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I believe it is important for people to separate the two. Whether or not you believe in fully anonymous speech or not you should still support the call bring defamation law in line with all other laws which presume a defendant is innocent until there is proof that they wronged someone or broke the law.

Some example letters from the forum:

http://www.cluecan.ca/pipermail/discuss/2006-August/000726.html
http://www.cluecan.ca/pipermail/discuss/2006-August/000733.html
http://www.cluecan.ca/pipermail/discuss/2006-August/000736.html
http://www.cluecan.ca/pipermail/discuss/2006-August/000737.html

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9492#comment-77022 Reader's Write Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:10:06 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9492#comment-77022 "Jon, If you believe in free speech why randomly select posts from posters and delete them at later dates. Surely this is obvious that when there is a post that may comment on your sponsors (read: supposed ad\\\'s) they seem to miraculously dissapear! How does this help the cause for free speech! " Hi. As someone who is here everyday, several times a day I can state that the missing posts are, in fact, spam link posts. Garbage. I think you know that because you are the one posting them, so that they will be deleted, so you can make an issue out of it. You must be that jerk people are calling gachnar. If the only life you have is to hate a website, you should probably just jump off a bridge, “Jon,
If you believe in free speech why randomly select posts from posters and delete them at later dates. Surely this is obvious that when there is a post that may comment on your sponsors (read: supposed ad\\\’s) they seem to miraculously dissapear! How does this help the cause for free speech! ”

Hi.
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out of it. You must be that jerk people are calling gachnar.
If the only life you have is to hate a website, you should probably
just jump off a bridge,

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9492#comment-75142 Reader's Write Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:17:32 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9492#comment-75142 I made a reply to the gachner reply as well, and i'm not gachner.. actually I'm the one who Emailed about 20-lawyers and rights groups... (jon may know who I am By name... and its not gachner) I too think the post of calling sumone a child molester and crack addict is a little..hmmm... "off", and childish (my opinion). But if my opinion of disagreeing with a post about someone sleeping with kids and doing crack is going to get me called a troll, not much I can say... each to their own... Maybe you can start a different web site for the people who wants to discuss crack addicts and people sleeping with kids. Or i can just stick to reading website articles and user comments more to my taste. whatever floats your boat... But your boat has a slow leak. I made a reply to the gachner reply as well, and i’m not gachner.. actually I’m the one who Emailed about 20-lawyers and rights groups… (jon may know who I am By name… and its not gachner)

I too think the post of calling sumone a child molester and crack addict is a little..hmmm… “off”, and childish (my opinion). But if my opinion of disagreeing with a post about someone sleeping with kids and doing crack is going to get me called a troll, not much I can say… each to their own… Maybe you can start a different web site for the people who wants to discuss crack addicts and people sleeping with kids. Or i can just stick to reading website articles and user comments more to my taste.

whatever floats your boat… But your boat has a slow leak.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9492#comment-74935 Reader's Write Thu, 03 Aug 2006 04:27:37 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9492#comment-74935 a) who's Gachnar? b) I swear it wasnt him/her - it was I: I just think its time to exercise a little self control and focus on helping Jon rather than deliberately making things worse. Just my opinion. a) who’s Gachnar?
b) I swear it wasnt him/her - it was I: I just think its time to exercise a little self control and focus on helping Jon rather than deliberately making things worse. Just my opinion.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9492#comment-74880 Reader's Write Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:10:41 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9492#comment-74880 I still see you I still see you

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9492#comment-74837 Reader's Write Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:46:37 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9492#comment-74837 I have to kinda agree.. well said. I have to kinda agree.. well said.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9492#comment-74656 Reader's Write Wed, 02 Aug 2006 08:34:27 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9492#comment-74656 The article was well written. "Under current Canadian law, intermediaries can face potential liability for failing to remove allegedly defamatory content once they receive notification of such a claim, even without court oversight." This doesn't sound right to me. Usually people are only required to respond to court orders. Canada is a nation of laws so I would assume that it would take a court order. Regardless p2pnet.net is hosted in America, so that means that there's no need for the webhoster to worry. The article was well written.

“Under current Canadian law, intermediaries can face potential liability for failing to remove allegedly defamatory content once they receive notification of such a claim, even without court oversight.”

This doesn’t sound right to me. Usually people are only required to respond to court orders. Canada is a nation of laws so I would assume that it would take a court order.

Regardless p2pnet.net is hosted in America, so that means that there’s no need for the webhoster to worry.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9492#comment-74523 Reader's Write Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:10:33 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9492#comment-74523 nice try nikki! you want to raise another case with this post by yourself? Thats clever! This way you can stay in the press. nice try nikki!

you want to raise another case with this post by yourself?
Thats clever!
This way you can stay in the press.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9492#comment-74522 Reader's Write Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:10:12 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9492#comment-74522 ummm he is a she... I think, hard to tell from the pics... ummm he is a she… I think, hard to tell from the pics…

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9492#comment-74385 Reader's Write Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:22:18 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9492#comment-74385 The P2PNet ISP is in America, as far as I know. The P2PNet ISP is in America, as far as I know.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9492#comment-74335 Reader's Write Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:35:25 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9492#comment-74335 I'm surprised to see that the ISP is not helping you cover cost for this.. It actually seems in their best interest to be involved and something done with these out-dated laws. A shadowy side figure... kinda like kaza is with hemming I’m surprised to see that the ISP is not helping you cover cost for this.. It actually seems in their best interest to be involved and something done with these out-dated laws.

A shadowy side figure… kinda like kaza is with hemming

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