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	<title>Comments on: Apple trouble: crash and burn</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8611#comment-39157</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8611#comment-39157</guid>
		<description>It's evident that you're ignorant of Apple's Darwin to have made such a statement:

http://developer.apple.com/opensource/faq.html

Darwin is an open source project and there's already an open source community of developers working on it.

To quote Apple: "Darwin is the UNIX core of MAC OS X"
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s evident that you&#8217;re ignorant of Apple&#8217;s Darwin to have made such a statement:</p>
<p><a href="http://developer.apple.com/opensource/faq.html" rel="nofollow">http://developer.apple.com/opensource/faq.html</a></p>
<p>Darwin is an open source project and there&#8217;s already an open source community of developers working on it.</p>
<p>To quote Apple: &#8220;Darwin is the UNIX core of MAC OS X&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8611#comment-39141</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8611#comment-39141</guid>
		<description>As a Mac user for the last 15 years, I have yet to have felt the need to protect my Mac from any virus, worm or indeed any of the security issues that plague the world of windows users.
The article is both inflammatory and vague. What is "fuzzing". And what is a "fuzzer".
Tom Ferris claims that he has written one.  Has he sent it to Apple, so that any neccessary OS patches can be delivered by Apple to protect us.
If he does not do this, then his motives and honesty can only be as suspect as the headline to the article, which I suspect is the spreading of FUD by  frustrated and angry Windows user.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Mac user for the last 15 years, I have yet to have felt the need to protect my Mac from any virus, worm or indeed any of the security issues that plague the world of windows users.<br />
The article is both inflammatory and vague. What is &#8220;fuzzing&#8221;. And what is a &#8220;fuzzer&#8221;.<br />
Tom Ferris claims that he has written one.  Has he sent it to Apple, so that any neccessary OS patches can be delivered by Apple to protect us.<br />
If he does not do this, then his motives and honesty can only be as suspect as the headline to the article, which I suspect is the spreading of FUD by  frustrated and angry Windows user.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8611#comment-39128</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 05:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8611#comment-39128</guid>
		<description>&#62; Prehaps the worse move yet for Apple has been going to Intel for the chip.
&#62; That makes hacking into it a lot easier because there are a lot of folks out
&#62; there with Intel experience in taking advanage of weaknesses.

1. Please identify how the "vulnerabilities" detailed here have anything to do with the processor, rather than the operating system and other software.

2. Please explain how both Windows and Linux have run on Intel hardware for years, yet Windows seems to have many times more reported vulnerabilities and security issues than Linux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Prehaps the worse move yet for Apple has been going to Intel for the chip.<br />
&gt; That makes hacking into it a lot easier because there are a lot of folks out<br />
&gt; there with Intel experience in taking advanage of weaknesses.</p>
<p>1. Please identify how the &#8220;vulnerabilities&#8221; detailed here have anything to do with the processor, rather than the operating system and other software.</p>
<p>2. Please explain how both Windows and Linux have run on Intel hardware for years, yet Windows seems to have many times more reported vulnerabilities and security issues than Linux.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8611#comment-39127</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 04:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8611#comment-39127</guid>
		<description>Wow. Let's review:

• Mac OS X has bugs.
• If you do something to cause one application or service to crash, other applications and/or services can crash.
• An OS based on UNIX is not invulnerable.

Thanks for the update. Oh, almost forgot:

• p2pnet.net will grasp at almost any story, no matter how ridiculously flimsy, that denigrates Apple, simply because they have the audacity to require people to pay for music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Let&#8217;s review:</p>
<p>• Mac OS X has bugs.<br />
• If you do something to cause one application or service to crash, other applications and/or services can crash.<br />
• An OS based on UNIX is not invulnerable.</p>
<p>Thanks for the update. Oh, almost forgot:</p>
<p>• p2pnet.net will grasp at almost any story, no matter how ridiculously flimsy, that denigrates Apple, simply because they have the audacity to require people to pay for music.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8611#comment-39123</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 03:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8611#comment-39123</guid>
		<description>Since these are tests, the sort of thing that comes before "proof of concept" not many are able to reproduce these YET. YET is the operative word in this. Just because it hasn't been done yet, doesn't mean it won't. If this guy can find them and announce they exist, then others will find them that have less than your security in mind. 

This is the first step in producing bugs that allow hacks into the system. Unless Apple does something about it now, not only will you be hearing of unscruplious tactics using these methods but there won't be any protections to keep them out. Apple is notorious for not having a lot of viruses and so there aren't many appliciations to fix what hasn't in the past been a problem. 

Prehaps the worse move yet for Apple has been going to Intel for the chip. That makes hacking  into it a lot easier because there are a lot of folks out there with Intel experience in taking advanage of weaknesses. Most of the problems with this sort of stuff have started surfacing since the change, not before. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since these are tests, the sort of thing that comes before &#8220;proof of concept&#8221; not many are able to reproduce these YET. YET is the operative word in this. Just because it hasn&#8217;t been done yet, doesn&#8217;t mean it won&#8217;t. If this guy can find them and announce they exist, then others will find them that have less than your security in mind. </p>
<p>This is the first step in producing bugs that allow hacks into the system. Unless Apple does something about it now, not only will you be hearing of unscruplious tactics using these methods but there won&#8217;t be any protections to keep them out. Apple is notorious for not having a lot of viruses and so there aren&#8217;t many appliciations to fix what hasn&#8217;t in the past been a problem. </p>
<p>Prehaps the worse move yet for Apple has been going to Intel for the chip. That makes hacking  into it a lot easier because there are a lot of folks out there with Intel experience in taking advanage of weaknesses. Most of the problems with this sort of stuff have started surfacing since the change, not before.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8611#comment-39089</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8611#comment-39089</guid>
		<description>This is awful. I'm sure it will be at least as bad as the last time vulnerabilities like this were uncovered. If this keeps escalating the way it seems to be I'm sure the day may come when something bad happens to a mac user's computer. already drunken batman has made people lose all their open tabs in safari. Its worse than Windows in that those people don't even use anti virus programs- I understand there is some problem coming up with virus definitions for such programs in OS X. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is awful. I&#8217;m sure it will be at least as bad as the last time vulnerabilities like this were uncovered. If this keeps escalating the way it seems to be I&#8217;m sure the day may come when something bad happens to a mac user&#8217;s computer. already drunken batman has made people lose all their open tabs in safari. Its worse than Windows in that those people don&#8217;t even use anti virus programs- I understand there is some problem coming up with virus definitions for such programs in OS X.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8611#comment-39082</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 20:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8611#comment-39082</guid>
		<description>Funny how no one seems to have any "real" problems with these bugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how no one seems to have any &#8220;real&#8221; problems with these bugs.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8611#comment-39077</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8611#comment-39077</guid>
		<description>Apple should open up the MAC OS/X source. Join the open source community and it will receive better beta testing and user feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple should open up the MAC OS/X source. Join the open source community and it will receive better beta testing and user feedback.</p>
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