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	<title>Comments on: eBay man sentenced to jail</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8656/comment-page-1#comment-39671</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 07:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some people, it&#039;s the only game in town if they wish to accept credit card payments.  Paypal&#039;s factors (credit card fees) are much more reasonable than some alternatives like StormPay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some people, it&#8217;s the only game in town if they wish to accept credit card payments.  Paypal&#8217;s factors (credit card fees) are much more reasonable than some alternatives like StormPay.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8656/comment-page-1#comment-39282</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sot of stuff happens a lot with PayPal accounts.
I wonder why people still using their services.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sot of stuff happens a lot with PayPal accounts.<br />
I wonder why people still using their services.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8656/comment-page-1#comment-39264</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 03:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the alleged conduct of the Mr. Horicianu is certainly not acceptable, neither is impounding (confiscating? stealing?) the money in Paypal accounts where there is only a mere allegation of a violation of Paypal&#039;s terms of service.  Very little in the way of due process is accorded the alleged &#039;violator.&#039;  Even if there was a violation, but it didn&#039;t involve fraud (like collecting payment for some naughty adult item that was delivered to a satisfied customer) they should remit the balance to the account holder and close the account.  Instead the balance is forfeited as &#039;damages&#039; for the violation, even though the fees for the payments have been dedected from the subscriber&#039;s account.  It would be a big stretch to then litigate a claim of damages in civil court.

Furthermore, there are some clever traps embedded in the ebay/Paypal dynamic whereby one can legitimately sell items on ebay within the scope of ebay TOS, yet using Paypal to collect payment for such items violates Paypal TOS.  It would be extremely cynical to think this was a deliberate strategy on the part of ebay, but almost nothing is surprising these days.

--TG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the alleged conduct of the Mr. Horicianu is certainly not acceptable, neither is impounding (confiscating? stealing?) the money in Paypal accounts where there is only a mere allegation of a violation of Paypal&#8217;s terms of service.  Very little in the way of due process is accorded the alleged &#8216;violator.&#8217;  Even if there was a violation, but it didn&#8217;t involve fraud (like collecting payment for some naughty adult item that was delivered to a satisfied customer) they should remit the balance to the account holder and close the account.  Instead the balance is forfeited as &#8216;damages&#8217; for the violation, even though the fees for the payments have been dedected from the subscriber&#8217;s account.  It would be a big stretch to then litigate a claim of damages in civil court.</p>
<p>Furthermore, there are some clever traps embedded in the ebay/Paypal dynamic whereby one can legitimately sell items on ebay within the scope of ebay TOS, yet using Paypal to collect payment for such items violates Paypal TOS.  It would be extremely cynical to think this was a deliberate strategy on the part of ebay, but almost nothing is surprising these days.</p>
<p>&#8211;TG</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8656/comment-page-1#comment-39262</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 03:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I suppose you could write perfect Romanian without making a single mistake?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I suppose you could write perfect Romanian without making a single mistake?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8656/comment-page-1#comment-39249</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ebay DOES have a way with people.&quot;

And taking matters into its own hands, especially eBay/PayPal:

http://www.paypalsucks.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ebay DOES have a way with people.&#8221;</p>
<p>And taking matters into its own hands, especially eBay/PayPal:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.paypalsucks.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.paypalsucks.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8656/comment-page-1#comment-39238</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 00:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to know what the original beef was.  Ebay DOES have a way with people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to know what the original beef was.  Ebay DOES have a way with people.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8656/comment-page-1#comment-39233</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When he said haunt perhaps he meant hunt anyway what a moron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When he said haunt perhaps he meant hunt anyway what a moron</p>
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