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	<title>Comments on: Warner Music in trouble</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-72529</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 13:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-72529</guid>
		<description>the Big Four can go suck on this:

http://www.boingboing.net/2004/03/29/empirical_data_on_fi.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the Big Four can go suck on this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2004/03/29/empirical_data_on_fi.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.boingboing.net/2004/03/29/empirical_data_on_fi.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40195</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 17:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40195</guid>
		<description>The scoop:

http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/?p=2734

Warner Music was purchased Time Warner in March 2004 for $2.6 billion.

EMI Group of Britain has recently offered to buy Warner Music for $4.2 billion. If the offer is taken it would mean a profit of $1.6 billion in about two years.

Is Warner Music a piracy ravaged company on the brink of collapse?
Of course not, business for the shareholders, who are in the investment business, not the music business, is greater than ever.

The piracy and loss figures are simply justification for stronger copyright laws so that the shareholders can make even more money.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The scoop:</p>
<p><a href="http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/?p=2734" rel="nofollow">http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/?p=2734</a></p>
<p>Warner Music was purchased Time Warner in March 2004 for $2.6 billion.</p>
<p>EMI Group of Britain has recently offered to buy Warner Music for $4.2 billion. If the offer is taken it would mean a profit of $1.6 billion in about two years.</p>
<p>Is Warner Music a piracy ravaged company on the brink of collapse?<br />
Of course not, business for the shareholders, who are in the investment business, not the music business, is greater than ever.</p>
<p>The piracy and loss figures are simply justification for stronger copyright laws so that the shareholders can make even more money.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40148</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 16:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40148</guid>
		<description>"We did it, but we're not sure if we'll get caught"

or 

We did it, but we're not sure if we'll get caught or if e can hire the lawyers that connect to and buy the judges".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We did it, but we&#8217;re not sure if we&#8217;ll get caught&#8221;</p>
<p>or </p>
<p>We did it, but we&#8217;re not sure if we&#8217;ll get caught or if e can hire the lawyers that connect to and buy the judges&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40146</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 15:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40146</guid>
		<description>"We did it, but we're not sure if we'll get caught".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We did it, but we&#8217;re not sure if we&#8217;ll get caught&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40133</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 17:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40133</guid>
		<description>99.9% of the time, corporations "don't comment on pending lawsuits". This is nothing but PR to make investors and bureaucrats think they are under frivolous assault. Poor Warner, let's all jump to their rescue...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>99.9% of the time, corporations &#8220;don&#8217;t comment on pending lawsuits&#8221;. This is nothing but PR to make investors and bureaucrats think they are under frivolous assault. Poor Warner, let&#8217;s all jump to their rescue&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40132</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 17:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40132</guid>
		<description>This story, a good one, shows how record companies give made up  numbers to their constituents, be it shareholders, artists, songwriters, legislators, etc.

Then how can their black room royalty payment calculations for artists and songwriters be trusted?

Beware artists. You may too be getting made up numbers from the record companies, be it Warner or the others.

Rafael Venegas
http://www.gvenegas.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story, a good one, shows how record companies give made up  numbers to their constituents, be it shareholders, artists, songwriters, legislators, etc.</p>
<p>Then how can their black room royalty payment calculations for artists and songwriters be trusted?</p>
<p>Beware artists. You may too be getting made up numbers from the record companies, be it Warner or the others.</p>
<p>Rafael Venegas<br />
<a href="http://www.gvenegas.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.gvenegas.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40130</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 14:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40130</guid>
		<description>P2PNet, when you do your homework, there are non better.  Great story!
Ken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P2PNet, when you do your homework, there are non better.  Great story!<br />
Ken</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40120</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 05:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40120</guid>
		<description>Jon has been using the term Organzied Music for quite a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon has been using the term Organzied Music for quite a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40119</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 05:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40119</guid>
		<description>Very good point. The RIAA/MPAA uses mass scale propaganda to create the impression that bootleg/sharing are infact being done by crime gangs and pedophiles, where in fact, it's just ordinary people fed up with the cartels overpriced material.

It's also ironic how they use the term 'organised crime'. They are pretty close to an organised crime gang, using: price fixing/intimidation/threats/bribes. They abuse the system(law/courts/politics) to get what they want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good point. The RIAA/MPAA uses mass scale propaganda to create the impression that bootleg/sharing are infact being done by crime gangs and pedophiles, where in fact, it&#8217;s just ordinary people fed up with the cartels overpriced material.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also ironic how they use the term &#8216;organised crime&#8217;. They are pretty close to an organised crime gang, using: price fixing/intimidation/threats/bribes. They abuse the system(law/courts/politics) to get what they want.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40117</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 05:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40117</guid>
		<description>"Normally you'd check the study, but in this case, the study can't be studied."

It is not a study to begin with. It is just a part of the massive PR confidence trick being perpetrated by the entertainment industry and software companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Normally you&#8217;d check the study, but in this case, the study can&#8217;t be studied.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is not a study to begin with. It is just a part of the massive PR confidence trick being perpetrated by the entertainment industry and software companies.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40116</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 05:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40116</guid>
		<description>Once again the old saw about bootleg dvds being sold by organised crime is recopied as we see above. What rubbish!

Organised crime sells a lot of drugs. Why? Because users cant get them anywhere else and they need a continuing supply. How much crack would a drug dealer sell if anybody with a cheap computer could duplicate the bag of crack for 22 cents. Yet thats what any buyer of a dvd can do.

How many bags of coke would a dealer sell if the going price were two dollars....the current price of burned cams and ts movies. Who do you know that is truly addicted to movies? A dvd may be "worth" 25 bucks to a movie company, but on the street its worth close to nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again the old saw about bootleg dvds being sold by organised crime is recopied as we see above. What rubbish!</p>
<p>Organised crime sells a lot of drugs. Why? Because users cant get them anywhere else and they need a continuing supply. How much crack would a drug dealer sell if anybody with a cheap computer could duplicate the bag of crack for 22 cents. Yet thats what any buyer of a dvd can do.</p>
<p>How many bags of coke would a dealer sell if the going price were two dollars&#8230;.the current price of burned cams and ts movies. Who do you know that is truly addicted to movies? A dvd may be &#8220;worth&#8221; 25 bucks to a movie company, but on the street its worth close to nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40115</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 04:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40115</guid>
		<description>Direct from the Wall Street Journal article:

"An additional $529 million in losses came from consumers making copies of legitimate films they bought on DVD or VHS."

This isn't piracy. It is called fair use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Direct from the Wall Street Journal article:</p>
<p>&#8220;An additional $529 million in losses came from consumers making copies of legitimate films they bought on DVD or VHS.&#8221;</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t piracy. It is called fair use.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40114</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 03:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40114</guid>
		<description>This is pre spin, next they go to the goverment to get new laws passed. Wolf they are crying wolf again.,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is pre spin, next they go to the goverment to get new laws passed. Wolf they are crying wolf again.,</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40113</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 03:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8710#comment-40113</guid>
		<description>What's outrageous is the mainstream puppets repeating this unverified data without access to the FULL "study". RIAA's Canadian arm CRIA published one of these complete surveys and, as was always suspected, online file sharing seems to benefit the bottom line:

http://michaelgeist.ca/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=1168

This is all about failure to adapt and loss of controll.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s outrageous is the mainstream puppets repeating this unverified data without access to the FULL &#8220;study&#8221;. RIAA&#8217;s Canadian arm CRIA published one of these complete surveys and, as was always suspected, online file sharing seems to benefit the bottom line:</p>
<p><a href="http://michaelgeist.ca/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=1168" rel="nofollow">http://michaelgeist.ca/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=1168</a></p>
<p>This is all about failure to adapt and loss of controll.</p>
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