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	<title>Comments on: p2pnet talks to Bram Cohen</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8684/comment-page-1#comment-39905</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 20:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;p2pnet: Do you believe a time will eventually come when a genuine accord will be reached between the major movie and music companies and their customers?


Cohen: Not sure what you mean. They&#039;re quite happy with their paying customers.&quot;

Wow...no followup to this question?  tsk tsk...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;p2pnet: Do you believe a time will eventually come when a genuine accord will be reached between the major movie and music companies and their customers?</p>
<p>Cohen: Not sure what you mean. They&#8217;re quite happy with their paying customers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow&#8230;no followup to this question?  tsk tsk&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8684/comment-page-1#comment-39902</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 19:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Cohen: We&#039;re already talking to all of those entities, and they&#039;re being quite reasonable.&quot;

Ha...he totaly pwned p2pnet...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Cohen: We&#8217;re already talking to all of those entities, and they&#8217;re being quite reasonable.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ha&#8230;he totaly pwned p2pnet&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8684/comment-page-1#comment-39867</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 02:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever BitTorrent based legal download service you set up for the MPAA or RIAA, if it got DRM, i&#039;m not interested, and most of the people who suckered for DRM are on Itunes and they seem happy there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever BitTorrent based legal download service you set up for the MPAA or RIAA, if it got DRM, i&#8217;m not interested, and most of the people who suckered for DRM are on Itunes and they seem happy there.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8684/comment-page-1#comment-39866</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 02:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever BitTorrent based legal download service you set up for the MPAA or RIAA, if it got DRM, i&#039;m not interested, and most of the people who suckered for DRM are on Itunes and they seem happy there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever BitTorrent based legal download service you set up for the MPAA or RIAA, if it got DRM, i&#8217;m not interested, and most of the people who suckered for DRM are on Itunes and they seem happy there.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8684/comment-page-1#comment-39676</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 09:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go to jail? For what? Saying what he means or feels? He&#039;s being a corporate sellout of the obvious kind and on top of that, is being politically correct to not offend his new-found buddies. Please, step off the Gestapo threat of going to jail for saying &quot;No! People who share/dl files for private/non-profit use are NOT criminals!&quot;. Sorry, Bram! I had respect for you man. But you allowed yourself to be duped into the business web of the worst scum. I understand you have a family and all and money is good, but this is way over that line. It&#039;s one thing to license your prot off to others for commercial use. I woud too...money is good. But to the cartels? Man you are a sellout. First good offer and you jump to the very people you know you hate. Cred lost man! Sorry Bram. You shauld have stayed non-corporate! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go to jail? For what? Saying what he means or feels? He&#8217;s being a corporate sellout of the obvious kind and on top of that, is being politically correct to not offend his new-found buddies. Please, step off the Gestapo threat of going to jail for saying &#8220;No! People who share/dl files for private/non-profit use are NOT criminals!&#8221;. Sorry, Bram! I had respect for you man. But you allowed yourself to be duped into the business web of the worst scum. I understand you have a family and all and money is good, but this is way over that line. It&#8217;s one thing to license your prot off to others for commercial use. I woud too&#8230;money is good. But to the cartels? Man you are a sellout. First good offer and you jump to the very people you know you hate. Cred lost man! Sorry Bram. You shauld have stayed non-corporate!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8684/comment-page-1#comment-39612</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 22:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No different than private citizens selling out to apathy by not getting involved (Remember: there were more US users of Napster than US citizens who voted for the president).

How many Canadians reading this have went to http://digital-copyright.ca and sent a letter to their member of parliament?

No different than privat citizens selling out to the MAFFIAA by continuing to enjoy their entertainment rather than switching to alternatives where there are not the same problem.

With the new Canadian Music Creators Coalition, will Canadian music fans be boycotting the music of any musician who is not a member of the coaltiion?  Not boycotting is a massive sell-out as far as I&#039;m concerned!


Sorry -- but I see far too much &quot;passing the buck&quot; when the people in these lists have influence that few seem to be exerting.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No different than private citizens selling out to apathy by not getting involved (Remember: there were more US users of Napster than US citizens who voted for the president).</p>
<p>How many Canadians reading this have went to <a href="http://digital-copyright.ca" rel="nofollow">http://digital-copyright.ca</a> and sent a letter to their member of parliament?</p>
<p>No different than privat citizens selling out to the MAFFIAA by continuing to enjoy their entertainment rather than switching to alternatives where there are not the same problem.</p>
<p>With the new Canadian Music Creators Coalition, will Canadian music fans be boycotting the music of any musician who is not a member of the coaltiion?  Not boycotting is a massive sell-out as far as I&#8217;m concerned!</p>
<p>Sorry &#8212; but I see far too much &#8220;passing the buck&#8221; when the people in these lists have influence that few seem to be exerting.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8684/comment-page-1#comment-39611</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 22:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with not being able to play all audio/video files is not a technical problem that can be solved in software, but a legal problem relating to patents on codecs.  My observation has been that whenever it is legal to author software to decode multimedia, a FLOSS project will exist to do so.

The primary problem is software patents which are highly controversial.  There are many legal experts that believe that we should either abolish software patents, or create a &quot;fair use&quot; regime that would allow people to implement patents without permission for cases such as implementation of standards or for the authoring of FLOSS (Where royalties don&#039;t exist, and thus RAND licensing is not possible).

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with not being able to play all audio/video files is not a technical problem that can be solved in software, but a legal problem relating to patents on codecs.  My observation has been that whenever it is legal to author software to decode multimedia, a FLOSS project will exist to do so.</p>
<p>The primary problem is software patents which are highly controversial.  There are many legal experts that believe that we should either abolish software patents, or create a &#8220;fair use&#8221; regime that would allow people to implement patents without permission for cases such as implementation of standards or for the authoring of FLOSS (Where royalties don&#8217;t exist, and thus RAND licensing is not possible).</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8684/comment-page-1#comment-39610</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see anything wrong with what Bram wrote, and is not all that different than what I would write if I were not involved in the policy side.  I think people here have forgotten that not everyone reads the same BLOG entries that they do, nor do they share the interpretations.

*MOST* people are entirely unaware of the lack of evidence in the cases that the Recording and motion picture industry associations are bringing forward.  They don&#039;t know that the lawsuits are often launched without any evidence that works that they are copyright holders of have been infringed.

This lack of understanding extends to many of the comments I&#039;ve seen on this site from people who think that unauthorized P2P sharing of music in Canada is legal.  This is based on a misinterpretation of the BMG vs. 29 Does cases where the major labels lost due to lack of evidence, not because unauthorized sharing of music was legal.


While we may have been watching the cases in the USA, it is quite reasonable that Bram -- who spends his time authoring software, not dealing with law or politics -- would have no idea.

The same type of thing can be said of Linus Torvalds (lead coordinator for Linux) who doesn&#039;t understand the issues with DRM.  He thinks it has something to do with people using digital locks (technical protection measures) to protect things which they own (something quite reasonable), rather than the reality which is that DRM is use of digital locks by copyright holder to lock down things which they do not own (our computers, PDA&#039;s, MP3 players, sterios, etc).

Is Linus Torvalds &quot;bought and paid for by the cartels&quot;? 

As to whether unauthorized sharing of music and movies via P2P is illegal (IE: is a copyright infringement), the answer is *YES*, under current law in both in Canada where I live and the USA where Bram lives.

Am *I* bought and paid for by the cartels?

Whether it *should* be illegal is an entirely different question.  I happen to believe that unauthorized non-commercial sharing of movies and music over the Internet should be legalized and monetized the same way as unauthorized playing of music over the radio or retransmission of television over cable:  with a levy that the sender pays that means they no longer require the permission of the copyright holder.

Then again, most people don&#039;t realize that there is an exception to copyright for communication of music over the radio or retransmission of television over cable.  They incorrectly believe that all copyright holders are the same, and think that if you need permission to make a copy of a book that you should need permission to share music.   The copyright act is full of exceptions to the general rule of requiring permission from the copyright holder.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see anything wrong with what Bram wrote, and is not all that different than what I would write if I were not involved in the policy side.  I think people here have forgotten that not everyone reads the same BLOG entries that they do, nor do they share the interpretations.</p>
<p>*MOST* people are entirely unaware of the lack of evidence in the cases that the Recording and motion picture industry associations are bringing forward.  They don&#8217;t know that the lawsuits are often launched without any evidence that works that they are copyright holders of have been infringed.</p>
<p>This lack of understanding extends to many of the comments I&#8217;ve seen on this site from people who think that unauthorized P2P sharing of music in Canada is legal.  This is based on a misinterpretation of the BMG vs. 29 Does cases where the major labels lost due to lack of evidence, not because unauthorized sharing of music was legal.</p>
<p>While we may have been watching the cases in the USA, it is quite reasonable that Bram &#8212; who spends his time authoring software, not dealing with law or politics &#8212; would have no idea.</p>
<p>The same type of thing can be said of Linus Torvalds (lead coordinator for Linux) who doesn&#8217;t understand the issues with DRM.  He thinks it has something to do with people using digital locks (technical protection measures) to protect things which they own (something quite reasonable), rather than the reality which is that DRM is use of digital locks by copyright holder to lock down things which they do not own (our computers, PDA&#8217;s, MP3 players, sterios, etc).</p>
<p>Is Linus Torvalds &#8220;bought and paid for by the cartels&#8221;? </p>
<p>As to whether unauthorized sharing of music and movies via P2P is illegal (IE: is a copyright infringement), the answer is *YES*, under current law in both in Canada where I live and the USA where Bram lives.</p>
<p>Am *I* bought and paid for by the cartels?</p>
<p>Whether it *should* be illegal is an entirely different question.  I happen to believe that unauthorized non-commercial sharing of movies and music over the Internet should be legalized and monetized the same way as unauthorized playing of music over the radio or retransmission of television over cable:  with a levy that the sender pays that means they no longer require the permission of the copyright holder.</p>
<p>Then again, most people don&#8217;t realize that there is an exception to copyright for communication of music over the radio or retransmission of television over cable.  They incorrectly believe that all copyright holders are the same, and think that if you need permission to make a copy of a book that you should need permission to share music.   The copyright act is full of exceptions to the general rule of requiring permission from the copyright holder.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8684/comment-page-1#comment-39598</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said. But don&#039;t forget he is now under Hollywood control and no longer has the freedom to be truthful or to say what he really thinks. But it is still interesting.</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8684/comment-page-1#comment-39597</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was pretty content free. I don&#039;t know why people agree to answer questions, and then answer them in such a way that it&#039;s completely obvious they don&#039;t give a rat&#039;s ass about the interview.  Cohen should have just politely declined the interview if he couldn&#039;t be bothered to answer properly.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was pretty content free. I don&#8217;t know why people agree to answer questions, and then answer them in such a way that it&#8217;s completely obvious they don&#8217;t give a rat&#8217;s ass about the interview.  Cohen should have just politely declined the interview if he couldn&#8217;t be bothered to answer properly.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8684/comment-page-1#comment-39509</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 08:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what do you expect? do we expect him to go to jail for us? anyone want to take his place in prison?</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8684/comment-page-1#comment-39507</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 07:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man he so censored his self. Full of bull man. He definately knows what&#039;s going on lately with the RIAA &amp; MPAA. You can&#039;t ignore that kind of extortion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man he so censored his self. Full of bull man. He definately knows what&#8217;s going on lately with the RIAA &#038; MPAA. You can&#8217;t ignore that kind of extortion.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8684/comment-page-1#comment-39497</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 07:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&amp;newsId=20060426006027

why are these SOBs so greedy? the only reason they&#039;re popular is because of the free content!</description>
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<p>why are these SOBs so greedy? the only reason they&#8217;re popular is because of the free content!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8684/comment-page-1#comment-39495</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 07:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll bet his inbox will be filled with &#039;suggestions&#039; on how to answer those questions. You shouldn&#039;t of posted them for shills to pick up.

In any case, Bram Cohen in their pockets or not, these Cartels can&#039;t win on a global scale. Sure they bought US legislation, legislators, politicians and what have you. But they&#039;re up against the world, cultures where capitalism isn&#039;t the be all, end all and an internet that was designed to be libre.

With all due respect to our friends in America, don&#039;t be surprised to find yourselves boxed in at some point down the highway (it&#039;s already started). When that time comes, you&#039;ll have huge decisions to make. Americans have been through this before during prohibition and other issues, when they push back they mean it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll bet his inbox will be filled with &#8217;suggestions&#8217; on how to answer those questions. You shouldn&#8217;t of posted them for shills to pick up.</p>
<p>In any case, Bram Cohen in their pockets or not, these Cartels can&#8217;t win on a global scale. Sure they bought US legislation, legislators, politicians and what have you. But they&#8217;re up against the world, cultures where capitalism isn&#8217;t the be all, end all and an internet that was designed to be libre.</p>
<p>With all due respect to our friends in America, don&#8217;t be surprised to find yourselves boxed in at some point down the highway (it&#8217;s already started). When that time comes, you&#8217;ll have huge decisions to make. Americans have been through this before during prohibition and other issues, when they push back they mean it.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8684/comment-page-1#comment-39457</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 04:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bram&#039;s wife was literally having a baby when I got his replies and naturally, he wasn&#039;t around. But I left the questions below with him for when he gets back to work. 

I did think about holding the Q&amp;A until he was able to respond, but I&#039;m going to be in Europe (more on that Sunday or Monday) until May 8 so rather than hang around, I posted as-was.

Cheers!

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Bram: I&#039;m not sure what you&#039;re referring to, and of course am not involved in suing anybody.

Me: I wasn&#039;t suggesting you personally are going after anyone, man, woman or child. But here&#039;s one instance - http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7942. And there are others

AND

Bram: It certainly is illegal.

Me: That&#039;s debatable, but are the MPAA and RIAA right to call them criminals and thieves? 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bram&#8217;s wife was literally having a baby when I got his replies and naturally, he wasn&#8217;t around. But I left the questions below with him for when he gets back to work. </p>
<p>I did think about holding the Q&#038;A until he was able to respond, but I&#8217;m going to be in Europe (more on that Sunday or Monday) until May 8 so rather than hang around, I posted as-was.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
<p>=========================</p>
<p>Bram: I&#8217;m not sure what you&#8217;re referring to, and of course am not involved in suing anybody.</p>
<p>Me: I wasn&#8217;t suggesting you personally are going after anyone, man, woman or child. But here&#8217;s one instance &#8211; <a href="http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7942" rel="nofollow">http://www.p2pnet.net/story/7942</a>. And there are others</p>
<p>AND</p>
<p>Bram: It certainly is illegal.</p>
<p>Me: That&#8217;s debatable, but are the MPAA and RIAA right to call them criminals and thieves?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 04:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;ll be interesting see how he answers. If he answers.

Paul</description>
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<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 04:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No different then all the politicians selling out to the MAFIAA as well.</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 04:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bram.... Feel the hate rise within you... Feel the power of the dark side... 

Can&#039;t fault the guy for wanting to make a buck...
Actually, yes I can. Bram, you sold out to the worst of the a-holes and became one in the process.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bram&#8230;. Feel the hate rise within you&#8230; Feel the power of the dark side&#8230; </p>
<p>Can&#8217;t fault the guy for wanting to make a buck&#8230;<br />
Actually, yes I can. Bram, you sold out to the worst of the a-holes and became one in the process.</p>
<p>Pretty sad really.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 04:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You certainly hit it straight on catflap. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You certainly hit it straight on catflap. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8684/comment-page-1#comment-39451</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 03:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>did anyone expect anything other than cartel nonsense from the new MPAA/RIAA mouthpiece?

on sueing children:

&quot;I&#039;m not sure what you&#039;re referring to&quot;

on an accord between the cartels and the customers who pay their salaries:

&quot;Not sure what you mean.&quot;

on sharing legally purchased &quot;product&quot; for no profit and calling filesharers criminals:

&quot;It certainly is illegal.&quot;

bram, your ass was bought and paid for by the cartels. go away and play sudoku.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>did anyone expect anything other than cartel nonsense from the new MPAA/RIAA mouthpiece?</p>
<p>on sueing children:</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m not sure what you&#8217;re referring to&#8221;</p>
<p>on an accord between the cartels and the customers who pay their salaries:</p>
<p>&#8220;Not sure what you mean.&#8221;</p>
<p>on sharing legally purchased &#8220;product&#8221; for no profit and calling filesharers criminals:</p>
<p>&#8220;It certainly is illegal.&#8221;</p>
<p>bram, your ass was bought and paid for by the cartels. go away and play sudoku.</p>
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