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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/974/comment-page-1#comment-827</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2004 23:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You asked a very good question. (&quot;How do you expect the CRIAA (or any other __AA) will be able to talk to the parties involved, without filing a lawsuit...?&quot;) The answer is a lot simpler than the CRIA (or any other __AA) apparently want you to know... 

The 1998 Digital Millenium Copyright Act, which was primarily written by lobbyists for the recording and movie industries, defines infringement, and spells out the remedies for copyright owners who believe their copyrights are being infringed.  This includes the procedure for notifying the ISP (or operators of college campus or corporate networks) to have them put a stop to the infringement without violating anyone&#039;s privacy rights.  If the infringement continues, the copyright owner can then take further legal measures, which are also spelled out under the law.  The law also provides protections to ISPs as long as they carry out their obligations under the DMCA.

As bad a law as the DMCA is, it does spell out what is expected of the parties involved, and what is required in order to prove infringement.  By circumventing these provisions of the DMCA, a law they practically dictated verbatim to the legislators who enacted it only a few years before, the RIAA has opted for vigilante justice and trial by media circus over the rule of law and the right to due process.  I&#039;ve always thought our neighbors to the north had more common sense than we often exhibit in the USA, but from what I&#039;ve been reading, the CRIA seems to be headed in the same dangerous direction.  I don&#039;t know what the Canadian copyright laws are, but if the CRIA imitates the behavior of the RIAA, it doesn&#039;t matter what those laws are; the CRIA will make up whatever excuses they need to.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You asked a very good question. (&#8221;How do you expect the CRIAA (or any other __AA) will be able to talk to the parties involved, without filing a lawsuit&#8230;?&#8221;) The answer is a lot simpler than the CRIA (or any other __AA) apparently want you to know&#8230; </p>
<p>The 1998 Digital Millenium Copyright Act, which was primarily written by lobbyists for the recording and movie industries, defines infringement, and spells out the remedies for copyright owners who believe their copyrights are being infringed.  This includes the procedure for notifying the ISP (or operators of college campus or corporate networks) to have them put a stop to the infringement without violating anyone&#8217;s privacy rights.  If the infringement continues, the copyright owner can then take further legal measures, which are also spelled out under the law.  The law also provides protections to ISPs as long as they carry out their obligations under the DMCA.</p>
<p>As bad a law as the DMCA is, it does spell out what is expected of the parties involved, and what is required in order to prove infringement.  By circumventing these provisions of the DMCA, a law they practically dictated verbatim to the legislators who enacted it only a few years before, the RIAA has opted for vigilante justice and trial by media circus over the rule of law and the right to due process.  I&#8217;ve always thought our neighbors to the north had more common sense than we often exhibit in the USA, but from what I&#8217;ve been reading, the CRIA seems to be headed in the same dangerous direction.  I don&#8217;t know what the Canadian copyright laws are, but if the CRIA imitates the behavior of the RIAA, it doesn&#8217;t matter what those laws are; the CRIA will make up whatever excuses they need to.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/974/comment-page-1#comment-822</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2004 05:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you expect the CRIAA (or any other __AA) will be able to talk to the parties involved, without filing a lawsuit and then using the subpoena power to obtain the name/address/phone number of the ISP&#039;s subscriber, from the ISP (who won&#039;t, post-Verizon in the US, and I don&#039;t know about Canadian law but I expect it&#039;s similar, release that information without a subpoena, which can only be obtained by ... filing the lawsuit ...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you expect the CRIAA (or any other __AA) will be able to talk to the parties involved, without filing a lawsuit and then using the subpoena power to obtain the name/address/phone number of the ISP&#8217;s subscriber, from the ISP (who won&#8217;t, post-Verizon in the US, and I don&#8217;t know about Canadian law but I expect it&#8217;s similar, release that information without a subpoena, which can only be obtained by &#8230; filing the lawsuit &#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/974/comment-page-1#comment-798</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2004 18:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi read your story...sad we have come to this in this day and age...but i feel no pity for the industry or artists at all..anytime u shove a video in my face with such excessive,flagrant,and shove it in your face crap,cars ,money ,gold,broads,and all else..i say u have enif cash in the bank baby...record companys have always been excessive in promoting thier clients and will continue to do so.it sells,and so does the hype regarding sharing,if it can make a buck,,lets do it....wish u all the best and good luck,as for me ..ill continue to download....ty </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi read your story&#8230;sad we have come to this in this day and age&#8230;but i feel no pity for the industry or artists at all..anytime u shove a video in my face with such excessive,flagrant,and shove it in your face crap,cars ,money ,gold,broads,and all else..i say u have enif cash in the bank baby&#8230;record companys have always been excessive in promoting thier clients and will continue to do so.it sells,and so does the hype regarding sharing,if it can make a buck,,lets do it&#8230;.wish u all the best and good luck,as for me ..ill continue to download&#8230;.ty</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/974/comment-page-1#comment-797</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2004 09:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope the justice system here in Canada reads your letter and looks deeper into the isue than in the USA. Like you say if they wanted you to stop file swapping they could have warned you. This is a new area for law and warnings should always be first. They do not care about you or your children only the point they want to make. I bet if Kazza ask it&#039;s users for donations we could fight these gangsters. You sound like a good father.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the justice system here in Canada reads your letter and looks deeper into the isue than in the USA. Like you say if they wanted you to stop file swapping they could have warned you. This is a new area for law and warnings should always be first. They do not care about you or your children only the point they want to make. I bet if Kazza ask it&#8217;s users for donations we could fight these gangsters. You sound like a good father.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/974/comment-page-1#comment-793</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2004 04:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel your pain being presumed guilty before proven innocent.  As p2p.net has stated on the bottom it is permissable to use their stories as long as a person links to the original story as I always do.  I did an editorial on slyck.com to increase the scope to show your message and agree with your stance to the bullying.

Andy, a personal message. Please pay close attn to the mother who is suing the RIAA under the RICO Act.  It might give you  more options.


ln_solitude</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel your pain being presumed guilty before proven innocent.  As p2p.net has stated on the bottom it is permissable to use their stories as long as a person links to the original story as I always do.  I did an editorial on slyck.com to increase the scope to show your message and agree with your stance to the bullying.</p>
<p>Andy, a personal message. Please pay close attn to the mother who is suing the RIAA under the RICO Act.  It might give you  more options.</p>
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