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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 07:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just a few steps away from the internet and your electronic communications being on the same par as with China&#039;s methods. 

The first step is the monitoring of communications. Next comes the idea that someone doesn&#039;t like what is happening with a few &quot;radicals&quot; that disagree with the overviewer&#039;s stance on politics or some other ideology such as religion or the like. That follows by attempts to block that particular behavior or source of information. One follows the next just like a chain of logic. 

We are already far off the beaten path of democracy. As has already been mentioned, it&#039;s no longer for the people, by the people. The only time the politicans make lip service to that is election time and after that period has passed they are too good to talk with the &quot;unwashed masses&quot; that put them in office. 

We honestly need a house cleaning in Washington. Every politician in office needs to go that can&#039;t support limited terms, responsible bill making with the public in mind, and the elimination of special interest groups for lobbying. Those in office now, can&#039;t get on the subject of running the country for playing politics. Rome is burning while the political body listens to the sound of violins playing, uncaring for the welfare of the nation and it&#039;s citzens. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just a few steps away from the internet and your electronic communications being on the same par as with China&#8217;s methods. </p>
<p>The first step is the monitoring of communications. Next comes the idea that someone doesn&#8217;t like what is happening with a few &#8220;radicals&#8221; that disagree with the overviewer&#8217;s stance on politics or some other ideology such as religion or the like. That follows by attempts to block that particular behavior or source of information. One follows the next just like a chain of logic. </p>
<p>We are already far off the beaten path of democracy. As has already been mentioned, it&#8217;s no longer for the people, by the people. The only time the politicans make lip service to that is election time and after that period has passed they are too good to talk with the &#8220;unwashed masses&#8221; that put them in office. </p>
<p>We honestly need a house cleaning in Washington. Every politician in office needs to go that can&#8217;t support limited terms, responsible bill making with the public in mind, and the elimination of special interest groups for lobbying. Those in office now, can&#8217;t get on the subject of running the country for playing politics. Rome is burning while the political body listens to the sound of violins playing, uncaring for the welfare of the nation and it&#8217;s citzens.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9391/comment-page-1#comment-66687</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 05:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;TALKBACK: ATTORNEY GENERAL: BUSH BLOCKED REVIEW OF SPY PROGRAM
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defend freedom, get rid of warrantless spying!
Reader post by: chris_d  
Posted on: July 19, 2006, 1:46 PM PDT
Story: Attorney general: Bush blocked review of spy program
I have yet to see any evidence that this program makes anyone more secure. I HAVE seen evidence of it being used against reporters and whistle-blowers. In addition, Bush claims 9/11 as his excuse for anything and everything. The class-action lawsuit against AT&amp;T has uncovered the fact that the program was set up months before 9/11/2001.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&amp;sid=abIV0cO64zJE&amp;refer=#

This implies either:
A. Bush knew of the impending attack. And then of course he did nothing to stop it.
B. It has nothing to do with protecting America from attack.

I&#039;ve also been told by neo-cons that if you&#039;re &quot;not doing anything wrong&quot; you have nothing to worry about. These same people also tell everyone that if you demand that anyone in the administration be held accountable for anything, you are a treasonous traitor and should be dealt with accordingly. They&#039;re already screaming mad about freedom of the press. Why not just set up a Ministry Of Information?

So as long as you agree with the administration, you&#039;re safe. If you exercise free speech, the FBI will be on you like Bill Clinton on an overweight intern.

Regarding the fascism comments, I encourage everyone to research Michael Ledeen. He&#039;s advised the current administration. His studies and the books he&#039;s written are worth a look. Here&#039;s a starting point:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ledeen

By the way, don&#039;t call me a liberal. You neo-cons call everyone who doesn&#039;t agree with you a liberal, as if it&#039;s a cuss word. I happen to be a gun shooting, abortion hating, big government despising, well, I guess conservative. NOT a Republican. Of course Bush is no conservative. He spends like a drunken sailor. He makes Clinton look like more of a penny-pincher than my grandma. 

I&#039;d like to invite all you neo-cons to move to North Korea. There, everyone supports the leader. Why? Because all the ones who didn&#039;t have been shot. Let us Americans have the freedom of speech, the freedom of the press, and all the other freedoms that our founders fought for.

I don&#039;t know if you realize it, but when you have a leader who makes his own laws:

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04/30/bush_challenges_hundreds_of_laws/

Who can interpret the Constitution... who can do everything in secret, who can imprison AMERICANS indefinitely without charging them, without letting them have their day in court, you are, by definition of the word, living in a dictatorship.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dictatorship &quot;

URL of this post: http://news.com.com/5208-1028-0.html?forumID=1&amp;threadID=19411&amp;messageID=166417&amp;start=-131

Sorry if there are broken links. Just copy and paste them in your browser to get one hell of an education STARTED.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;TALKBACK: ATTORNEY GENERAL: BUSH BLOCKED REVIEW OF SPY PROGRAM<br />
&lt; Previous comment<br />
Comment 61 of 67<br />
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defend freedom, get rid of warrantless spying!<br />
Reader post by: chris_d<br />
Posted on: July 19, 2006, 1:46 PM PDT<br />
Story: Attorney general: Bush blocked review of spy program<br />
I have yet to see any evidence that this program makes anyone more secure. I HAVE seen evidence of it being used against reporters and whistle-blowers. In addition, Bush claims 9/11 as his excuse for anything and everything. The class-action lawsuit against AT&#038;T has uncovered the fact that the program was set up months before 9/11/2001.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&#038;sid=abIV0cO64zJE&#038;refer=#" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&#038;sid=abIV0cO64zJE&#038;refer=#</a></p>
<p>This implies either:<br />
A. Bush knew of the impending attack. And then of course he did nothing to stop it.<br />
B. It has nothing to do with protecting America from attack.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also been told by neo-cons that if you&#8217;re &#8220;not doing anything wrong&#8221; you have nothing to worry about. These same people also tell everyone that if you demand that anyone in the administration be held accountable for anything, you are a treasonous traitor and should be dealt with accordingly. They&#8217;re already screaming mad about freedom of the press. Why not just set up a Ministry Of Information?</p>
<p>So as long as you agree with the administration, you&#8217;re safe. If you exercise free speech, the FBI will be on you like Bill Clinton on an overweight intern.</p>
<p>Regarding the fascism comments, I encourage everyone to research Michael Ledeen. He&#8217;s advised the current administration. His studies and the books he&#8217;s written are worth a look. Here&#8217;s a starting point:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ledeen" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ledeen</a></p>
<p>By the way, don&#8217;t call me a liberal. You neo-cons call everyone who doesn&#8217;t agree with you a liberal, as if it&#8217;s a cuss word. I happen to be a gun shooting, abortion hating, big government despising, well, I guess conservative. NOT a Republican. Of course Bush is no conservative. He spends like a drunken sailor. He makes Clinton look like more of a penny-pincher than my grandma. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to invite all you neo-cons to move to North Korea. There, everyone supports the leader. Why? Because all the ones who didn&#8217;t have been shot. Let us Americans have the freedom of speech, the freedom of the press, and all the other freedoms that our founders fought for.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you realize it, but when you have a leader who makes his own laws:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04/30/bush_challenges_hundreds_of_laws/" rel="nofollow">http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04/30/bush_challenges_hundreds_of_laws/</a></p>
<p>Who can interpret the Constitution&#8230; who can do everything in secret, who can imprison AMERICANS indefinitely without charging them, without letting them have their day in court, you are, by definition of the word, living in a dictatorship.<br />
<a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dictatorship" rel="nofollow">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dictatorship</a> &#8221;</p>
<p>URL of this post: <a href="http://news.com.com/5208-1028-0.html?forumID=1&#038;threadID=19411&#038;messageID=166417&#038;start=-131" rel="nofollow">http://news.com.com/5208-1028-0.html?forumID=1&#038;threadID=19411&#038;messageID=166417&#038;start=-131</a></p>
<p>Sorry if there are broken links. Just copy and paste them in your browser to get one hell of an education STARTED.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9391/comment-page-1#comment-66668</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bush administration is controling what information is flowing so that the bits and bytes about B &amp; C&#039;s involvement in pre war activities is picked up by them first and not exposed to the tax payer citizen.

Bush was going to go to war during the Utah Olympics because that is what he said to the mother of the athilete who&#039;s phone was passed to him. Woops!

It was reported she said to this mother &quot;he has to go he has a war to fight.&quot; 

Oh really. Why? Why then? Was it all planned? Now to get a grip on information about the administration&#039;s plot. Banggo tap the telco&#039;s data and automate tapping. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bush administration is controling what information is flowing so that the bits and bytes about B &#038; C&#8217;s involvement in pre war activities is picked up by them first and not exposed to the tax payer citizen.</p>
<p>Bush was going to go to war during the Utah Olympics because that is what he said to the mother of the athilete who&#8217;s phone was passed to him. Woops!</p>
<p>It was reported she said to this mother &#8220;he has to go he has a war to fight.&#8221; </p>
<p>Oh really. Why? Why then? Was it all planned? Now to get a grip on information about the administration&#8217;s plot. Banggo tap the telco&#8217;s data and automate tapping.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9391/comment-page-1#comment-66643</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 01:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US has been totally messed up. I wonder when it will fall like the
once so big Soviet Union...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US has been totally messed up. I wonder when it will fall like the<br />
once so big Soviet Union&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9391/comment-page-1#comment-66573</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 19:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t the former &amp; late President Nixon pull something similar along these lines? As I recall (dim memories), he dismissed a special prosecutor. Of course, the U.S. was not then in a time of &quot;&#039;National&#039; &#039;Emergency&#039;&quot; &lt;snicker&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t the former &#038; late President Nixon pull something similar along these lines? As I recall (dim memories), he dismissed a special prosecutor. Of course, the U.S. was not then in a time of &#8220;&#8216;National&#8217; &#8216;Emergency&#8217;&#8221; &lt;snicker&gt;.</p>
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