the layout, behavior, targeting, or delivery of ads for any reason

Practices such as these are in violation of the Google AdSense Terms and Conditions and program polices, which can be viewed at:

https://www.google.com/adsense/localized-terms?hl=en_US
https://www.google.com/adsense/policies?hl=en_US

Publishers disabled for invalid click activity are not allowed further participation in AdSense and do not receive any further payment. The earnings on your account will be properly returned to the affected advertisers.

Sincerely,

The Google AdSense Team
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I am now a firm believer that GOOGLE adsense is a scam. I signed my site up for it feburary, we made $200 first month (which was paid), following month we jumped up to $487 due to increased traffic from all the bad weather we has seen in the USA. Today recieved my letter from Google telling me I will not be paid. Nobody here clicked any of the ads on the site <a href="http://www.livewxradar.com" rel="nofollow">www.livewxradar.com</a> </p>
<p>It has come to our attention that invalid clicks have been generated on the Google ads on your site(s). We have therefore disabled your Google AdSense account. Please understand that this step was taken in an effort to protect the interest of the AdWords advertisers.</p>
<p>A publisher&#8217;s site may not have invalid clicks on any ad(s), including but not limited to clicks generated by:</p>
<p>- a publisher on his own web pages<br />
- a publisher encouraging others to click on his ads<br />
- automated clicking programs or any other deceptive software<br />
- a publisher altering any portion of the ad code or changing the layout, behavior, targeting, or delivery of ads for any reason</p>
<p>Practices such as these are in violation of the Google AdSense Terms and Conditions and program polices, which can be viewed at:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.google.com/adsense/localized-terms?hl=en_US" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/adsense/localized-terms?hl=en_US</a><br />
<a href="https://www.google.com/adsense/policies?hl=en_US" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/adsense/policies?hl=en_US</a></p>
<p>Publishers disabled for invalid click activity are not allowed further participation in AdSense and do not receive any further payment. The earnings on your account will be properly returned to the affected advertisers.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>The Google AdSense Team</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-39966</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 00:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-39966</guid>
		<description>Well I am now a firm believer that GOOGLE adsense is a scam. I signed my site up for it feburary, we made $200 first month (which was paid), following month we jumped up to $487 due to increased traffic from all the bad weather we has seen in the USA. Today recieved my letter from Google telling me I will not be paid. Nobody here clicked any of the ads on the site www.livewxradar.com 


It has come to our attention that invalid clicks have been generated on the Google ads on your site(s). We have therefore disabled your Google AdSense account. Please understand that this step was taken in an effort to protect the interest of the AdWords advertisers.

A publisher's site may not have invalid clicks on any ad(s), including but not limited to clicks generated by:

- a publisher on his own web pages
- a publisher encouraging others to click on his ads
- automated clicking programs or any other deceptive software
- a publisher altering any portion of the ad code or changing the layout, behavior, targeting, or delivery of ads for any reason

Practices such as these are in violation of the Google AdSense Terms and Conditions and program polices, which can be viewed at:

https://www.google.com/adsense/localized-terms?hl=en_US
https://www.google.com/adsense/policies?hl=en_US

Publishers disabled for invalid click activity are not allowed further participation in AdSense and do not receive any further payment. The earnings on your account will be properly returned to the affected advertisers.

Sincerely,

The Google AdSense Team
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I am now a firm believer that GOOGLE adsense is a scam. I signed my site up for it feburary, we made $200 first month (which was paid), following month we jumped up to $487 due to increased traffic from all the bad weather we has seen in the USA. Today recieved my letter from Google telling me I will not be paid. Nobody here clicked any of the ads on the site <a href="http://www.livewxradar.com" rel="nofollow">www.livewxradar.com</a> </p>
<p>It has come to our attention that invalid clicks have been generated on the Google ads on your site(s). We have therefore disabled your Google AdSense account. Please understand that this step was taken in an effort to protect the interest of the AdWords advertisers.</p>
<p>A publisher&#8217;s site may not have invalid clicks on any ad(s), including but not limited to clicks generated by:</p>
<p>- a publisher on his own web pages<br />
- a publisher encouraging others to click on his ads<br />
- automated clicking programs or any other deceptive software<br />
- a publisher altering any portion of the ad code or changing the layout, behavior, targeting, or delivery of ads for any reason</p>
<p>Practices such as these are in violation of the Google AdSense Terms and Conditions and program polices, which can be viewed at:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.google.com/adsense/localized-terms?hl=en_US" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/adsense/localized-terms?hl=en_US</a><br />
<a href="https://www.google.com/adsense/policies?hl=en_US" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/adsense/policies?hl=en_US</a></p>
<p>Publishers disabled for invalid click activity are not allowed further participation in AdSense and do not receive any further payment. The earnings on your account will be properly returned to the affected advertisers.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>The Google AdSense Team</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-38099</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-38099</guid>
		<description>Me too!!!

Bastards at Google! screw you larry and brin!
I'm trying Yahoo! I hope it works</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too!!!</p>
<p>Bastards at Google! screw you larry and brin!<br />
I&#8217;m trying Yahoo! I hope it works</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-38064</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-38064</guid>
		<description>I don't think that multiple connections from a browser have anyting to do with it... there is going to be only 1 connection for 1 add-click

I'd define actions for "click fraud" as multiple (X) clicks on add from same ip (Y) in small time period (Z)

And that makes me think about anonymizers ... since regulars of this site think about privacy multiple users are probably connectiong thru same anonymizers - this accounts for X &#038; Y ... if many click in small timeframe (Z) you have just commited click-fraud...

Any thoughts on this?
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that multiple connections from a browser have anyting to do with it&#8230; there is going to be only 1 connection for 1 add-click</p>
<p>I&#8217;d define actions for &#8220;click fraud&#8221; as multiple (X) clicks on add from same ip (Y) in small time period (Z)</p>
<p>And that makes me think about anonymizers &#8230; since regulars of this site think about privacy multiple users are probably connectiong thru same anonymizers - this accounts for X &#038; Y &#8230; if many click in small timeframe (Z) you have just commited click-fraud&#8230;</p>
<p>Any thoughts on this?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-38000</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-38000</guid>
		<description>Some time ago, I ran a site on a collection of guides, this was a free service in which I never charged any money. All I had was AdSense which was only my funding. One month, I had an unexpected surge of traffic the highest I ever been, I was also tracking how many clicks were onto links, which was very high. I also suspected AdSense to have a lot of click, but at the end of the month, all my advertisement was pulled, needless to say, I lost everything, I could no longer run my site or even pay for the doman. Google never explained their actions, they only sent me an email saying "click fraud". I emailed the CEO and made a lot of smoke, but nothing works. I am too waiting for a class action suit to sue Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some time ago, I ran a site on a collection of guides, this was a free service in which I never charged any money. All I had was AdSense which was only my funding. One month, I had an unexpected surge of traffic the highest I ever been, I was also tracking how many clicks were onto links, which was very high. I also suspected AdSense to have a lot of click, but at the end of the month, all my advertisement was pulled, needless to say, I lost everything, I could no longer run my site or even pay for the doman. Google never explained their actions, they only sent me an email saying &#8220;click fraud&#8221;. I emailed the CEO and made a lot of smoke, but nothing works. I am too waiting for a class action suit to sue Google.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-37996</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 22:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-37996</guid>
		<description>Google is full of shit, don't use third party ads, hunt down companies on your own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google is full of shit, don&#8217;t use third party ads, hunt down companies on your own.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-37993</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-37993</guid>
		<description>That's wierd about PayPal... I was selling some Rose Bowl tickets earlier this year and got a CALL saying they needed to verify the authenticity of the tickets before they gave me my money... It wasn't a huge deal but it was human contact.... (And yes, it was them, I missed the call and called them back to get the general PayPal switch board.... )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s wierd about PayPal&#8230; I was selling some Rose Bowl tickets earlier this year and got a CALL saying they needed to verify the authenticity of the tickets before they gave me my money&#8230; It wasn&#8217;t a huge deal but it was human contact&#8230;. (And yes, it was them, I missed the call and called them back to get the general PayPal switch board&#8230;. )</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-37992</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8481#comment-37992</guid>
		<description>Something that should be fairly simple for Google - they need to GIVE people the ip address of the 'offender' that is causing the problems on these sites...

My thought on where it's coming from? Search engines, webcache sites, etc... Yep, those are bots and in the case of the webcache bots they could definitely follow the links in your pages but even still that would only be a few times a month and a small amount of clicks..

One other idea - people could have their web browser setup wrong?  I'm not sure what impact Google’s adsense as they never say 'really' what made them call it clickfraud.. however, on my Mesilla if I go to this page to config it ( about:config ) and filter by " http ", I can change the number of connections my browser makes to websites - basically, up to a point, it speeds up your internet browsing my multisource connecting to websites (the same reason people use download managers - multiple connections speed up most downloads as the typical http/ftp server has per-connection bandwidth limits in place but allow a few connections per ip to get in)...

By default my browser is set to have 24 max connections, with 8 per server - if adsense is thinking that more than one connection by a single ip is clickfraud then just this simple browser's default setting would cause problems (I don’t know what the defaults are in ie - I don’t use it). Even if 8 connections per server were 'ok' I could set it to 1000 (this would be stupid but just for the point of saying it, well, I'm just sayin it lol) and visit sites I don’t like and wala - they'd all lose their accounts. 

I'd like Google/adsense to post a list of the sites and the top 10 ip's to each one that are getting them listed as taking part in clickfraud - I have a feeling they'd have a few of the ip's if not most/all of them matching.

The lack of transparency on their allegations makes their own actions questionable.. and the fact that they didn't reply to your email Jon is saddening but not surprising as I'm sure they're getting lots of email atm lol - they're morons.

If you want your question answered - it will cost you $2.50 - no joke. http://answers.google.com/answers/

Ran across another person having adsense problems while looking for Google CEO's email address (which by the way is ESchmidt@google.com and EricSchmidt1@yahoo.com)..  http://anarchangel.mu.nu/archives/159009.php..   Funny but I have a feeling Google will be the next big bust on the net - hope you're not a stock holder.

You could try sending an email over to Eric and see what happens as well.

Just my 10 cents.
_-Jile-_</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something that should be fairly simple for Google - they need to GIVE people the ip address of the &#8216;offender&#8217; that is causing the problems on these sites&#8230;</p>
<p>My thought on where it&#8217;s coming from? Search engines, webcache sites, etc&#8230; Yep, those are bots and in the case of the webcache bots they could definitely follow the links in your pages but even still that would only be a few times a month and a small amount of clicks..</p>
<p>One other idea - people could have their web browser setup wrong?  I&#8217;m not sure what impact Google’s adsense as they never say &#8216;really&#8217; what made them call it clickfraud.. however, on my Mesilla if I go to this page to config it ( about:config ) and filter by &#8221; http &#8220;, I can change the number of connections my browser makes to websites - basically, up to a point, it speeds up your internet browsing my multisource connecting to websites (the same reason people use download managers - multiple connections speed up most downloads as the typical http/ftp server has per-connection bandwidth limits in place but allow a few connections per ip to get in)&#8230;</p>
<p>By default my browser is set to have 24 max connections, with 8 per server - if adsense is thinking that more than one connection by a single ip is clickfraud then just this simple browser&#8217;s default setting would cause problems (I don’t know what the defaults are in ie - I don’t use it). Even if 8 connections per server were &#8216;ok&#8217; I could set it to 1000 (this would be stupid but just for the point of saying it, well, I&#8217;m just sayin it lol) and visit sites I don’t like and wala - they&#8217;d all lose their accounts. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like Google/adsense to post a list of the sites and the top 10 ip&#8217;s to each one that are getting them listed as taking part in clickfraud - I have a feeling they&#8217;d have a few of the ip&#8217;s if not most/all of them matching.</p>
<p>The lack of transparency on their allegations makes their own actions questionable.. and the fact that they didn&#8217;t reply to your email Jon is saddening but not surprising as I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re getting lots of email atm lol - they&#8217;re morons.</p>
<p>If you want your question answered - it will cost you $2.50 - no joke. <a href="http://answers.google.com/answers/" rel="nofollow">http://answers.google.com/answers/</a></p>
<p>Ran across another person having adsense problems while looking for Google CEO&#8217;s email address (which by the way is <a href="mailto:ESchmidt@google.com">ESchmidt@google.com</a> and <a href="mailto:EricSchmidt1@yahoo.com)..">EricSchmidt1@yahoo.com)..</a>  <a href="http://anarchangel.mu.nu/archives/159009.php.." rel="nofollow">http://anarchangel.mu.nu/archives/159009.php..</a>   Funny but I have a feeling Google will be the next big bust on the net - hope you&#8217;re not a stock holder.</p>
<p>You could try sending an email over to Eric and see what happens as well.</p>
<p>Just my 10 cents.<br />
_-Jile-_</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 20:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now you know how many indivual ebay sellers feel. People there get suspended, insulted and ripped off with no explanation why. Contact is only thru an email robot with the I.Q. of a pocket calculator. If the beef is with PayPal, its even worse as money is usually seized and never returned or returned only after a lengthly stay in the PP account. Somehow I think that these totally online operations are never going to be very useful to individuals who have no recourse. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now you know how many indivual ebay sellers feel. People there get suspended, insulted and ripped off with no explanation why. Contact is only thru an email robot with the I.Q. of a pocket calculator. If the beef is with PayPal, its even worse as money is usually seized and never returned or returned only after a lengthly stay in the PP account. Somehow I think that these totally online operations are never going to be very useful to individuals who have no recourse.</p>
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