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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9008/comment-page-1#comment-46681</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I guess we should bow down to all the stupid jerks who want to take away fair use! Get a life.... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I guess we should bow down to all the stupid jerks who want to take away fair use! Get a life&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9008/comment-page-1#comment-46652</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2006 03:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soundcards don&#039;t record anything.  They convert the digital representation of a sound into it&#039;s corresponding analog waveform (in amplitude and frequuency) so that it can be rendered on an analog device such as a speaker.  Analog devices are not addressable, they just spew out whatever they are fed.

Leave it to a bunch of lawyers who know bupkis about technology (even simple technology like analog audio) to come up with some totally unworkable, hair-brained, assinine scheme.

Trying to plug the so-called &quot;analog hole&quot; is a bit like attempting to have prevented the Titanic from sinking by patching it up with scotch tape and papier maché.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soundcards don&#8217;t record anything.  They convert the digital representation of a sound into it&#8217;s corresponding analog waveform (in amplitude and frequuency) so that it can be rendered on an analog device such as a speaker.  Analog devices are not addressable, they just spew out whatever they are fed.</p>
<p>Leave it to a bunch of lawyers who know bupkis about technology (even simple technology like analog audio) to come up with some totally unworkable, hair-brained, assinine scheme.</p>
<p>Trying to plug the so-called &#8220;analog hole&#8221; is a bit like attempting to have prevented the Titanic from sinking by patching it up with scotch tape and papier maché.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9008/comment-page-1#comment-45964</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 22:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They want to control your soundcard so it won&#039;r record anything containing their watermark.
They also would like to get a chip into every earphone/speaker that decodes a digital signal sent to the speakers, that way only the path betwee the chip and the actual physical speaker is where the analog signal exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They want to control your soundcard so it won&#8217;r record anything containing their watermark.<br />
They also would like to get a chip into every earphone/speaker that decodes a digital signal sent to the speakers, that way only the path betwee the chip and the actual physical speaker is where the analog signal exists.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9008/comment-page-1#comment-45940</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 20:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yo ho ho and a bottle of rum !!!!!!!





The opinions expressed in this message are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of P2Pnet

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yo ho ho and a bottle of rum !!!!!!!</p>
<p>The opinions expressed in this message are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of P2Pnet</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9008/comment-page-1#comment-45902</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 14:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>((As an American I feel I have to preface my posts like this now for a few legal reasons so: I do not condone using any media format for anything you dont have legal permission to do. Seek out your local laws before even thinking about trying anything you think I&#039;m suggesting in my comments. Ignore me, I live in a fairy-tale. It should also be said I dont rip music or movies but the average net user is decently aware of what I will mention below that seems to just be over the MPAA/RIAA&#039;s head so I try to mention it now and then. I buy movies, usually from walmart when they&#039;re in the $10 or less price range and I dont watch movies in the theater so in all likelyhood I&#039;m not your number one customer in the first place...  Oh and I haven&#039;t bought a music cd in roughly 8 years... I have a radio, until thats illegal too some day and that&#039;d good enough. So again, I dont do anything mentioned below if it could be taken in a questionable legal way! I walk the boring straight and narrow.))



lol, they must think dvd&#039;s are hard to rip...  They must think everyone is all on crack - There&#039;s dozens if not hundreds of programs out there for it...

*message to RIAA/MPAA - the media format isn&#039;t going to change how your customers want to use THEIR music/movies they buy and NO amount of DRM is going to stop anyone from being able to share the media! Please stop wasting money and your breath with DRM, its a lost cause.*

Look, music is going to go through &#039;wires&#039; to my speakers - I could play your uber-drm-protected music on your uber-drm-protected-only player and just route the speaker wires back to my pc&#039;s &#039;line-in&#039;, open sndrec32.exe and save to .wav files and convert to high quality mp3&#039;s and burn/share as I see fit and you only make the money in my direct purchase of your special player and music cd/dvd/rom/whatever... but again, there&#039;s no way to stop fair use.... heck, you could even require all speakers be bluetooth but then I&#039;ll crack open my speakers and take the wires off them internally and send that back to my pc anyway.. so really, again, there&#039;s NO BLOODY WAY to stop people being able to utilize fair use.

Think the same doesn&#039;t/cant apply to movies? WRONG! Am I going to be able to watch it at home? Oh, ok then...  So it&#039;s also going to eventually wind up on my screen - I could always place a camcorder in front of my home projection screen and record and share as I see fit as well.

Now - here&#039;s a suggestion you can do with as you will...

We are your damn customers - stop thinking you can treat us like crap, give us crappy infected music cd&#039;s, crappy drm-infected movies, and shoddy music/movies that dont sell so you want to blame someone other than your lowsy talentless-scouts for your 100-million dollar glorified b flick or brainless music from a girl who cant put two words together better than a child and dont understand why she&#039;s not selling platinum records....

....the suggestion I mentioned?..  Run your own p2p - push focused advertising, run surveys, sell tickets to concerts, sell your stuff etc...  again, we&#039;re your customers and you keep presuming none of us have any money just because we want to listen to music and watch movies our friends recommend, before we buy them...  if you were to offer a p2p service where people could go without fear you would not only have direct marketing information - how many files are really downloaded/shared instead of what BSA type groups tell you as they bump up the numbers where they see fit...    A ton of directions - other p2p applications could easily be modified to include your advertising to make them &#039;legal&#039; to use as well..   I mean, hello, you haven&#039;t even really been trying to use the options in front of you.

Anyway, thats enough of a rant for one day... (especially since its about 2am and I know my typing is getting worse lol)

Just my 10 cents.
_-Jile-_</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>((As an American I feel I have to preface my posts like this now for a few legal reasons so: I do not condone using any media format for anything you dont have legal permission to do. Seek out your local laws before even thinking about trying anything you think I&#8217;m suggesting in my comments. Ignore me, I live in a fairy-tale. It should also be said I dont rip music or movies but the average net user is decently aware of what I will mention below that seems to just be over the MPAA/RIAA&#8217;s head so I try to mention it now and then. I buy movies, usually from walmart when they&#8217;re in the $10 or less price range and I dont watch movies in the theater so in all likelyhood I&#8217;m not your number one customer in the first place&#8230;  Oh and I haven&#8217;t bought a music cd in roughly 8 years&#8230; I have a radio, until thats illegal too some day and that&#8217;d good enough. So again, I dont do anything mentioned below if it could be taken in a questionable legal way! I walk the boring straight and narrow.))</p>
<p>lol, they must think dvd&#8217;s are hard to rip&#8230;  They must think everyone is all on crack &#8211; There&#8217;s dozens if not hundreds of programs out there for it&#8230;</p>
<p>*message to RIAA/MPAA &#8211; the media format isn&#8217;t going to change how your customers want to use THEIR music/movies they buy and NO amount of DRM is going to stop anyone from being able to share the media! Please stop wasting money and your breath with DRM, its a lost cause.*</p>
<p>Look, music is going to go through &#8216;wires&#8217; to my speakers &#8211; I could play your uber-drm-protected music on your uber-drm-protected-only player and just route the speaker wires back to my pc&#8217;s &#8216;line-in&#8217;, open sndrec32.exe and save to .wav files and convert to high quality mp3&#8217;s and burn/share as I see fit and you only make the money in my direct purchase of your special player and music cd/dvd/rom/whatever&#8230; but again, there&#8217;s no way to stop fair use&#8230;. heck, you could even require all speakers be bluetooth but then I&#8217;ll crack open my speakers and take the wires off them internally and send that back to my pc anyway.. so really, again, there&#8217;s NO BLOODY WAY to stop people being able to utilize fair use.</p>
<p>Think the same doesn&#8217;t/cant apply to movies? WRONG! Am I going to be able to watch it at home? Oh, ok then&#8230;  So it&#8217;s also going to eventually wind up on my screen &#8211; I could always place a camcorder in front of my home projection screen and record and share as I see fit as well.</p>
<p>Now &#8211; here&#8217;s a suggestion you can do with as you will&#8230;</p>
<p>We are your damn customers &#8211; stop thinking you can treat us like crap, give us crappy infected music cd&#8217;s, crappy drm-infected movies, and shoddy music/movies that dont sell so you want to blame someone other than your lowsy talentless-scouts for your 100-million dollar glorified b flick or brainless music from a girl who cant put two words together better than a child and dont understand why she&#8217;s not selling platinum records&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;.the suggestion I mentioned?..  Run your own p2p &#8211; push focused advertising, run surveys, sell tickets to concerts, sell your stuff etc&#8230;  again, we&#8217;re your customers and you keep presuming none of us have any money just because we want to listen to music and watch movies our friends recommend, before we buy them&#8230;  if you were to offer a p2p service where people could go without fear you would not only have direct marketing information &#8211; how many files are really downloaded/shared instead of what BSA type groups tell you as they bump up the numbers where they see fit&#8230;    A ton of directions &#8211; other p2p applications could easily be modified to include your advertising to make them &#8216;legal&#8217; to use as well..   I mean, hello, you haven&#8217;t even really been trying to use the options in front of you.</p>
<p>Anyway, thats enough of a rant for one day&#8230; (especially since its about 2am and I know my typing is getting worse lol)</p>
<p>Just my 10 cents.<br />
_-Jile-_</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9008/comment-page-1#comment-45901</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 14:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>congrats. when everyones broke and theres no more good movies/music/apps to download... know that you fucked up everything for everyone. =]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>congrats. when everyones broke and theres no more good movies/music/apps to download&#8230; know that you fucked up everything for everyone. =]</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9008/comment-page-1#comment-45900</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another troll post :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another troll post <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9008/comment-page-1#comment-45894</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 12:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoever posted the above is looking to fit you up with malware. Notice the mispelling of google. It&#039;s a very common way to get victims through near spelling mistakes. I wouldn&#039;t go near one of those links if you paid me, certainly not the one about the toolbar. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever posted the above is looking to fit you up with malware. Notice the mispelling of google. It&#8217;s a very common way to get victims through near spelling mistakes. I wouldn&#8217;t go near one of those links if you paid me, certainly not the one about the toolbar.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9008/comment-page-1#comment-45827</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 07:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoever posted the previous post is just plain weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever posted the previous post is just plain weird.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9008/comment-page-1#comment-45809</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 05:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CDs are BAD now? I thought CDs were supposed to be great &#039;cause they meant you had to go buy all your old records again on a new format.

(Oh yeah, and audio DVDs are going to be SOOOO secure too). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CDs are BAD now? I thought CDs were supposed to be great &#8217;cause they meant you had to go buy all your old records again on a new format.</p>
<p>(Oh yeah, and audio DVDs are going to be SOOOO secure too).</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 01:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;formats like CDs that give little guarantee that artists will ever be paid&quot;

If this guy can be believed as a company executive, he just helped Downhill Battle&#039;s argument by admission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;formats like CDs that give little guarantee that artists will ever be paid&#8221;</p>
<p>If this guy can be believed as a company executive, he just helped Downhill Battle&#8217;s argument by admission.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9008/comment-page-1#comment-45743</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 00:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Until we get enough devices into the marketplace that support security - like DVD audio players - and begin to get away from formats like CDs that give little guarantee that artists will ever be paid, it is going to be a difficult transition&quot;

- I think he ment until the big four are gone we have little guarantee that artists will ever receive what is owed to them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Until we get enough devices into the marketplace that support security &#8211; like DVD audio players &#8211; and begin to get away from formats like CDs that give little guarantee that artists will ever be paid, it is going to be a difficult transition&#8221;</p>
<p>- I think he ment until the big four are gone we have little guarantee that artists will ever receive what is owed to them</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9008/comment-page-1#comment-45737</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;does not believe the music industry is winning the battle against pirating, in any palpable way&quot;

After which, aside from flailing/tilting at figurative windmills, we know what will (probably) happen.

More Gooberment regulation!


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;does not believe the music industry is winning the battle against pirating, in any palpable way&#8221;</p>
<p>After which, aside from flailing/tilting at figurative windmills, we know what will (probably) happen.</p>
<p>More Gooberment regulation!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The headline is a warm fuzzy, but the rest of the article is a pretty grim read. It would appear that the media cabal&#039;s knee-jerk reaction to their inability to stem &quot;copyright infringment&quot; is to adopt an even more extreme total lock-down mentality where all consumers are considered hostile enemies and treated as such.

Maybe it&#039;s a good thing. If they limit the usability of their &quot;product&quot; so much that avarage Joe cannot do the things they rightfully expect to them maybe the public will wake up and stop supporting these leaches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The headline is a warm fuzzy, but the rest of the article is a pretty grim read. It would appear that the media cabal&#8217;s knee-jerk reaction to their inability to stem &#8220;copyright infringment&#8221; is to adopt an even more extreme total lock-down mentality where all consumers are considered hostile enemies and treated as such.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s a good thing. If they limit the usability of their &#8220;product&#8221; so much that avarage Joe cannot do the things they rightfully expect to them maybe the public will wake up and stop supporting these leaches.</p>
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