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	<title>Comments on: Azureus: joining the Dark Side?</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8689#comment-124415</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 04:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8689#comment-39882</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 08:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8689#comment-39882</guid>
		<description>I've always been looking for an excuse to switch to the much lighterr utorrent... already got it installed and everything... I'll wait and see how this pans out, but there's a great chance that this is the end of Azureus. And a great shame, considering how they bested it on sourceforge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always been looking for an excuse to switch to the much lighterr utorrent&#8230; already got it installed and everything&#8230; I&#8217;ll wait and see how this pans out, but there&#8217;s a great chance that this is the end of Azureus. And a great shame, considering how they bested it on sourceforge.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8689#comment-39856</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 22:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8689#comment-39856</guid>
		<description>Everyone sells out. Almost every client that coms out and becomes popular sells out. They at first do this to help out the bittorrent network, but then they sell out. Bram became one of the cartels he is nothing but now but a backstabbing scum bag, utorrent and their signing the deal also i perfer to call them rotten bastards. utorrent never was open source, odd eh? azureus well they are bastards now. Maybe it isn't the necessary fact that the features are "bloated" because you can remove them yourself, but they shouldn't add useless features. I am planning to simply try make my own open sourced bittorrent client nice good features and lightweight. 

but here is the list of the sell outs:

utorrent
simonmoon and sharereactor
azureus 
bram
torrentspy admin

the list is endless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone sells out. Almost every client that coms out and becomes popular sells out. They at first do this to help out the bittorrent network, but then they sell out. Bram became one of the cartels he is nothing but now but a backstabbing scum bag, utorrent and their signing the deal also i perfer to call them rotten bastards. utorrent never was open source, odd eh? azureus well they are bastards now. Maybe it isn&#8217;t the necessary fact that the features are &#8220;bloated&#8221; because you can remove them yourself, but they shouldn&#8217;t add useless features. I am planning to simply try make my own open sourced bittorrent client nice good features and lightweight. </p>
<p>but here is the list of the sell outs:</p>
<p>utorrent<br />
simonmoon and sharereactor<br />
azureus<br />
bram<br />
torrentspy admin</p>
<p>the list is endless.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8689#comment-39857</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 22:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8689#comment-39857</guid>
		<description>Everyone sells out. Almost every client that coms out and becomes popular sells out. They at first do this to help out the bittorrent network, but then they sell out. Bram became one of the cartels he is nothing but now but a backstabbing scum bag, utorrent and their signing the deal also i perfer to call them rotten bastards. utorrent never was open source, odd eh? azureus well they are bastards now. Maybe it isn't the necessary fact that the features are "bloated" because you can remove them yourself, but they shouldn't add useless features. I am planning to simply try make my own open sourced bittorrent client nice good features and lightweight. 

but here is the list of the sell outs:

utorrent
simonmoon and sharereactor
azureus 
bram
torrentspy admin

the list is endless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone sells out. Almost every client that coms out and becomes popular sells out. They at first do this to help out the bittorrent network, but then they sell out. Bram became one of the cartels he is nothing but now but a backstabbing scum bag, utorrent and their signing the deal also i perfer to call them rotten bastards. utorrent never was open source, odd eh? azureus well they are bastards now. Maybe it isn&#8217;t the necessary fact that the features are &#8220;bloated&#8221; because you can remove them yourself, but they shouldn&#8217;t add useless features. I am planning to simply try make my own open sourced bittorrent client nice good features and lightweight. </p>
<p>but here is the list of the sell outs:</p>
<p>utorrent<br />
simonmoon and sharereactor<br />
azureus<br />
bram<br />
torrentspy admin</p>
<p>the list is endless.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8689#comment-39791</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 06:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8689#comment-39791</guid>
		<description>The opensource movement has effective nullified any software based DRM or restrictions before they are even thought of.  MPAA policy maker purchasers, be careful of the legislation you purchase because it can very well come back and bite you in the a$$.  

Hardware-based DRM may very well be different, but some enterprising hacker will find a way to use hardware based DRM to help the average person protect their privacy.  Just imagine a thief walking into a store ans stealing tens of thousands of dollars in merchandise with the security cameras helpless to stop the thief.  Of course the reason that the security cameras are unable to capture the thief is because of government mandated DRM circuitry picking up DRM signals transmitted by the thief.  The MPAA will make old school thievery very inviting.  Anybody want to actually steal music?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The opensource movement has effective nullified any software based DRM or restrictions before they are even thought of.  MPAA policy maker purchasers, be careful of the legislation you purchase because it can very well come back and bite you in the a$$.  </p>
<p>Hardware-based DRM may very well be different, but some enterprising hacker will find a way to use hardware based DRM to help the average person protect their privacy.  Just imagine a thief walking into a store ans stealing tens of thousands of dollars in merchandise with the security cameras helpless to stop the thief.  Of course the reason that the security cameras are unable to capture the thief is because of government mandated DRM circuitry picking up DRM signals transmitted by the thief.  The MPAA will make old school thievery very inviting.  Anybody want to actually steal music?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8689#comment-39682</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8689#comment-39682</guid>
		<description>Azureus is open source.  You can download the source code and all of the trimmings on Source Forge.

One person's "feature laden" is another person's "bloated."

How many companies do NOT buy Microsoft Office because 95% of the their users don't use 95% of the capabilities contained within it?

Know your way around code?  Stub out all the 'bloat' you don't want to deal with in Azureus.  Try asking Microsoft for the source for Office so you can do that so the IT Department you run only has to deploy 1500 machines with 512MB instead of 1GB of memory.

If you want a BT client with a small footprint and profile, Azureus would be your LAST choice.  Try mu-torrent instead.

Content Layer and DRM?  Look for the code to 'branch'.  One code branch will have it, the other won't.  Azureus is NOT just one person.  If the subject is too divisive, look for one side or other other to go start a new project called 'Rozeus' (with a pinkish-red frog, or whatever) to implement their vision of the next release.

For all it's "bloat" Azureus has pioneered extending the capability of the original BT protocol.  Such Examples are DHT (trackerless tracking, no tracker to attack or subpoena), Transport layer encryption (obscures traffic type from traffic shaping packages,  DHT scraping (how many seeders/leechers are REALLY on this torrent?), etc.

If you don't care for it or it doesn't function well on your machine, please stop using it, then please stop complaining.  There are plenty of other suitable alternatives.

--TurboGeek

PS:  Full Disclosure would dictate that I state that I'm an occasional contributor to the AZ QA Team.  I would still use AZ if this were the case or not.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Azureus is open source.  You can download the source code and all of the trimmings on Source Forge.</p>
<p>One person&#8217;s &#8220;feature laden&#8221; is another person&#8217;s &#8220;bloated.&#8221;</p>
<p>How many companies do NOT buy Microsoft Office because 95% of the their users don&#8217;t use 95% of the capabilities contained within it?</p>
<p>Know your way around code?  Stub out all the &#8216;bloat&#8217; you don&#8217;t want to deal with in Azureus.  Try asking Microsoft for the source for Office so you can do that so the IT Department you run only has to deploy 1500 machines with 512MB instead of 1GB of memory.</p>
<p>If you want a BT client with a small footprint and profile, Azureus would be your LAST choice.  Try mu-torrent instead.</p>
<p>Content Layer and DRM?  Look for the code to &#8216;branch&#8217;.  One code branch will have it, the other won&#8217;t.  Azureus is NOT just one person.  If the subject is too divisive, look for one side or other other to go start a new project called &#8216;Rozeus&#8217; (with a pinkish-red frog, or whatever) to implement their vision of the next release.</p>
<p>For all it&#8217;s &#8220;bloat&#8221; Azureus has pioneered extending the capability of the original BT protocol.  Such Examples are DHT (trackerless tracking, no tracker to attack or subpoena), Transport layer encryption (obscures traffic type from traffic shaping packages,  DHT scraping (how many seeders/leechers are REALLY on this torrent?), etc.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t care for it or it doesn&#8217;t function well on your machine, please stop using it, then please stop complaining.  There are plenty of other suitable alternatives.</p>
<p>&#8211;TurboGeek</p>
<p>PS:  Full Disclosure would dictate that I state that I&#8217;m an occasional contributor to the AZ QA Team.  I would still use AZ if this were the case or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8689#comment-39653</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 05:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8689#comment-39653</guid>
		<description>Azureus is slow and bloated. I prefer to use the original bittorrent python client. 

I'm also working on a bittorrent client of my own written in C, which will be open source. There is actually a lack of good open source C based bittorrent clients out there, don't get me wrong, python is ok, but, it's a scripting language after all, and, isn't as efficient as a well designed C program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Azureus is slow and bloated. I prefer to use the original bittorrent python client. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also working on a bittorrent client of my own written in C, which will be open source. There is actually a lack of good open source C based bittorrent clients out there, don&#8217;t get me wrong, python is ok, but, it&#8217;s a scripting language after all, and, isn&#8217;t as efficient as a well designed C program.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8689#comment-39632</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 00:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8689#comment-39632</guid>
		<description>Eventually all media players , .torrent and p2p will be controlled b y MAFIAA ,I guess it's back to being a oswellian 1984 state. *Sips tea*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eventually all media players , .torrent and p2p will be controlled b y MAFIAA ,I guess it&#8217;s back to being a oswellian 1984 state. *Sips tea*</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8689#comment-39620</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 22:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8689#comment-39620</guid>
		<description>UTorrent FTW!</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8689#comment-39616</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 22:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8689#comment-39616</guid>
		<description>Good ol' disk ripping for me. Outcome is DRM free.</description>
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