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	<title>Comments on: Tech firms protest &#8216;extreme&#8217; copyright</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9148/comment-page-1#comment-54245</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 03:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over the last couple years watching the DRM and other security systems being implimented I think I&#039;ve discovered 1 thing... there is no one single copyright packaging or system which can be implimented beyond a simple model like this: setting a Universal accessible medium(s) containing the uncompressed, unencrypted, unaltered source (or in the case of audio raw digital version of mastered content), which A. does not create any proprietary structures or have requiste any specific tools beyond a generic accessible and FREE (where software is involved) medium interface. and B. does not hinder or impede conversion of that content to another packaging media/medium for personal use in whole or part, reverse engineering for research and security purposes, or interfere with usage/transportation upon multiple systems. Only in that kind of context should copyright really be controlled and licenced, and that way the end user has control as to how the software interact w/ their computer (be it through code optimization settings on a compiler of their choice) or through exclusions of unwanted sub sections. And in the case of music the consumer can listen to/manipulate/use the music, and through their personal rights convert and utilize that audio for their own non commercial activities, without entrapment within a specific tool environment. 

In theory copyright on software and music should technically only be upon source code and raw forms not on any end packaging mediums and with digital purchasing of software it needs to be understood by the big copyrighting corporations that nothing &#039;structurally&#039; has changed since the early 1900s with the first commercial records, simply the volume and transit medium has, its still the music being sold not the package, thats an incidental.

After all, back in the 80s wouldn&#039;t people have gone haywire if the latest tape by XXXXXX was ONLY usable in 1 specific tape player made by XXXX which could not be used on even another of that same brand/model player or in any other player? And what if that 1 specific player was lost/damaged/stolen, then what? You&#039;ve got a tape of some audio (the content not the package is of interest afterall) that you now must RE-purchase just for the sake of continued usage, and in some cases a whole new player as well... Proprietary systems are not the way to go, consumer society learned that one already!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the last couple years watching the DRM and other security systems being implimented I think I&#8217;ve discovered 1 thing&#8230; there is no one single copyright packaging or system which can be implimented beyond a simple model like this: setting a Universal accessible medium(s) containing the uncompressed, unencrypted, unaltered source (or in the case of audio raw digital version of mastered content), which A. does not create any proprietary structures or have requiste any specific tools beyond a generic accessible and FREE (where software is involved) medium interface. and B. does not hinder or impede conversion of that content to another packaging media/medium for personal use in whole or part, reverse engineering for research and security purposes, or interfere with usage/transportation upon multiple systems. Only in that kind of context should copyright really be controlled and licenced, and that way the end user has control as to how the software interact w/ their computer (be it through code optimization settings on a compiler of their choice) or through exclusions of unwanted sub sections. And in the case of music the consumer can listen to/manipulate/use the music, and through their personal rights convert and utilize that audio for their own non commercial activities, without entrapment within a specific tool environment. </p>
<p>In theory copyright on software and music should technically only be upon source code and raw forms not on any end packaging mediums and with digital purchasing of software it needs to be understood by the big copyrighting corporations that nothing &#8217;structurally&#8217; has changed since the early 1900s with the first commercial records, simply the volume and transit medium has, its still the music being sold not the package, thats an incidental.</p>
<p>After all, back in the 80s wouldn&#8217;t people have gone haywire if the latest tape by XXXXXX was ONLY usable in 1 specific tape player made by XXXX which could not be used on even another of that same brand/model player or in any other player? And what if that 1 specific player was lost/damaged/stolen, then what? You&#8217;ve got a tape of some audio (the content not the package is of interest afterall) that you now must RE-purchase just for the sake of continued usage, and in some cases a whole new player as well&#8230; Proprietary systems are not the way to go, consumer society learned that one already!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9148/comment-page-1#comment-51124</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 17:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Republicans and democrats ...

 Two sides of the SAME coin.

 They both serve the exact same corporate interests.

 The only provide the ILLUSION of choice.

 We&#039;re just to thick to admit it to ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republicans and democrats &#8230;</p>
<p> Two sides of the SAME coin.</p>
<p> They both serve the exact same corporate interests.</p>
<p> The only provide the ILLUSION of choice.</p>
<p> We&#8217;re just to thick to admit it to ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9148/comment-page-1#comment-50863</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now wait just a second, who passed the DMCA? Who&#039;s head of DoJ is on a cabal with entertainment industry executives? Who is threatening foreign and sovereign countries who are not in line with draconian IP policies? The Bush Administration and their Republican control of Congress.

Now, I&#039;m not saying Dems are snow white. But there&#039;s a Republican intent to please corporations at all costs and to the detriment of electors using any evil measures at their disposal. It&#039;s so obvious one wonders what ever happened to covert ops in America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now wait just a second, who passed the DMCA? Who&#8217;s head of DoJ is on a cabal with entertainment industry executives? Who is threatening foreign and sovereign countries who are not in line with draconian IP policies? The Bush Administration and their Republican control of Congress.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m not saying Dems are snow white. But there&#8217;s a Republican intent to please corporations at all costs and to the detriment of electors using any evil measures at their disposal. It&#8217;s so obvious one wonders what ever happened to covert ops in America.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9148/comment-page-1#comment-50643</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 03:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I very much agree except for one small point. Political graft is a non-partisan issue. The repubs are in the driver&#039;s seat now. Even if that changes (I hope) the power and influence of a legislative and policy system grossly corrupted by special interest money will continue.

Just an observation from a patrotic US citizen who loves his country and deeply mistrusts and bitterly resents the power structure that is ruining it.

I will grant you this much. The current administration does seem to be much worse than anything we have seen in quite a while... Pure evil. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I very much agree except for one small point. Political graft is a non-partisan issue. The repubs are in the driver&#8217;s seat now. Even if that changes (I hope) the power and influence of a legislative and policy system grossly corrupted by special interest money will continue.</p>
<p>Just an observation from a patrotic US citizen who loves his country and deeply mistrusts and bitterly resents the power structure that is ruining it.</p>
<p>I will grant you this much. The current administration does seem to be much worse than anything we have seen in quite a while&#8230; Pure evil.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9148/comment-page-1#comment-50633</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 01:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is fabulous, congratulations to all members! Pretty soon there will be no excuse for Canadian government to implement draconian demands from American lobby and their puppet Rupublicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is fabulous, congratulations to all members! Pretty soon there will be no excuse for Canadian government to implement draconian demands from American lobby and their puppet Rupublicans.</p>
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