You may try and point out that i’m some noob user. This is not correct. I am a software developer that does work on both linux and windows, so i have quite a bit of knowledge about the inner workings of these systems, as well as things like ActiveX interfaces and such. This however doesn’t prevent websites taking advantage of the weak activex security in IE. It’s not sandboxed, it’s wide open to attack. This is partly due to the fact activex is such a powerful interface.

The truth is, all things like activex and java are sources of security problems. The difference in windows is that usually you do everything as root(admin in windoze speak), and this allows malicious code to do all manner of system wide activities.

So you can argue about exploits all you want, but you have to remember most of these are difficult to implement and rely on a number of factors. The real exploits are in activex/java, others are simply background noise.

It’s all about choice, and M$ is determined to give you none.

Ye right. We all know M$ loves to abuse it’s position and preference it’s own software. Wouldn’t suprise me if the default options are to set IE7 as the default browser.

Hell, we all know what they did and are still doing regarding bundling of the browser with the OS, which was deemed illegal. They also intend on muscling google out of the search business by setting their default browser with their default search engine (msn). M$ has a vision, and it’s entirely about single point of entry/control/lockin to their/and/or partners products.

i am not going to spam my software right here in front of everyone unless jon OK’s it.

i dont have any more to prove. i proved my point already about firefox and IE vulnerabilities.

Vista=EVIL.

and i’m batman.

The point is, anonymously you can say you are whoever
you want.
What software company ?
What software do you develop ?

I’ll bet it competes with Firefox

ill have to try the win.ini registry issue.

the notepad thing…… that isn’t necessarily a bug as more of a design limitation (at that time). Microsoft, in all their glory, probably never thought a plain text file could reach more then 64kb.

depending on who you ask, some may say its a bug.

::looks at win.ini::

ive used IE consistantly since it was first developed into Windows and yes i have FF on my machine but only for testing .

IE7 is promising and please dont think im putting down FF at all. I just don’t think people without any real knowledge on the matter should open their mouths.

sorry Jon, i absolutely appreciate everything you do but your IE ranting is a bit unnecessary.

you forgot Xbox360

i discover exploits for a living, as well as founder and ceo of a software developing company that sells millions each year.

yes, microsoft may take longer to patch but the vulnerabilities that have come up in firefox have been extremely hostile. microsoft takes forever to patch anything but they also have a huge demand on their shoulders compared to …. mozilla.

keep in mind also that just because it isn’t in the news, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. in fact we had discovered a vulnerability in firefox (prior to their last update) that was left unpatched through 3 releases….. meanwhile no one knew about it except i’m sure a few hackers.

look over this list and look at how many critical updates they have had.. and you say they aren’t critical.

do your friggin homework or dont post

here’s a short list… i recommend to visit the link though
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vulnerabilities.html

MFSA 2006-37 Remote compromise via content-defined setter on object prototypes

MFSA 2006-44 Code execution through deleted frame reference

MFSA 2006-51 Privilege escalation using named-functions and redefined “new Object()”

MFSA 2006-47 Native DOM methods can be hijacked across domains

MFSA 2006-37 Remote compromise via content-defined setter on object prototypes

What I find most annoying is 3 things:

1. When someone says something like “OMG FF pwns IE cos it duz”
2. When someone says IE is bug ridden and full of virus’
3. When people attack others for using IE (or vice versa)

With IE7 (which I’ve now been using for near 4 months) I’ve had very few problems in beta 1, 2 or 3. With the addition of tabbed browsing (which FF did not invent) and RSS (which wasn’t stolen from FF) AND a much cleaner GUI, I think MS have finally listened to what people want.

On XP it looks and feels great, with fantastic speed (if it’s slow it’s something on your comp, not the program, because mine’s even faster than IE6 and FF). On Vista it looks incredible!

And the added search box is a great use of space. Alot more room for the page, less taken up with half arsed graphics saying “stop” and “refresh” or “Click me to win $$$$$”

Every program has bugs. The two exceptions probably being Notepad or Calculator.

However, as good as it is, 5 years for anything dramatically changing. Funny how they decide to do it when a new OS is coming out eh?

Though to be fair, look at what they have done in the last year. Windows Live brand, Office 2007, IE7, Windows live messenger, Windows Vista. That’s quite a bit to do in the space of a year, and they;re known for it. release a ton of stuff with a new OS, give lots and lots of updates for half a decade, then bring on the new OS and new look programs.

The same formula. It worked with XP, will it work with Vista?

Sadly, I’m not so sure…
huds601

i use internet explorer every day and unless your a freaking moron, or you visit malicious sites all day.. such as.. porn or “crack” sites you are not going to be any safer with firefox then IE.

come on.. someone bring some actual statistical data in here

i use internet explorer every day and unless your a freaking moron, or you visit malicious sites all day.. such as.. porn or “crack” sites you are not going to be any safer with firefox then IE.

come on.. someone bring some actual statistical data in here