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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8934/comment-page-1#comment-45391</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 23:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the mail I sent to Cap CR. Sorry for my bad English

Hello.

First of all, let me say that I am a musician. As a musician, I have seen with my own eyes the way that record labels STEAL from us, impose draconian conditions on us, squeze the shit out of us, actually keep more then 90% of the money they make from the sales, and keep the rights of the music that I HAVE WRITTEN AND RECORDED MYSELF.

Thus, I have not purchased a single song for years already, and I am always telling all my friends and family  to do the same. We musicians get the money from the gigs, not the record companies, so when I download my music and use the money saved to go to the gig I am making sure that the musician is getting what he/she should get from me for listening to his/her music.

Obviously I am explaining this to the kids, and I am also explaining them the way record labels LIE to them about copyrights and all that, using the tools provided to them by the government, who, as usual, cares about the rich folks, not normal citizens. Kids may be kids, but they are not stupid at all, do not underestimate them. They wonÂ´t get fooled by your stupid cartoon if an adult is around to tell them the TRUTH.

Thank God, now with technologies getting cheaper, many musicians are able to produce their stuff at home and distribute it for free over the internet. Soon all your efforts are going to be as laughable as Captain Copyright.

Finally, let me just say that there is now way you can stop this file sharing thing, not a single way, the same way many ppl keep smoking pot after so many years of prohibition, (as an example). Adapt to the new times or perish.

Yours, Dave.

Pd: Yes, I gave you my real name, and I wrote to you from my work mail so you can easily locate me.  I download music. So what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the mail I sent to Cap CR. Sorry for my bad English</p>
<p>Hello.</p>
<p>First of all, let me say that I am a musician. As a musician, I have seen with my own eyes the way that record labels STEAL from us, impose draconian conditions on us, squeze the shit out of us, actually keep more then 90% of the money they make from the sales, and keep the rights of the music that I HAVE WRITTEN AND RECORDED MYSELF.</p>
<p>Thus, I have not purchased a single song for years already, and I am always telling all my friends and family  to do the same. We musicians get the money from the gigs, not the record companies, so when I download my music and use the money saved to go to the gig I am making sure that the musician is getting what he/she should get from me for listening to his/her music.</p>
<p>Obviously I am explaining this to the kids, and I am also explaining them the way record labels LIE to them about copyrights and all that, using the tools provided to them by the government, who, as usual, cares about the rich folks, not normal citizens. Kids may be kids, but they are not stupid at all, do not underestimate them. They wonÂ´t get fooled by your stupid cartoon if an adult is around to tell them the TRUTH.</p>
<p>Thank God, now with technologies getting cheaper, many musicians are able to produce their stuff at home and distribute it for free over the internet. Soon all your efforts are going to be as laughable as Captain Copyright.</p>
<p>Finally, let me just say that there is now way you can stop this file sharing thing, not a single way, the same way many ppl keep smoking pot after so many years of prohibition, (as an example). Adapt to the new times or perish.</p>
<p>Yours, Dave.</p>
<p>Pd: Yes, I gave you my real name, and I wrote to you from my work mail so you can easily locate me.  I download music. So what?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8934/comment-page-1#comment-45222</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 03:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can barely follow that crap and i&#039;m over 40</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8934/comment-page-1#comment-44768</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 07:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh i misunderstood... sorry!

Yes, you are 100% right there. :)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh i misunderstood&#8230; sorry!</p>
<p>Yes, you are 100% right there. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8934/comment-page-1#comment-44765</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 07:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with that. but that&#039;s NOT what i&#039;m referring to.

i&#039;m talking about the classroom exercises detailed here:
http://p2pnet.net/story/8945

&quot;Activity Four, which provides a situational exercise, is designed to teach kids about the limits of copyright law. The kids are to be asked about a music download and the printing of a class exercise in a textbook.

Teachers are advised in the Line Master that &quot;a person can download a song off the Internet where they pay for it or get permission&quot; and &quot;a person cannot copy a song that they have legally downloaded for someone else.&quot; There is no mention of private copying which may cover the first example. In the second example, it is true that you cannot private copy for someone else, but that person can make their own private copy. The lesson continues by stating that &quot;permission is needed to reproduce all of the work that you have written.&quot; 

Activity Two seeks to build respect for the copyright symbol by asking the grade one students to role play by seeking copyright permission and to sell their copyright work. Activity Three asks the students to picture a world without copyright and to discuss whether their favourite book or song would still be created. Activity Six celebrates creativity by having the class create a group book with an additional page for the copyright notice. Activity Seven envisions grade one students creating their own copyright permission form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with that. but that&#8217;s NOT what i&#8217;m referring to.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m talking about the classroom exercises detailed here:<br />
<a href="http://p2pnet.net/story/8945" rel="nofollow">http://p2pnet.net/story/8945</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Activity Four, which provides a situational exercise, is designed to teach kids about the limits of copyright law. The kids are to be asked about a music download and the printing of a class exercise in a textbook.</p>
<p>Teachers are advised in the Line Master that &#8220;a person can download a song off the Internet where they pay for it or get permission&#8221; and &#8220;a person cannot copy a song that they have legally downloaded for someone else.&#8221; There is no mention of private copying which may cover the first example. In the second example, it is true that you cannot private copy for someone else, but that person can make their own private copy. The lesson continues by stating that &#8220;permission is needed to reproduce all of the work that you have written.&#8221; </p>
<p>Activity Two seeks to build respect for the copyright symbol by asking the grade one students to role play by seeking copyright permission and to sell their copyright work. Activity Three asks the students to picture a world without copyright and to discuss whether their favourite book or song would still be created. Activity Six celebrates creativity by having the class create a group book with an additional page for the copyright notice. Activity Seven envisions grade one students creating their own copyright permission form.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8934/comment-page-1#comment-44753</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 05:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Propaganda comic strips?
Propaganda stickers?
Propaganda discussions?
Propaganda coloring books?
Propaganda strips portraying copyright violators as vampires or werewolves (like nazi&#039;s were portraid during WW-II).
Capt&#039;n CR arresting music stealers?
...and so forth.

That crap sticks in a kids mind...

A little while ago i went to the war museum in Ottawa. They had an exhibit all about propaganda. How it works, the effects, the age brackets of target on and on... if anyone is in that area, Its a must see. Don&#039;t know if its an all summer long thing, or if its online at their web site... worth a look.

Then you will see how you can target kids even younger than 5.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Propaganda comic strips?<br />
Propaganda stickers?<br />
Propaganda discussions?<br />
Propaganda coloring books?<br />
Propaganda strips portraying copyright violators as vampires or werewolves (like nazi&#8217;s were portraid during WW-II).<br />
Capt&#8217;n CR arresting music stealers?<br />
&#8230;and so forth.</p>
<p>That crap sticks in a kids mind&#8230;</p>
<p>A little while ago i went to the war museum in Ottawa. They had an exhibit all about propaganda. How it works, the effects, the age brackets of target on and on&#8230; if anyone is in that area, Its a must see. Don&#8217;t know if its an all summer long thing, or if its online at their web site&#8230; worth a look.</p>
<p>Then you will see how you can target kids even younger than 5.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8934/comment-page-1#comment-44703</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 00:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would think this is the troll stirring it up again. Why post something like that in public and not an Email to jon? He is very reachable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think this is the troll stirring it up again. Why post something like that in public and not an Email to jon? He is very reachable.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8934/comment-page-1#comment-44697</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 00:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the troll stirring up more shit right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the troll stirring up more shit right?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8934/comment-page-1#comment-44694</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 00:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>read this:

http://www.cippic.ca/en/faqs-resources/online-anonymity/

if you are non-canadian, I don&#039;t know.

What was the nature of the request? they have to supplt this to you by law (in canada).

What should I do if I receive notice that my ISP has received a motion for a court order to disclose my personal information? What are my rights of action?
First you should decide whether you wish to fight to protect your identity, Internet usage records, or whatever else is being sought. You should ask your ISP for a copy of the motion if they haven&#039;t already provided one. If you decide to fight it, you should inform the ISP immediately and, if necessary, request that it ask the court to delay arguments on the motion in order to give you time to find a lawyer.

all on the above link.

This is a joke right??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>read this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cippic.ca/en/faqs-resources/online-anonymity/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cippic.ca/en/faqs-resources/online-anonymity/</a></p>
<p>if you are non-canadian, I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>What was the nature of the request? they have to supplt this to you by law (in canada).</p>
<p>What should I do if I receive notice that my ISP has received a motion for a court order to disclose my personal information? What are my rights of action?<br />
First you should decide whether you wish to fight to protect your identity, Internet usage records, or whatever else is being sought. You should ask your ISP for a copy of the motion if they haven&#8217;t already provided one. If you decide to fight it, you should inform the ISP immediately and, if necessary, request that it ask the court to delay arguments on the motion in order to give you time to find a lawyer.</p>
<p>all on the above link.</p>
<p>This is a joke right??</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8934/comment-page-1#comment-44689</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 00:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ive seen this guys posts a couple of times.</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8934/comment-page-1#comment-44684</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 23:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s all just use TOR and Privoxy from now on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s all just use TOR and Privoxy from now on!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8934/comment-page-1#comment-44673</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 23:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a funny idea, there&#039;s a handfull of &quot;coloring book&quot; illustrations on the &quot;Captain Contemptible&quot; web site that would be a great place to start for the Photoshop crowd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a funny idea, there&#8217;s a handfull of &#8220;coloring book&#8221; illustrations on the &#8220;Captain Contemptible&#8221; web site that would be a great place to start for the Photoshop crowd.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8934/comment-page-1#comment-44670</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 23:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We may as well have chalk-boards sponsored by pepsi-cola with big neon lights flashing drink pepsi in the class room too.&quot;

In a lot of US school districts it&#039;s just about that bad. Pepsico fast food franchises supplying branded &quot;food&quot; and of course, soft drinks in the lunchrooms. Logos &amp; high fructose corn syrup abound.

BTW, Pepsi no worse than the others, just an easy target. 


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We may as well have chalk-boards sponsored by pepsi-cola with big neon lights flashing drink pepsi in the class room too.&#8221;</p>
<p>In a lot of US school districts it&#8217;s just about that bad. Pepsico fast food franchises supplying branded &#8220;food&#8221; and of course, soft drinks in the lunchrooms. Logos &#038; high fructose corn syrup abound.</p>
<p>BTW, Pepsi no worse than the others, just an easy target.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8934/comment-page-1#comment-44658</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 22:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need a Captain P2P who does Captain Copyright&#039;s wife, while Captain CR&#039;s not home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need a Captain P2P who does Captain Copyright&#8217;s wife, while Captain CR&#8217;s not home.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8934/comment-page-1#comment-44657</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 22:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am very sad to read this,big mafia cartel are using are schools and  teachers to educate are children telling them to buy all of there CORPORATE CRAP because they need to have more of your money.....
See children,think for yourself.The only thing they want is your MONEYYYYYYYYY.

GO to H*ll CAPTAIN CRAP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am very sad to read this,big mafia cartel are using are schools and  teachers to educate are children telling them to buy all of there CORPORATE CRAP because they need to have more of your money&#8230;..<br />
See children,think for yourself.The only thing they want is your MONEYYYYYYYYY.</p>
<p>GO to H*ll CAPTAIN CRAP</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8934/comment-page-1#comment-44602</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 19:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just read this, err the kids thought it just naff. Alll did thought is got them nagging at me to start download that song they heared on radio.  Yes they forgot about this junky tune on radio untill they read that and then wanted to download it.

So that proves one thing they dont have clue, in fact they are promiting what they dont want to happen.  Kids of 10 are no as dum as they are!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read this, err the kids thought it just naff. Alll did thought is got them nagging at me to start download that song they heared on radio.  Yes they forgot about this junky tune on radio untill they read that and then wanted to download it.</p>
<p>So that proves one thing they dont have clue, in fact they are promiting what they dont want to happen.  Kids of 10 are no as dum as they are!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8934/comment-page-1#comment-44584</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 17:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well... IN a way I think its good to teach kids how to obtain permission of copyright material from an author of a magazine or the photographer of a picture etc. Its a good educational excersize. But for kids in high school. NOT for kids aged 5 to 12, this is absolutely ridiculus, Kids that age don&#039;t know right from wrong, they just &quot;do it&quot; regardless. 

Is Captain Copyright going to show them how illegal it is when the dentist gives them that coloring page of bugs bunny downloaded and printed from the internet?

We may as well have chalk-boards sponsored by pepsi-cola with big neon lights flashing drink pepsi in the class room too.

I see it as capitolizing on 6 year olds.

Anyhow i have to go now and print off that bugs bunny picture for my 6 yrs old. Or maybe i should start now and say Captain Copyright doesn&#039;t want me to print that stolen pic. She will see how villianous C.C. is after 2 refusals of bugs bunny and mickey mouse coloring pages.

Absolutely ridiculous.... it equates to nother other than propaganda aimed directly at young children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230; IN a way I think its good to teach kids how to obtain permission of copyright material from an author of a magazine or the photographer of a picture etc. Its a good educational excersize. But for kids in high school. NOT for kids aged 5 to 12, this is absolutely ridiculus, Kids that age don&#8217;t know right from wrong, they just &#8220;do it&#8221; regardless. </p>
<p>Is Captain Copyright going to show them how illegal it is when the dentist gives them that coloring page of bugs bunny downloaded and printed from the internet?</p>
<p>We may as well have chalk-boards sponsored by pepsi-cola with big neon lights flashing drink pepsi in the class room too.</p>
<p>I see it as capitolizing on 6 year olds.</p>
<p>Anyhow i have to go now and print off that bugs bunny picture for my 6 yrs old. Or maybe i should start now and say Captain Copyright doesn&#8217;t want me to print that stolen pic. She will see how villianous C.C. is after 2 refusals of bugs bunny and mickey mouse coloring pages.</p>
<p>Absolutely ridiculous&#8230;. it equates to nother other than propaganda aimed directly at young children.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8934/comment-page-1#comment-44463</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 12:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Captain  c*nt more like!</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8934/comment-page-1#comment-44330</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 08:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would personally like to say, &quot;Thank you Jon&quot; for removing the troll posts. I&#039;m a long term member here and enjoy both the site and it&#039;s contents. I&#039;ve nothing against constructive criticsim and respect that for the most part those with decent comments pro or con stand. 

The trolls posts&#039; were annoying. I haven&#039;t responded but to one of &quot;it&#039;s&quot; posts and with the note I would not again. I don&#039;t believe in feeding trolls. It&#039;s one thing to say don&#039;t feed them but somehow it seems that a lot of members just could not resist baiting and flaming. It takes way from the subject matter in discussion and is a large time waster with no way to filter them out prior to opening the post. 

Good riddence I say!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would personally like to say, &#8220;Thank you Jon&#8221; for removing the troll posts. I&#8217;m a long term member here and enjoy both the site and it&#8217;s contents. I&#8217;ve nothing against constructive criticsim and respect that for the most part those with decent comments pro or con stand. </p>
<p>The trolls posts&#8217; were annoying. I haven&#8217;t responded but to one of &#8220;it&#8217;s&#8221; posts and with the note I would not again. I don&#8217;t believe in feeding trolls. It&#8217;s one thing to say don&#8217;t feed them but somehow it seems that a lot of members just could not resist baiting and flaming. It takes way from the subject matter in discussion and is a large time waster with no way to filter them out prior to opening the post. </p>
<p>Good riddence I say!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8934/comment-page-1#comment-44306</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 06:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most kids would laugh at this when it comes to there school.  Just say no to drugs was a big failure (though a great idea and worthy cause)  So how sucessful does the entertainment mafia cartel think it&#039;ll be trying to convince the youngesters it&#039;s a no no.

Rick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most kids would laugh at this when it comes to there school.  Just say no to drugs was a big failure (though a great idea and worthy cause)  So how sucessful does the entertainment mafia cartel think it&#8217;ll be trying to convince the youngesters it&#8217;s a no no.</p>
<p>Rick</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8934/comment-page-1#comment-44296</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 06:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like there is a necessity of an &quot;anti-site&quot; that would explain how corporate propaganda works. Target audience - the same as the one targeted by captaincopyright or similar sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like there is a necessity of an &#8220;anti-site&#8221; that would explain how corporate propaganda works. Target audience &#8211; the same as the one targeted by captaincopyright or similar sites.</p>
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