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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8953#comment-45152</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 20:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unfortunately you haven't written the laws the govern society, corporations and out of touch people have done that. It's up to us, the regular plebes, to influence the process, have our voice heard and be recognized as a group who is no longer passive in it's subjugation by those who think they know best.  The very medium that has caused this upheaval in the status quo of consumerism is also the medium that facilitates our voices being heard and recognized.  That is also the reason why the corporations (and government(s) ie the US) are so desperatley trying to put the genie back in the bottle...their outlook is that the control they have enjoyed for so long, without challenge, is slipping from their grasp (watch a documentary called 'The Century of the Self' http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/531196/DOCUMENTARY_BBC_The_Century_of_the_Self_MUST_SEE or The Politics of Fear http://www.torrentspy.com/search.asp?h=A481236427624D34A01A1E07EE1C3415&#038;query=The+Politics+of+Fear&#038;submit.x=5&#038;submit.y=8).

Just look at the attempts to destroy net neutrality for a good example of how the internet and this medium of protest and communication is under assault.  To 'control' the internet and destroy its level-playing field by tipping the balance back to the 'elites' will produce a situation where dissension, whether political or consumer based (although after watching Century of the Self the line between the two is blurred or non-existent), is stifled and we'll all be worse off for it, but eventually through this 'restructuring' we'll never even know the difference or what we've been deprived of.  We will once again be the irrational subjects of a power structure who thinks they know best.

rant done
TT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unfortunately you haven&#8217;t written the laws the govern society, corporations and out of touch people have done that. It&#8217;s up to us, the regular plebes, to influence the process, have our voice heard and be recognized as a group who is no longer passive in it&#8217;s subjugation by those who think they know best.  The very medium that has caused this upheaval in the status quo of consumerism is also the medium that facilitates our voices being heard and recognized.  That is also the reason why the corporations (and government(s) ie the US) are so desperatley trying to put the genie back in the bottle&#8230;their outlook is that the control they have enjoyed for so long, without challenge, is slipping from their grasp (watch a documentary called &#8216;The Century of the Self&#8217; <a href="http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/531196/DOCUMENTARY_BBC_The_Century_of_the_Self_MUST_SEE" rel="nofollow">http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/531196/DOCUMENTARY_BBC_The_Century_of_the_Self_MUST_SEE</a> or The Politics of Fear <a href="http://www.torrentspy.com/search.asp?h=A481236427624D34A01A1E07EE1C3415&#038;query=The+Politics+of+Fear&#038;submit.x=5&#038;submit.y=8" rel="nofollow">http://www.torrentspy.com/search.asp?h=A481236427624D34A01A1E07EE1C3415&#038;query=The+Politics+of+Fear&#038;submit.x=5&#038;submit.y=8</a>).</p>
<p>Just look at the attempts to destroy net neutrality for a good example of how the internet and this medium of protest and communication is under assault.  To &#8216;control&#8217; the internet and destroy its level-playing field by tipping the balance back to the &#8216;elites&#8217; will produce a situation where dissension, whether political or consumer based (although after watching Century of the Self the line between the two is blurred or non-existent), is stifled and we&#8217;ll all be worse off for it, but eventually through this &#8216;restructuring&#8217; we&#8217;ll never even know the difference or what we&#8217;ve been deprived of.  We will once again be the irrational subjects of a power structure who thinks they know best.</p>
<p>rant done<br />
TT</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8953#comment-45149</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 18:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8953#comment-45149</guid>
		<description>-= Disclaimer: This is just my opinion.  =-
- As such I'm NOT suggesting any comment  -
- following this preface is true. In fact -
- I live in a fairy-tale and nothing I    -
-   say should be taken seriously.        -

 
 When something is "Stolen", someone is deprived of it.
 Example someone "Steals" my pencil, I no longer have it,
 I have been deprived of it's use. Televeision, Cable 
 programming is broadcast to many people, in many locations
 all at once, WITHOUT the original program being lost to the
 owner. VCR's STILL make copies of such programming, an act
 which has ALREADY been legal  for a VERY long time. a TiVO is
 very simply a VCR that uses a disk drive intead of a tape.
 Different form, same function, no theft. Fair use rights allow
 recording for personal use.
  Now, lets look at something else ....
 When broadcast Television was the only thing available, the
 ONLY thing customers paid for was a Television set. Why ??
 Broadcasters used commercials. Advertisers funded their
 endeavors. This worked out REALLY well for broadcasters AND
 customers. Then Cable TV came along. In theory, by PAYING for
 the privildge, you got COMMERCIAL FREE shows. HMM, there are
 a lot of commercials on cable TV now, aren't there ?
 Now, cable and sattellite not only get paid by consumers, but 
 get revenue through advertisers.  Double funding.
  AS far as the staff and employees go ...
 They are paid for their work. The broadcast gets aired 500 times
 but those involved in it's creation still get paid .. once.
 Actors may get rebroadcast and royalty rights, but the joe blows
 that do the grunt work don't, no matter how many times a
 show is broadcast. So, whether a show is copied via TiVo or
 broadcast 1000 times, those people never get another dime
 anyway. Yet, the Actors and the studios that hold the "rights"
 to the show get a piece of ALL those broadcasts. You, know,
 the folks that whine about going broke while driving their Lexus
 around.
  Tell me, who is stealing from whom ??
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-= Disclaimer: This is just my opinion.  =-<br />
- As such I&#8217;m NOT suggesting any comment  -<br />
- following this preface is true. In fact -<br />
- I live in a fairy-tale and nothing I    -<br />
-   say should be taken seriously.        -</p>
<p> When something is &#8220;Stolen&#8221;, someone is deprived of it.<br />
 Example someone &#8220;Steals&#8221; my pencil, I no longer have it,<br />
 I have been deprived of it&#8217;s use. Televeision, Cable<br />
 programming is broadcast to many people, in many locations<br />
 all at once, WITHOUT the original program being lost to the<br />
 owner. VCR&#8217;s STILL make copies of such programming, an act<br />
 which has ALREADY been legal  for a VERY long time. a TiVO is<br />
 very simply a VCR that uses a disk drive intead of a tape.<br />
 Different form, same function, no theft. Fair use rights allow<br />
 recording for personal use.<br />
  Now, lets look at something else &#8230;.<br />
 When broadcast Television was the only thing available, the<br />
 ONLY thing customers paid for was a Television set. Why ??<br />
 Broadcasters used commercials. Advertisers funded their<br />
 endeavors. This worked out REALLY well for broadcasters AND<br />
 customers. Then Cable TV came along. In theory, by PAYING for<br />
 the privildge, you got COMMERCIAL FREE shows. HMM, there are<br />
 a lot of commercials on cable TV now, aren&#8217;t there ?<br />
 Now, cable and sattellite not only get paid by consumers, but<br />
 get revenue through advertisers.  Double funding.<br />
  AS far as the staff and employees go &#8230;<br />
 They are paid for their work. The broadcast gets aired 500 times<br />
 but those involved in it&#8217;s creation still get paid .. once.<br />
 Actors may get rebroadcast and royalty rights, but the joe blows<br />
 that do the grunt work don&#8217;t, no matter how many times a<br />
 show is broadcast. So, whether a show is copied via TiVo or<br />
 broadcast 1000 times, those people never get another dime<br />
 anyway. Yet, the Actors and the studios that hold the &#8220;rights&#8221;<br />
 to the show get a piece of ALL those broadcasts. You, know,<br />
 the folks that whine about going broke while driving their Lexus<br />
 around.<br />
  Tell me, who is stealing from whom ??</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8953#comment-44961</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 05:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8953#comment-44961</guid>
		<description>dont steal programming</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dont steal programming</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8953#comment-44950</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 04:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8953#comment-44950</guid>
		<description>The "site" appears to be back up, BUT.... this writer has attempted, 3 different times to download 3 different torrent-files, and NONE were downloadable; 404's and all that sort of thing.

Imho, it would have been _far_-better had PirateBay held off for a little bit longer, to enable the downloading of its' torrent files.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;site&#8221; appears to be back up, BUT&#8230;. this writer has attempted, 3 different times to download 3 different torrent-files, and NONE were downloadable; 404&#8217;s and all that sort of thing.</p>
<p>Imho, it would have been _far_-better had PirateBay held off for a little bit longer, to enable the downloading of its&#8217; torrent files.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8953#comment-44943</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 04:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8953#comment-44943</guid>
		<description>if you look even closer at the legal threats section you will find most of thier responses are gone. they are replaced with a 404 error

"404 Not found"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you look even closer at the legal threats section you will find most of thier responses are gone. they are replaced with a 404 error</p>
<p>&#8220;404 Not found&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8953#comment-44911</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 20:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8953#comment-44911</guid>
		<description>From a brief inspection, it looks like most all the torrents and discussions and everything (including recently added stuff) is still there.  But their search engine is still down.

It gives the error message "no hits due to politics." But it looks like just about all the torrents are still there and you can find them if you use another search engine and add: site:thepiratebay.org

So just a minor inconvenience and they should have it running again soon if they got the site up this quickly :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a brief inspection, it looks like most all the torrents and discussions and everything (including recently added stuff) is still there.  But their search engine is still down.</p>
<p>It gives the error message &#8220;no hits due to politics.&#8221; But it looks like just about all the torrents are still there and you can find them if you use another search engine and add: site:thepiratebay.org</p>
<p>So just a minor inconvenience and they should have it running again soon if they got the site up this quickly <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8953#comment-44864</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 20:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8953#comment-44864</guid>
		<description>...that didn't take long!  nice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;that didn&#8217;t take long!  nice!</p>
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