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	<title>Comments on: Free speech in cyberspace</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8921/comment-page-1#comment-44609</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 20:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder, what about free speech at the bar. Anyone who has frequented bars will know what I am talking about:

a. Liquir looses the tongue and confuses the mind. Friendly, common, name calling and acusations become blurred. Because of the liquor many things are said that would otherwise be not said.

b. Those at the bar are likely from the neighborhood and know the neighbors. Acusation really hurt. Nasty things are said about those present and those not present that are personally known to those speaking and listening. 

Does anyone know of a case of a defamation lawsuit for what was said at a bar? Brawls yes, lawsuits no. 

Why is defamation at cyberspace important but no one gets sued for defaming at a bar?

Is it that there is a presumption of free speech at the bar or if one is under the influence of alcohol? Or it it that there is a presumption that cyberspace owners are moneyed?

Or it it because cyberpace is in writing and leaves a document trail and no witnesses are required? Yes, that it. Solution: make writing illegal. Go back to making your acusations and name calling at the bar and on the radio. The good old days when speech was speech and was thus free!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder, what about free speech at the bar. Anyone who has frequented bars will know what I am talking about:</p>
<p>a. Liquir looses the tongue and confuses the mind. Friendly, common, name calling and acusations become blurred. Because of the liquor many things are said that would otherwise be not said.</p>
<p>b. Those at the bar are likely from the neighborhood and know the neighbors. Acusation really hurt. Nasty things are said about those present and those not present that are personally known to those speaking and listening. </p>
<p>Does anyone know of a case of a defamation lawsuit for what was said at a bar? Brawls yes, lawsuits no. </p>
<p>Why is defamation at cyberspace important but no one gets sued for defaming at a bar?</p>
<p>Is it that there is a presumption of free speech at the bar or if one is under the influence of alcohol? Or it it that there is a presumption that cyberspace owners are moneyed?</p>
<p>Or it it because cyberpace is in writing and leaves a document trail and no witnesses are required? Yes, that it. Solution: make writing illegal. Go back to making your acusations and name calling at the bar and on the radio. The good old days when speech was speech and was thus free!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8921/comment-page-1#comment-44589</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 18:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup the trolls constant hate speech against this site is getting real
old. Now it&#039;s getting weird whent it answers itsellf trying to look like
different people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup the trolls constant hate speech against this site is getting real<br />
old. Now it&#8217;s getting weird whent it answers itsellf trying to look like<br />
different people.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8921/comment-page-1#comment-44125</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 01:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>most of us are getting really tired of you posting the same old junk over and over- don&#039;t you have anything better to do with your time. Looks like you are using this forum to continuously post your same response - take a break! HOG!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>most of us are getting really tired of you posting the same old junk over and over- don&#8217;t you have anything better to do with your time. Looks like you are using this forum to continuously post your same response &#8211; take a break! HOG!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8921/comment-page-1#comment-43969</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 19:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-= Disclaimer: This is just my opinion.  =-
- As such I&#039;m NOT suggesting any comment  -
- following this preface is true. In fact -
- I live in a fairy-tale and nothing I    -
-   say should be taken seriously.        -


Anyone who wants to know the situation can ... 

Start here .. 

http://s5.quicksharing.com/v/4797947/P2Pnetsuit.zip.html 

I checked this link out. 
It is a free file host site. 
The zip file contains a PDF of the court papers.
Next, 
Find the line items. 
They are NOT available on this site any more, but Google is 
magic, is it not ? 


-= This is a stock response to our pet troll =- 
-= Since it repeats the same drivel =- 
-= It deserves nothing more =- 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-= Disclaimer: This is just my opinion.  =-<br />
- As such I&#8217;m NOT suggesting any comment  -<br />
- following this preface is true. In fact -<br />
- I live in a fairy-tale and nothing I    -<br />
-   say should be taken seriously.        -</p>
<p>Anyone who wants to know the situation can &#8230; </p>
<p>Start here .. </p>
<p><a href="http://s5.quicksharing.com/v/4797947/P2Pnetsuit.zip.html" rel="nofollow">http://s5.quicksharing.com/v/4797947/P2Pnetsuit.zip.html</a> </p>
<p>I checked this link out.<br />
It is a free file host site.<br />
The zip file contains a PDF of the court papers.<br />
Next,<br />
Find the line items.<br />
They are NOT available on this site any more, but Google is<br />
magic, is it not ? </p>
<p>-= This is a stock response to our pet troll =-<br />
-= Since it repeats the same drivel =-<br />
-= It deserves nothing more =-</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8921/comment-page-1#comment-43968</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 19:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-= Disclaimer: This is just my opinion.  =-
- As such I&#039;m NOT suggesting any comment  -
- following this preface is true. In fact -
- I live in a fairy-tale and nothing I    -
-   say should be taken seriously.        -

 And wealthy coporations can use the threat of financial ruin to 
 force jon to remove speech that they don&#039;t like :)
 That&#039;s perfectly ok with you ?
 
Anyone who wants to know the situation can ... 

Start here .. 

http://s5.quicksharing.com/v/4797947/P2Pnetsuit.zip.html 

I checked this link out. 
It is a free file host site. 
The zip file contains a PDF of the court papers.
Next, 
Find the line items. 
They are NOT available on this site any more, but Google is 
magic, is it not ? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-= Disclaimer: This is just my opinion.  =-<br />
- As such I&#8217;m NOT suggesting any comment  -<br />
- following this preface is true. In fact -<br />
- I live in a fairy-tale and nothing I    -<br />
-   say should be taken seriously.        -</p>
<p> And wealthy coporations can use the threat of financial ruin to<br />
 force jon to remove speech that they don&#8217;t like <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
 That&#8217;s perfectly ok with you ?</p>
<p>Anyone who wants to know the situation can &#8230; </p>
<p>Start here .. </p>
<p><a href="http://s5.quicksharing.com/v/4797947/P2Pnetsuit.zip.html" rel="nofollow">http://s5.quicksharing.com/v/4797947/P2Pnetsuit.zip.html</a> </p>
<p>I checked this link out.<br />
It is a free file host site.<br />
The zip file contains a PDF of the court papers.<br />
Next,<br />
Find the line items.<br />
They are NOT available on this site any more, but Google is<br />
magic, is it not ?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8921/comment-page-1#comment-43788</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 14:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No way! The publisher of this site deletes posts he doesn&#039;t like? That means he only leaves up what he wants, that&#039;s way more than a content filter (even if you discount the fact the site belongs to him, is operated by him, he profits from it and all the other inconvenient contradictions)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No way! The publisher of this site deletes posts he doesn&#8217;t like? That means he only leaves up what he wants, that&#8217;s way more than a content filter (even if you discount the fact the site belongs to him, is operated by him, he profits from it and all the other inconvenient contradictions)</p>
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