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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9171/comment-page-1#comment-53236</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 09:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, all this crap has been going on since before Rome.  Technology changes, context changes, but the story remains the same.  Give the ones in power an inch, and they will try to take you a mile.  NYT treasonous for excercising their 1st ammendment right to freedom of the press?  I don&#039;t think so.

I say let them try.  The courts will toss the case out on it&#039;s ear, and if what they did was illegal, then they will send the specific law packing as well.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, all this crap has been going on since before Rome.  Technology changes, context changes, but the story remains the same.  Give the ones in power an inch, and they will try to take you a mile.  NYT treasonous for excercising their 1st ammendment right to freedom of the press?  I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>I say let them try.  The courts will toss the case out on it&#8217;s ear, and if what they did was illegal, then they will send the specific law packing as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9171/comment-page-1#comment-52393</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t particularly like the surveillance and data mining the fed feels is required to ostensibly thwart terrorism. I&#039;m sure a good portion of it is necessary. I do however take great exeption to it being done without judicial oversight or keeping key members of the legislative branch informed. If these programs need to be kept secret from the public to be effective so be it. There is NO GOOD REASON WHATSOEVER for these programs to be conducted with inadequate or worse yet NO oversight. NONE. All one has to do is look at history to know that ripe, low hanging fruit WILL be picked. It&#039;s just too tempting. It&#039;s not like human nature has all of the sudden changed...  

P.S. Your naivetÃ© is alarming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t particularly like the surveillance and data mining the fed feels is required to ostensibly thwart terrorism. I&#8217;m sure a good portion of it is necessary. I do however take great exeption to it being done without judicial oversight or keeping key members of the legislative branch informed. If these programs need to be kept secret from the public to be effective so be it. There is NO GOOD REASON WHATSOEVER for these programs to be conducted with inadequate or worse yet NO oversight. NONE. All one has to do is look at history to know that ripe, low hanging fruit WILL be picked. It&#8217;s just too tempting. It&#8217;s not like human nature has all of the sudden changed&#8230;  </p>
<p>P.S. Your naivetÃ© is alarming.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9171/comment-page-1#comment-52349</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy crap!  The world is ending!  Run for your lives!

Having a power to do something is very different from abusing that power.  There is only a story here if the government uses its wiretapping and financial tracking for a purpose other than thwarting terrorists.  So far, I haven&#039;t heard anything like that, and you can be sure if it happened the media would jump all over it.  And if that abuse occurred, I&#039;d be all for impeachment and grand juries and prison and the hangman for the offenders.

And since the citizens of the USA can vote their leaders (who are subject to many checks and balances), since the economy of the USA is quite free of governmental control, and since any administration&#039;s opponents are free to speak and write their dissent however they choose, the USA cannot and never will be fascist.

1) Fix your vocabulary.
2) Learn how to be cogent.
3) Take your alarmism elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy crap!  The world is ending!  Run for your lives!</p>
<p>Having a power to do something is very different from abusing that power.  There is only a story here if the government uses its wiretapping and financial tracking for a purpose other than thwarting terrorists.  So far, I haven&#8217;t heard anything like that, and you can be sure if it happened the media would jump all over it.  And if that abuse occurred, I&#8217;d be all for impeachment and grand juries and prison and the hangman for the offenders.</p>
<p>And since the citizens of the USA can vote their leaders (who are subject to many checks and balances), since the economy of the USA is quite free of governmental control, and since any administration&#8217;s opponents are free to speak and write their dissent however they choose, the USA cannot and never will be fascist.</p>
<p>1) Fix your vocabulary.<br />
2) Learn how to be cogent.<br />
3) Take your alarmism elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The USA is no longer capitalist or democratic. 

It&#039;s now fascist. Fascism will destroy it from within, no need for any terrorists now. The people will cheer their country right down the drain. Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The USA is no longer capitalist or democratic. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s now fascist. Fascism will destroy it from within, no need for any terrorists now. The people will cheer their country right down the drain. Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9171/comment-page-1#comment-51861</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me, or does all this warrantless mass data mining and profiling of individuals boil your blood to?

Maybe the NYT is better off headquartered in Canada, out of their Gov&#039;s reach for reporting what people have a right to know what their own country is doing. 

In one hand - treasonous criminal actions for informing the public of their right to know.

In the other hand it would be (if they were HQ&#039;d in Canada) Libelous actions.

Guess free speech in either country isn&#039;t so free. :/

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me, or does all this warrantless mass data mining and profiling of individuals boil your blood to?</p>
<p>Maybe the NYT is better off headquartered in Canada, out of their Gov&#8217;s reach for reporting what people have a right to know what their own country is doing. </p>
<p>In one hand &#8211; treasonous criminal actions for informing the public of their right to know.</p>
<p>In the other hand it would be (if they were HQ&#8217;d in Canada) Libelous actions.</p>
<p>Guess free speech in either country isn&#8217;t so free. :/</p>
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