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	<title>Comments on: Sweden Pirate Party&#8217;s Relakks</title>
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		<title>By: abacus</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 11:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>***URGENT RELAKKS WARNING! - PLEASE READ ON***

Well, I&#039;d been using relakks for the past few months, on a monthly subscription and found it a  relatively fair value service.

Yes; the connection would drop intermittently and sometimes I&#039;d not be able to connect for a few hours, but then for 5 euros a month, there wasn&#039;t much to grumble about.

So I decided, after renewing a few times, that I was happy enough to pay for a full years&#039; subscription - WHAT A MISTAKE!

About a week after renewing; I developed a problem - a few minutes after connecting; utorrent would GRIND TO A HALT! so would my HTTP connection, with any attempt to browse to a new connection resulting in a &#039;Connection Interrupted&#039; error message in my web browser - I can&#039;t even surf the net through relakks now!

It&#039;s funny, but when I had issues trying to pay for my subscription; I got a reply within a week.  When I mailed them about my connection problems - NO REPLY!. I emailed them AGAIN, but have still had NO REPLY IN OVER THREE WEEKS!

THEY&#039;VE TAKEN MY MONEY AND RAN!

I now have a service that I PAID 50 EUROS for and CANNOT USE AT ALL. Worse still; they are offering NO SUPPORT WHATSOEVER.


I have a sneaky suspicion that my ISP may be severing or THROTTLING all connections to the Relakks server.  If this is correct, no wonder the Relakks staff are keeping their heads in the sand; they&#039;d LOSE A HUGE CHUNK OF THEIR CUSTOMER BASE by admitting to the problem. Virtually ALL EUROPEAN ISPs may now be, or could soon be BLOCKING RELAKKS! rendering their service COMPLETELY USELESS!


REALLY GUYS. DON&#039;T WASTE YOUR MONEY ON AN INSECURE (PPTP) SERVICE WHICH WILL LIKELY SOON BE UNUSABLE TO ANYONE!  THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER PROVIDERS OUT THERE OFFERING MORE SECURE SSL VPN THROUGH OPENVPN - AT LESS COST!</description>
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<p>Well, I&#8217;d been using relakks for the past few months, on a monthly subscription and found it a  relatively fair value service.</p>
<p>Yes; the connection would drop intermittently and sometimes I&#8217;d not be able to connect for a few hours, but then for 5 euros a month, there wasn&#8217;t much to grumble about.</p>
<p>So I decided, after renewing a few times, that I was happy enough to pay for a full years&#8217; subscription &#8211; WHAT A MISTAKE!</p>
<p>About a week after renewing; I developed a problem &#8211; a few minutes after connecting; utorrent would GRIND TO A HALT! so would my HTTP connection, with any attempt to browse to a new connection resulting in a &#8216;Connection Interrupted&#8217; error message in my web browser &#8211; I can&#8217;t even surf the net through relakks now!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny, but when I had issues trying to pay for my subscription; I got a reply within a week.  When I mailed them about my connection problems &#8211; NO REPLY!. I emailed them AGAIN, but have still had NO REPLY IN OVER THREE WEEKS!</p>
<p>THEY&#8217;VE TAKEN MY MONEY AND RAN!</p>
<p>I now have a service that I PAID 50 EUROS for and CANNOT USE AT ALL. Worse still; they are offering NO SUPPORT WHATSOEVER.</p>
<p>I have a sneaky suspicion that my ISP may be severing or THROTTLING all connections to the Relakks server.  If this is correct, no wonder the Relakks staff are keeping their heads in the sand; they&#8217;d LOSE A HUGE CHUNK OF THEIR CUSTOMER BASE by admitting to the problem. Virtually ALL EUROPEAN ISPs may now be, or could soon be BLOCKING RELAKKS! rendering their service COMPLETELY USELESS!</p>
<p>REALLY GUYS. DON&#8217;T WASTE YOUR MONEY ON AN INSECURE (PPTP) SERVICE WHICH WILL LIKELY SOON BE UNUSABLE TO ANYONE!  THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER PROVIDERS OUT THERE OFFERING MORE SECURE SSL VPN THROUGH OPENVPN &#8211; AT LESS COST!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9586/comment-page-1#comment-117144</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 23:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; The problem is that since Relakks knows who I really am, and that any outgoing connections from them are unencrypted, I really do have something to fear.. Relakks. What is the difference between trusting them and trusting my own ISP not to give me away?

That Relakks is run by foreign nationals, following Sweedish and International law.  Based on the political history of the area, it would be safer to assume it is much more difficult for the FBI to subpoena the records of said foreign country than say the american-based ISP down the street.

5 euros a month may not be too high a price to put a little extra red tape between yourself and them so long as the internet isn&#039;t predominantly relayed by blind type routing methods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; The problem is that since Relakks knows who I really am, and that any outgoing connections from them are unencrypted, I really do have something to fear.. Relakks. What is the difference between trusting them and trusting my own ISP not to give me away?</p>
<p>That Relakks is run by foreign nationals, following Sweedish and International law.  Based on the political history of the area, it would be safer to assume it is much more difficult for the FBI to subpoena the records of said foreign country than say the american-based ISP down the street.</p>
<p>5 euros a month may not be too high a price to put a little extra red tape between yourself and them so long as the internet isn&#8217;t predominantly relayed by blind type routing methods.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9586/comment-page-1#comment-111373</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can one be &#039;anonymous&#039; if one has to pay for the service - Credit Cards leave a wide open trail</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can one be &#8216;anonymous&#8217; if one has to pay for the service &#8211; Credit Cards leave a wide open trail</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9586/comment-page-1#comment-105403</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 01:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, to begin with, the Pirate Party has not launched this service. It was launched some time ago by a company formed by a Jonas Birgersson, one of the major players in the .com revolution of the late 90&#039;s in Sweden. The news is that Piratpartiet now, to some degree, cooperate with Relakks, which happens to be the name of the company.

Mathias, Piracy Unlimited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, to begin with, the Pirate Party has not launched this service. It was launched some time ago by a company formed by a Jonas Birgersson, one of the major players in the .com revolution of the late 90&#8217;s in Sweden. The news is that Piratpartiet now, to some degree, cooperate with Relakks, which happens to be the name of the company.</p>
<p>Mathias, Piracy Unlimited.</p>
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